how to make transdermal testosterone?

Damn man all this caused by testosterone? All this applies to injectable also ?
I'm using testing for years and I have noticed I'm less social boring conversations monotonous tone bored all the time etc.
I drop testosterone from time to time to feel good and I've noticed without testo im way more social I can talk again while on test I don't talk that much. If I'm not on test I'm way more social athletic have good mood but my libido is ZERO.
I actually cut cold turkey yesterday, testosterone and even DHEA are destroying my ability to relax too much and I regularly have sleepless nights because of it. For the moment I feel good, my testicles are sometimes a little painful and they have regained a little volume + a bag shape.
 
I actually cut cold turkey yesterday, testosterone and even DHEA are destroying my ability to relax too much and I regularly have sleepless nights because of it. For the moment I feel good, my testicles are sometimes a little painful and they have regained a little volume + a bag shape.
I was wondering if the negative effects of test could be mitigated by lower dose. But on the other hand Im not sure if you would be even able to notice a low dose (for example 25 to 50 mg).
 
Damn man all this caused by testosterone? All this applies to injectable also ?
I'm using testing for years and I have noticed I'm less social boring conversations monotonous tone bored all the time etc.
I drop testosterone from time to time to feel good and I've noticed without testo im way more social I can talk again while on test I don't talk that much. If I'm not on test I'm way more social athletic have good mood but my libido is ZERO.

Switch over to transdermal DHEA.
You will regain the social abilities while having libido.
 
I actually cut cold turkey yesterday, testosterone and even DHEA are destroying my ability to relax too much and I regularly have sleepless nights because of it. For the moment I feel good, my testicles are sometimes a little painful and they have regained a little volume + a bag shape.

Have you tried transdermal DHEA on its own ?
It seems to give me abilities in all areas without excess stimulation.
 
I was wondering if the negative effects of test could be mitigated by lower dose. But on the other hand Im not sure if you would be even able to notice a low dose (for example 25 to 50 mg).
I am not hypogonadal so the only goal I have in taking testosterone was to improve my physique (so a big cure). But I actually feel better without any product. I haven't been taking anything since just the day before yesterday and I think I've already largely regained normal testosterone levels, I feel confident, my muscles are swollen and I want to listen to rap lol. I'll just do a blood test in 2 weeks to be sure. My goal is to return to at least 600ng/dl.

Have you tried transdermal DHEA on its own ?
It seems to give me abilities in all areas without excess stimulation.

Yes, but it was actually worse for me. I find it easier to relax on DHEA at night than on testosterone, feels much less "wired", but sleep is still hard to come by and actually very light, I fall asleep at 3am morning (hopefully) with lots of REM sleep where it's actually hard to tell if you're dreaming or imagining.

The other reason is that it's quite annoying to apply a solution every day. I feel more free now.
 
@Goingstronger

Have you done a DHEA blood test? I have no confidence in its ability to convert to "strong" androgens like testosterone or DHT.
I currently feel much more androgenic having just quit cold turkey.
I was almost asexual on DHEA and now my gaze is literally sucked into the asses of girls coming to college lmao.
 
I am not hypogonadal so the only goal I have in taking testosterone was to improve my physique (so a big cure). But I actually feel better without any product. I haven't been taking anything since just the day before yesterday and I think I've already largely regained normal testosterone levels, I feel confident, my muscles are swollen and I want to listen to rap lol. I'll just do a blood test in 2 weeks to be sure. My goal is to return to at least 600ng/dl.
My main goal was also improving physique without the sides effects from injections. I hope we will be able to come with some way to achieve the goal without risking the sides.
 
Do you think that the problems of low testo after treatment come from the toxicity of the steroids used on the Leydig cells and/or the pituitary gland?
Whenever I see people complaining of low testosterone (and therefore depression, erectile dysfunction...) persisting after treatment, these are strange steroids and/or known to be very strong.
Are there any studies on this?
 
