how to make transdermal testosterone?

[baxter0312]

Any other results to
Speak of??

Still interested in dermals especially doing sema dermals and peptide combos….

I have a bunch of women who wont pin and want dermals for peptides and glp’s… its been done albeit at a lower % of absorption but they arent worried about that tbh…

I mean u can buy heal that ironmag makes and it has tb500 and bpc157 in it, and they have a few others… so it can be done

Peptides are out of the question, do some research and you'll see how heavy the molecules are. And esters are a big roadblock to making dermals. They just add too much weight.

What I'm interested in is oral compounds used as a cream instead.

What results are you talking about?

What cream do you use? You simply mix the cream with testo base and that's it? Don't heat anything?

Yes you just mix it but it's not as simple as you're imagining

For a 20% testosterone solution to make a dent in your serum concentration, yes, you actually do.

If you're using a hack method,sure

 

[Cyp93]

Yes you just mix it but it's not as simple as you're imagining

That's what im asking what method are you using ...

 

[baxter0312]

That's what im asking what method are you using ...

https://jarpharmaceutical.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/COMPOUNDING-WITH-PHLOJEL.pdf

 

[PenguinPiss]

That's what im asking what method are you using ...

https://jarpharmaceutical.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/COMPOUNDING-WITH-PHLOJEL.pdf

This vid shows the methods used (trituration, levigation, and geometric dilution).

disclaimer: i haven'y made a cream yet, but it helps to know these compounding skills if your gonna do it

 

[baxter0312]

This vid shows the methods used (trituration, levigation, and geometric dilution).

disclaimer: i haven'y made a cream yet, but it helps to know these compounding skills if your gonna do it

Yes it's basically the same process as when you make gummies, sublingual tabs, lozenges, troches, etc.

 

[MR.BTB]

I’d be very curious of what results someone has had from a dmso and test base like @Goingstronger has advocated before? In terms of muscle gain or fat % reduction. And libido and erection quality.

Also

My Dad has been taking test (pinning it) and loves it! He’s 63 and never felt better he says. I wonder how he would go comparing the two if he tried the transdermal?

Any input would be awesome legends

 

[baxter0312]

I’d be very curious of what results someone has had from a dmso and test base like @Goingstronger has advocated before? In terms of muscle gain or fat % reduction. And libido and erection quality.

Also

My Dad has been taking test (pinning it) and loves it! He’s 63 and never felt better he says. I wonder how he would go comparing the two if he tried the transdermal?

Any input would be awesome legends

As I’ve said before dmso isn’t good for transdermals unless you want some kind of pre workout. It’s in and out of your system too quick.

 

[GloryUs]

Has anybody tried a 50% ethanol 50% tocopherol solution as a solvent for topical testosterone base? This guy on RPF claims it worked very well for him. I’m going to be trying this formula next week.

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/experience-with-dissolving-dht-or-testosterone-in-a-vitamin-e-based-solution.51509/#post-956576

His lab results

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/transdermal-testosterone-solvent.52479/page-2#post-980928

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Has anybody tried a 50% ethanol 50% tocopherol solution as a solvent for topical testosterone base? This guy on RPF claims it worked very well for him. I’m going to be trying this formula next week.

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/experience-with-dissolving-dht-or-testosterone-in-a-vitamin-e-based-solution.51509/#post-956576

His lab results

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/transdermal-testosterone-solvent.52479/page-2#post-980928

You would absorb way too much vitamin E

 

[GloryUs]

You would absorb way too much vitamin E

Is that so bad? He claims his lab results and experience with this solvent combo are very good. Have you ever tried it?

Absorbing hormones with vitamin E on RPF is considered desirable to help it circulate through the lymphatic system.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Is that so bad? He claims his lab results and experience with this solvent combo are very good. Have you ever tried it?

Absorbing hormones with vitamin E on RPF is considered desirable to help it circulate through the lymphatic system.

When a hormone is in your blood, it's in your blood, end of the conversation.

Tocopherol oil doesn't make it go elsewhere by some magic, and DMSO doesn't carry it straight to the receptor in an enhanced way as some have claimed on the RPF.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Is that so bad? He claims his lab results and experience with this solvent combo are very good. Have you ever tried it?

Absorbing hormones with vitamin E on RPF is considered desirable to help it circulate through the lymphatic system.

Vitamin E inhibits the function of androgen receptors :

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.102014399

 

[peater]

Vitamin E inhibits the function of androgen receptors :

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.102014399

They used a-tocopheryl succinate. Quite different from plain, mixed (including gamma) tocopherols.

 

[buck]

Vitamin E inhibits the function of androgen receptors :

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.102014399

I put on well over 60 pounds of muscle while using Vit E supplements so i an not sure how much inhibition happens in real world settings. I find most lab studies don't apply well in the real world.

 

[clearheaded]

I put on well over 60 pounds of muscle while using Vit E supplements so i an not sure how much inhibition happens in real world settings. I find most lab studies don't apply well in the real world.

but imagine if took vitamin E out of your food completely how big you'd be lol.. just for note any oil soluble vitamin is going to mess with your system when you have too much..

 

[buck]

but imagine if took vitamin E out of your food completely how big you'd be lol.. just for note any oil soluble vitamin is going to mess with your system when you have too much..

Optimal amounts of anything are always best. But when dealing with people that is difficult at best to do. Without continuous testing there is no way to know. whether some is is over or under doing. And even then how does one know what is optimal. Experts advice and what people that live the longest have done are often not the same i find. I grew well in my growth years. Go years at a time without a day sick etc. So while i am sure i am far from optimal i can't complain.

 

[Sk8man101]

Sorry to bump this thread again,
What is the concern here as far as accidently absorbing something you don't want absorbed with DMSO.
Like how long does the effect last?

Could one just use a patch or bandaid over the area to mitigate this concern?

 

[Avies48]

I guess u could just stop trying to make ur own dermal paste and liquid and use this

VersaPenn™ (AG) Anhydrous Transdermal Gel100g

Transdermal Gel Base for Pain Management - For Rx Topical Use VersaPenn™ Anhydrous Gel (AG) is a proprietary transdermal topical gel formulation with highly functional ingredients with documented solubility enhancement and clinically proven deep skin permeation and penetration results for...

specializedrx.com

Or even order phlojel ultra and combine ur stuff

Store – Jarpharmaceutical

jarpharmaceutical.com

Order Phlojel Ultra

Check out http://phlojelultra.us!

phlojelultra.us

https://jarpharmaceutical.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/COMPOUNDING-WITH-PHLOJEL.pdf

 

[Deleted member 59947]

I guess u could just stop trying to make ur own dermal paste and liquid and use this

VersaPenn™ (AG) Anhydrous Transdermal Gel100g

Transdermal Gel Base for Pain Management - For Rx Topical Use VersaPenn™ Anhydrous Gel (AG) is a proprietary transdermal topical gel formulation with highly functional ingredients with documented solubility enhancement and clinically proven deep skin permeation and penetration results for...

specializedrx.com

Or even order phlojel ultra and combine ur stuff

Store – Jarpharmaceutical

jarpharmaceutical.com

Order Phlojel Ultra

Check out http://phlojelultra.us!

phlojelultra.us

https://jarpharmaceutical.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/COMPOUNDING-WITH-PHLOJEL.pdf

Good luck mixing any steroid powder in those without any grits left.

 

[Avies48]

Good luck mixing any steroid powder in those without any grits left.

At least it can be tested… may as well to see if it works…