I would like to know what those of you who support trump will do when he loses the election?

[Skard]

Answer to your question: Because Trump did win in an extreme landslide.
Do some more research on the Flynn story, and get back to me.
By the way, I'm, sure glad Clinton, Biden, et al never lied.

 

[Cookieman]

That's because he shouldn't be on the hot seat to begin with. And for the record, I'm not exactly a Trump supporter. I heard his speech and didn't hear anything that could be construed as inciteful. Impeachment in this case is unconstitutional and will be thrown out. This is simply another political ploy by the dems to keep him from running again in 4 years. It's all political theater to me, a joke. Almost every politician in this country should be fired, left, right, top to bottom. So many people in our country are hurting from this " pandemic" physically, mentally, financially, etc. What do these idiots do? Play politics, fight amongst each other, act like a bunch of children..Then pass a "stimulus bill" with a HUGE amount of money going to other countries instead of taking care of American citizens..They are all guilty, left and right

Spin doctors. That’s a bullshit way to string the facts together and take trump out of the hot seat. Complete bullshit

 

[Test_Subject]

Answer to your question: Because Trump did win in an extreme landslide.
Do some more research on the Flynn story, and get back to me.
By the way, I'm, sure glad Clinton, Biden, et al never lied.

So you stated no facts when asked for them, denied the truth and resorted to whataboutism, all in one post.

I'm honestly impressed -- that's some serious dedication to sophistry.

 

[Skard]

Sophistry. Same word Northmich just used. So you are Northmich's "wife"...Or maybe you ARE Northmich.

This election was dirtier than Madonna's cunt.

 

[RGL90]

Why would I want to respond to such a child? I’d put you on ignore, but your ignorance is as amusing as it is depressing

Why would I want to respond to such a child? I’d put you on ignore, but your ignorance is as amusing as it is depressing

Uh oh you have a follower , a quack doc who’s obsessed with dicks . Just show us your wife man . I’m sure it’s depressing but I won’t judge until I have proof

 

[RGL90]

Sophistry. Same word Northmich just used. So you are Northmich's "wife"...Or maybe you ARE Northmich.

This election was dirtier than Madonna's cunt.

No he’s more intelligent then north Mich, north Mich is undeniably one of the dumbest people on this board

 

[Test_Subject]

Sophistry. Same word Northmich just used. So you are Northmich's "wife"...Or maybe you ARE Northmich.

This election was dirtier than Madonna's cunt.

Here's a thought, maybe it's a fitting way to describe your posts so multiple people have used the term.

Or, I'm Northmitch. The truth is definitely one of those two options.

 

[Millard]

Conservative commentator Jonah Goldberg's response to the "Democrats are hypocrites" defense of Trump's actions...

"Conservatism claims to believe in serious notions of right & wrong. We (claim to) champion moral clarity. If your first response to every misdeed of your side is to criticize the other side for condemning it. That's not principled conservatism, it's hackery. "











https://twitter.com/JonahDispatch/status/1349880472097214464

 

[Skard]

"Cornpop was a bad dude"
"I'll take you behind the gym and beat the hell out of you"
"Kids like rubbing the hair on my legs."
"I like kids jumping on my lap"
"I never did anything wrong in Ukraine(never mind the video) and never took over 1 billion dollars from China"
"My son is a good boy"


Yeah, I feel good about this guy being in office, with Camelface Hairass on deck. I'm a happy camper.

 

[RGL90]

View attachment 141028
"Cornpop was a bad dude"
"I'll take you behind the gym and beat the hell out of you"
"Kids like rubbing the hair on my legs."
"I like kids jumping on my lap"
"I never did anything wrong in Ukraine(never mind the video) and never took over 1 billion dollars from China"
"My son is a good boy"


Yeah, I feel good about this guy being in office, with Camelface Hairass on deck. I'm a happy camper.

And here’s the question again , out of the 80 million supposed votes he got , can not one of you ( Millard , north Mich, quack doc ) engage the question we keep asking as to why you support Biden and his policies ? More crickets ? I just want a honest debate no Bash fest, I honestly want to hear other then we hate orange man is why I voted for him

 

[Skard]

And here’s the question again , out of the 80 million supposed votes he got , can not one of you ( Millard , north Mich, quack doc ) engage the question we keep asking as to why you support Biden and his policies ? More crickets ? I just want a honest debate no Bash fest, I honestly want to hear other then we hate orange man is why I voted for him

Just like the Nugent letter. They just call names rather than giving facts to dispute a single point. Then accuse others of exactly what they are guilty of (ad hominem attacks, sophistry, etc.) . They accuse others of exactly what they are guilty of (projection.) Every point Nugent makes is provable fact and is on record.