Do you think that the problems of low testo after treatment come from the toxicity of the steroids used on the Leydig cells and/or the pituitary gland?
Whenever I see people complaining of low testosterone (and therefore depression, erectile dysfunction...) persisting after treatment, these are strange steroids and/or known to be very strong.
Are there any studies on this?

It's only because people haven't identified the true cause of their depression or lack of libido.
My candida overgrowth and gut dysbiosis completely anihilate my well-being and libido.
When I take antibiotics and untifungal drugs, I have tons of energy and a huge libido, nothing to do with steroids attacking the Leydig cells or the pituitary.
 
@Goingstronger I just saw I post you did some pages back. You said that for sometime you used Dhea and T base oral in capsules.
If yes can testosterone base powder be used in capsules ? And how effective you felt that was in comparison to transdermal?
 
"Antibiotics can cause toxicity in neurological and blood pathways, rashes and necrosis of the skin, kidney failure, fever, diarrhea, seizures and even death, just to name a few potential side effects."

"Ketoconazole (antifungal): Libido loss, erection problems."

interesting...
 
It's only because people haven't identified the true cause of their depression or lack of libido.
My candida overgrowth and gut dysbiosis completely anihilate my well-being and libido.
When I take antibiotics and untifungal drugs, I have tons of energy and a huge libido, nothing to do with steroids attacking the Leydig cells or the pituitary.
I see
Did you have trouble sleeping after quitting testosterone cold turkey? I feel like I no longer have a deep sleep and just dream/think all night. On testosterone I'm edgy and wired but when I sleep it's deep. Sounds like alcohol withdrawal.
 
"Antibiotics can cause toxicity in neurological and blood pathways, rashes and necrosis of the skin, kidney failure, fever, diarrhea, seizures and even death, just to name a few potential side effects."

"Ketoconazole (antifungal): Libido loss, erection problems."

interesting...

The only interesting point is that you would put all antibiotics in the same bag with a general sentence, from who knows where.

Augmentin, doxycycline and azithromycin have none of the sides you listed and work well to diminish gut endotoxins and therefore to increase libido.
Nystatin has none of the sides you listed as it's not systemically absorbed, and works well to diminish gut endotoxins and therefore to increase libido.

Your head is not that clear after all.
 
have you had an actual CFU or species test done on your microbiome? there is likely something else at play(although same result regardless), as gut biome can affect conversion rates of certain things ie DHT with creatine I believe was his example in a podcast I just was listening to with a dr on hubermans podcast.

I have very little faith in nateropaths and their tea leaf blood readings they do, of course can offer good advice many times, but at the same time is very much a pseudo science and went to one as was given a gift certificate. Just sort of sounds like a naturopath is telling you these things about overgrowths, which of course CAN happen, but they tell that to anyone suffering from any gastro issues for the most part or whatever is the new fad of the decade ie gluten. And it gets perpetuated as folks love a diagnosis and majority of people do feel better when cut out a shit tonne of carbs by not eating gluten. anyway, making an assumption here, and very much could be a MD who told you this.

at any rate.
doxycycline: cranial nerve toxicity; neuromuscular blockage; or intracranial hypertension

here is a site and outlines classes of antibiotics and effects. may note effects on gaba and serotonin systems which of course affect sex.. Psychiatric Adverse Effects of Antibiotics. may want to look more into other ways of getting microbiome in check vs antibiotics every few months. also, like I said its possible other conversions are happening with is linked to microbiome but not an overgrowth per say. ie perhaps protein powder you use or creatine l caritinene are converting at undesirable rates or causing biome to get out of whack.

REMEMBER: fungi are very much similar to humans so antifungals are 8/10 times toxic to humans aswell( I am also old enough to know that majority of "safe" fungicides herbicides pesticides, end up actually being toxic to humans even when the theoretical pathways shouldn't cause problems). Nystatin for example is to be used topically because of its toxicity particularly RENAL. IF you are taking it orally its for MOUTH infections, than yes it has a whole list of side effects and is mostly destroyed in your stomach re "this medication will NOT kill fungus in other parts of the body ONLY mouth or skin" is what they say, perhaps why can be taken as a mouth wash as little makes it to the gut and absorbed. at any rate not something want to take regularly or in high doses.

have you done a food allergy test? do you regularly eat fermented foods or probiotics? usually taking antibiotics kills off everything and causes further misbalance in gut biome, just from experience sometimes takes a months for peoples guts to get back to normal after antibiotics.

anyway, prob won't change your mind but something perhaps to consider as taking antibiotics and antifungals chronically is a very bad thing to do for MANY reasons. placebo is powerful(fake ED pills tend to work pretty good too Could a 'Placebo' Become the Next Big ED Treatment? ), and I just learned vast majority of ED is from phycological reasons (re a study of penile rings that observe night time erections in men with ED and most of them are fine, which is pretty surprising, although perhaps because T levels are high enough at night, just interesting, not saying this is your case as prob have gut issues too, which of course are linked to mental health aswell)

Cant argue with your experience of them working well for you but may want to dig deeper to see harms they may be causing and if in fact any actual literature on "overgrowth" and libido.. is there actual literature on libido and candida overgrowth? and are you not taking exogenous Testosterone anyway, so even if candida lowered test levels your within range so that shouldn't be the issue ;) and perhaps going after what's causing the potential overgrowth is smarter than taking antibiotics? killing all good bacteria just put you in a cycle where will continue to have issues and need more antibiotics as no "good bacteria" left to keep bad from overgrowing. food for thought anyway.

here is a paper saying high testosterone actually PROMOTES candida growth... hmmm. https://scholarworks.calstate.edu/downloads/j67318572
 
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Cant argue with your experience of them working well for you

And yet you are

and are you not taking exogenous Testosterone anyway, so even if candida lowered test levels your within range so that shouldn't be the issue ;)

Which tells you that there is more at play than purely the absolute androgen level value, ie endotoxins affecting multiple pathways that are decorelated from hormones and still affecting libido

and perhaps going after what's causing the potential overgrowth is smarter than taking antibiotics?

I didn't wait for you on that point, I have looked for and found the cause : mercury and iron overload, which I am slowly chelating out of my body.
While at the same time progressively eliminating the candida overgrowth they are causing so that no burden is put on my liver or kidneys.
 
chelators in general are not very good for you. giving blood is single best way to lower iron!

that being said, how did u find out your mercury levels are high? would need tissue biopsy to know? or did the naturopath give u a chelator than get you to do a piss test.. as of course urinalisis even in mercury poisoning is VERY unreliable, and will always be elevated for people on chelators regardless if actually have high mercury.

what's ur ferritin levels? ever get genetic test for hemochromatosis?

candida actually TAKES iron from the host.... so should lower your iron eventually ;)

have ULTRA high iron and no issue with candida.

doesn't change the fact that chronic antibiotic and antifungals(that dont work intestinally anyway) is objectively a BAD approach.

are you talking to a naturopath or a MD?
 
Depends on if you want to shoot your numbers into the stratosphere or not. Personally I find 25mgs of DHT to be sufficient if it's in DMSO. I think people tend to forget DMSO increases dermal absorption to almost 100%, certainly 90%. It comes with severe drawbacks though. The skin irritation alone is almost not worth it for me.

What are you trying to achieve with DHT? I find the smaller dosages help best, likely due to binding SHBG and freeing up some test. But the larger dosages (without T) will suppress and likely be too GABAergic. Might actually drop libido. Scrotal T would be the best way to raise DHT I think, while keeping a more favorable ratio of T/DHT/E2.
Do you any alternative to DMSO? I have 10g of raw DHT and I'm unsure what to do. (ps: I'm on T).
 
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