 

[MFAAS]

Sophistry. Same word Northmich just used. So you are Northmich's "wife"...Or maybe you ARE Northmich.

This election was dirtier than Madonna's cunt.

You're right. It was dirty. It was full of Russian actors trying to produce false information via social media, memes, fake "activist groups" and manipulating the American public to actually try to do 2 things:
1. Further divide us. They want America to die.
2. Keep Trump in power. They know that Trump is bad for the US. He is bad for political stability. He is bad for democracy. He is bad for ensuring the public is educated, he incites mad conspiracies and deteriorates trust in the government. He is bad for the economy. He is bad for The PEOPLE of the United States (except maybe the top 1% or even 0.1%). He is bad for fucking everything, because he never actually did his fucking job as president. He sat around and watch cable news instead of going to intelligence briefings, tweeted and posted inflammatory shit on social media, and spent TENS OF MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars going on vacation at his own resorts. That alone should be cause for a criminal investigation as it is a misuse of public funds--he spent almost $20 MILLION dollars at his own resort in his first 80 days as president.

So yeah. The election was dirty, JUST LIKE the 2016 election was dirty. He won last time due to widespread misinformation campaigns by foreign governments. The US didn't take that threat seriously. Social media has been the downfall of education and now we have two groups of people: those who believe the truth and those who live in a world of lies...and both side thinks they are the ones who believe the truth. Well I will tell you right now: anyone who actually starts reading trustworthy sources (I'm talking about NEUTRAL SOURCES like NPR, PBS, not even the CNN whatnot), verifying information, doing some hardcore research from credible institutions and stop getting information off facebook, youtube, parler, or whatever, people might eventually realize the truth...or maybe they're too far gone idk.

Look, Biden wasn't my first choice either, and neither is Kamala. I would've much rather had Yang, Tulsi, or Bernie. But the establishment chose Biden. I agree with basically all his policies except gun control. I am very pro-2nd amendment. For policies:

I already wrote a massive post in a different thread, so feel free to read that. But first and foremost as to why I support Biden and am vehemently anti-Trump is that Trump has slashed environmental protections. Not only does is hurt future generations by ignoring the #1 existential threat to humanity (climate change) but it also immediately causes health damage to all of us. Our water, air, and soil is all more polluted with toxic chemicals because of Trump policies, I feel the Biden administration (any democrat) will take these threats far more seriously than any GOP candidate nowadays.

Overall I do think Biden has a solid picking of policies. Tax reform to fund necessary programs. Tackle important social issues. Properly provide The People support during this COVID pandemic crisis. Homelessness is about to increase by 40% if we don't do something. That's not lazy people who didnt "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" ..that is hardworking Americans who got fucked over by big businesses AGAIN because we don't have strong enough regulations to protect employees and prevent executive money grabs through stock buybacks and massive bonuses or golden parachutes.

There are TONS of issues to be addressed. Biden will do a hell of a lot better job than Trump could ever dream of doing.

 

[BobbySweeney]

I had a flirtation when I was younger. But I moved on. I still like capitalism a lot but am not opposed to some rules.

Same here, but I'd still consider myself an admirer of her works.

Based on your logic in this thread, how do you respond to people telling you to stop riding the fence? Just ignore them because they are sheeple?

Tell you what: these latest moves by the Democrats and Biden have set Biden up to look more moderate and level headed over the next 12 months. Smart moves.
I don't think any of this is about "getting trump" as much as "making Biden look fantastic in comparison."

 

[BobbySweeney]

You're right. It was dirty. It was full of Russian actors trying to produce false information via social media, memes, fake "activist groups" and manipulating the American public to actually try to do 2 things:
1. Further divide us. They want America to die.
2. Keep Trump in power. They know that Trump is bad for the US. He is bad for political stability. He is bad for democracy. He is bad for ensuring the public is educated, he incites mad conspiracies and deteriorates trust in the government. He is bad for the economy. He is bad for The PEOPLE of the United States (except maybe the top 1% or even 0.1%). He is bad for fucking everything, because he never actually did his fucking job as president. He sat around and watch cable news instead of going to intelligence briefings, tweeted and posted inflammatory shit on social media, and spent TENS OF MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars going on vacation at his own resorts. That alone should be cause for a criminal investigation as it is a misuse of public funds--he spent almost $20 MILLION dollars at his own resort in his first 80 days as president.

So yeah. The election was dirty, JUST LIKE the 2016 election was dirty. He won last time due to widespread misinformation campaigns by foreign governments. The US didn't take that threat seriously. Social media has been the downfall of education and now we have two groups of people: those who believe the truth and those who live in a world of lies...and both side thinks they are the ones who believe the truth. Well I will tell you right now: anyone who actually starts reading trustworthy sources (I'm talking about NEUTRAL SOURCES like NPR, PBS, not even the CNN whatnot), verifying information, doing some hardcore research from credible institutions and stop getting information off facebook, youtube, parler, or whatever, people might eventually realize the truth...or maybe they're too far gone idk.

Look, Biden wasn't my first choice either, and neither is Kamala. I would've much rather had Yang, Tulsi, or Bernie. But the establishment chose Biden. I agree with basically all his policies except gun control. I am very pro-2nd amendment. For policies:

I already wrote a massive post in a different thread, so feel free to read that. But first and foremost as to why I support Biden and am vehemently anti-Trump is that Trump has slashed environmental protections. Not only does is hurt future generations by ignoring the #1 existential threat to humanity (climate change) but it also immediately causes health damage to all of us. Our water, air, and soil is all more polluted with toxic chemicals because of Trump policies, I feel the Biden administration (any democrat) will take these threats far more seriously than any GOP candidate nowadays.

Overall I do think Biden has a solid picking of policies. Tax reform to fund necessary programs. Tackle important social issues. Properly provide The People support during this COVID pandemic crisis. Homelessness is about to increase by 40% if we don't do something. That's not lazy people who didnt "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" ..that is hardworking Americans who got fucked over by big businesses AGAIN because we don't have strong enough regulations to protect employees and prevent executive money grabs through stock buybacks and massive bonuses or golden parachutes.

There are TONS of issues to be addressed. Biden will do a hell of a lot better job than Trump could ever dream of doing.

Man, really? Bernie? Come on.
And I'm fine with the trump did bad things stuff because it's true (in some circumstances) but let's not say bad for the economy when he took on China. China is horrible for our economy and our future and no president has done anything about it because it's a hard fight.

Man I do love Tulsi though; i don't agree with everything she says but nobody does and that's what makes her great. She's a democrat that is very moderate and she has admitted being wrong AND changed her stance on things before.

I'd take her over pretty much anyone; and she would really unite us again.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

You're right. It was dirty. It was full of Russian actors trying to produce false information via social media, memes, fake "activist groups" and manipulating the American public to actually try to do 2 things:
1. Further divide us. They want America to die.
2. Keep Trump in power. They know that Trump is bad for the US. He is bad for political stability. He is bad for democracy. He is bad for ensuring the public is educated, he incites mad conspiracies and deteriorates trust in the government. He is bad for the economy. He is bad for The PEOPLE of the United States (except maybe the top 1% or even 0.1%). He is bad for fucking everything, because he never actually did his fucking job as president. He sat around and watch cable news instead of going to intelligence briefings, tweeted and posted inflammatory shit on social media, and spent TENS OF MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars going on vacation at his own resorts. That alone should be cause for a criminal investigation as it is a misuse of public funds--he spent almost $20 MILLION dollars at his own resort in his first 80 days as president.

So yeah. The election was dirty, JUST LIKE the 2016 election was dirty. He won last time due to widespread misinformation campaigns by foreign governments. The US didn't take that threat seriously. Social media has been the downfall of education and now we have two groups of people: those who believe the truth and those who live in a world of lies...and both side thinks they are the ones who believe the truth. Well I will tell you right now: anyone who actually starts reading trustworthy sources (I'm talking about NEUTRAL SOURCES like NPR, PBS, not even the CNN whatnot), verifying information, doing some hardcore research from credible institutions and stop getting information off facebook, youtube, parler, or whatever, people might eventually realize the truth...or maybe they're too far gone idk.

Look, Biden wasn't my first choice either, and neither is Kamala. I would've much rather had Yang, Tulsi, or Bernie. But the establishment chose Biden. I agree with basically all his policies except gun control. I am very pro-2nd amendment. For policies:

I already wrote a massive post in a different thread, so feel free to read that. But first and foremost as to why I support Biden and am vehemently anti-Trump is that Trump has slashed environmental protections. Not only does is hurt future generations by ignoring the #1 existential threat to humanity (climate change) but it also immediately causes health damage to all of us. Our water, air, and soil is all more polluted with toxic chemicals because of Trump policies, I feel the Biden administration (any democrat) will take these threats far more seriously than any GOP candidate nowadays.

Overall I do think Biden has a solid picking of policies. Tax reform to fund necessary programs. Tackle important social issues. Properly provide The People support during this COVID pandemic crisis. Homelessness is about to increase by 40% if we don't do something. That's not lazy people who didnt "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" ..that is hardworking Americans who got fucked over by big businesses AGAIN because we don't have strong enough regulations to protect employees and prevent executive money grabs through stock buybacks and massive bonuses or golden parachutes.

There are TONS of issues to be addressed. Biden will do a hell of a lot better job than Trump could ever dream of doing.

Environment and climate change? Really? So to solve it we’re supposed to convert to wind and solar? They’ve already been shown to be inadequate to supply our energy needs. It’s a technological path leading nowhere and it’s expensive.

Meanwhile China is opening coal-fired power plants daily. 90% of the plastic that CNN makes us feel bad for in the ocean is due to 5 rivers in Asia. We’re pissing in the wind thinking we’re a significant cause of climate change and environmental issues.

I work in the environmental field and water and soil is NOT more toxic under Trump. That’s simply wrong. The standards have not changed in 4 years because the EPA hasn’t changed them. Trump relaxed the requirements for environmental impact studies. Pipelines and roadways can be built without 10-15 year studies on surface water flow and bog turtle populations. The EPA is a giant example of BIG government costing a lot of money for minimal results.

But everyone likes to say “consider the environment for the sake of our children”
- ultimate virtue signaling.

 

[Skard]

Antifa leader who dressed as Trump supporter arrested for storming capitol.

BREAKING: FBI Arrests Antifa Leader John Sullivan in Utah After Storming US Capitol ...Update: With FBI Affidavit

Antifa-Insurgence leader John Earl Sullivan is in custody after being arrested in Utah on Thursday. As reported previously Antifa protester John Sullivan was caught on video posing as a Trump supporter during the rioting at the US Capitol last week. CAUGHT ON VIDEO: Antifa Protester John...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Human_backhoe]

Also, fuck James O'keefe

 

[MFAAS]

Environment and climate change? Really? So to solve it we’re supposed to convert to wind and solar? They’ve already been shown to be inadequate to supply our energy needs. It’s a technological path leading nowhere and it’s expensive.

Meanwhile China is opening coal-fired power plants daily. 90% of the plastic that CNN makes us feel bad for in the ocean is due to 5 rivers in Asia. We’re pissing in the wind thinking we’re a significant cause of climate change and environmental issues.

I work in the environmental field and water and soil is NOT more toxic under Trump. That’s simply wrong. The standards have not changed in 4 years because the EPA hasn’t changed them. Trump relaxed the requirements for environmental impact studies. Pipelines and roadways can be built without 10-15 year studies on surface water flow and bog turtle populations. The EPA is a giant example of BIG government costing a lot of money for minimal results.

But everyone likes to say “consider the environment for the sake of our children”
- ultimate virtue signaling.

The old "China is polluting real bad so we should be able to do it too!" Is just such a bad excuse. The US is supposed to be the leader of the world, the Best.

Saying green energy that good enough is flat out false. Maybe if we actually invested in our infrastructure we would be able to do it. It does take that much, see this.

There's no way around it: we are destroying the planet. Offshore drilling and subsequent oil spills, pipelines destroying and fragmenting habitat, and chemical pollution in our land and water are all huge problems. My girl is an ecologist and I have spent an inordinate amount of time studying the subject as well. Trump had the EPA blatantly ignore multiple findings in the interest of big business: from PFAS in our drinking water to https://www.voanews.com/usa/dow-chemical-pushes-trump-administration-scrap-pesticide-study, to chemicals used in dry cleaning that have caused countless American military members' babies to be born still or with heart defects. Also let us not forget his rollback on fracking regulations that is polluting the hell out of people's backyards. On top of that, in many of his rollbacks he tried to include legislation limiting our ability to implement future legislation on these very same things: he wanted permanent rollbacks to environmental protections regardless of any environmental or even HUMAN health consequences in the future. In short he gives zero fucks about yours or my health and only about the profits of big businesses.

The evidence is irrefutable. Our country is dirtier and more polluted, more toxic, and we will pay the price. We are part of the ecosystem and that is not going to change any time soon.

YES China and India need to wake the fuck up and start SERIOUSLY regulating the shit out of their industries, but those other countries being shitty assholes in mean the USA should be too. We were supposed to be great. Guess that was nothing more than a catchy slogan though.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

The old "China is polluting real bad so we should be able to do it too!" Is just such a bad excuse. The US is supposed to be the leader of the world, the Best.

Saying green energy that good enough is flat out false. Maybe if we actually invested in our infrastructure we would be able to do it. It does take that much, see this.

There's no way around it: we are destroying the planet. Offshore drilling and subsequent oil spills, pipelines destroying and fragmenting habitat, and chemical pollution in our land and water are all huge problems. My girl is an ecologist and I have spent an inordinate amount of time studying the subject as well. Trump had the EPA blatantly ignore multiple findings in the interest of big business: from PFAS in our drinking water to https://www.voanews.com/usa/dow-chemical-pushes-trump-administration-scrap-pesticide-study, to chemicals used in dry cleaning that have caused countless American military members' babies to be born still or with heart defects. Also let us not forget his rollback on fracking regulations that is polluting the hell out of people's backyards. On top of that, in many of his rollbacks he tried to include legislation limiting our ability to implement future legislation on these very same things: he wanted permanent rollbacks to environmental protections regardless of any environmental or even HUMAN health consequences in the future. In short he gives zero fucks about yours or my health and only about the profits of big businesses.

The evidence is irrefutable. Our country is dirtier and more polluted, more toxic, and we will pay the price. We are part of the ecosystem and that is not going to change any time soon.

YES China and India need to wake the fuck up and start SERIOUSLY regulating the shit out of their industries, but those other countries being shitty assholes in mean the USA should be too. We were supposed to be great. Guess that was nothing more than a catchy slogan though.

Did freeingenergy.com give a price for the 21,000 square miles of solar panels. You know there’s waste associated with that though right.

Problem with solar wind is it’s not sustainable. What to do with the additional energy that’s unused. Batteries are heavy, expensive and use heavy metals. Ever see a lithium mine? Is that good for the environment?

PFAs and dry cleaning chemicals haven’t been used in years. Dry cleaners don’t use perc anymore. Those are from legacy sites. They are residual from BEFORE any environmental regs. So that’s not new and it’s a perfect example of how we IMPROVED because those are banned or heavily regulated.

Look, I probably wasn’t clear. I’m not AGAINST switching over from coal, oil, natural gas. But all I’m saying is the CURRENT options aren’t a whole lot better when you look at it start to finish. Solar/wind are considerably more expensive.

The way I see it is the sum of all parts. Why put ourselves at an economic disadvantage that the rest of the world isn’t going to match. Use cheap energy now and develop a better option. Wind/solar is a DEAD END. We know that for two decades now. So quit throwing money at it and use the money to innovate. That’s what Republicans favor. Fiscal responsibility.

And the tariffs Trump used against China is a slap in China’s face. He also took away china’s favored nation status. Those are things that are supposed to wake China up. Biden will repeal that in the first week and China will throttle up to full-speed belching pollution into the air and rivers. Most of Asia doesn’t have garbage collection. It just goes right into the streams and rivers taking it into our oceans.

We’ll always be pissing in the wind until the developing countries sign on board. Saving the environment makes people feel warm and fuzzy until the reality is that we are the dummies paying for everyone else’s sins.

 

[TideGear]

Reducing the population would solve most of the world's problems but try getting elected when you run with that. People would go bat shit crazy. Anything else is like putting a band aid on a cancer patient. It's only a matter of time until we're out of options.