IGF1 LR3

[Intrepid]

For those who have used it, how were your results on and and what dosage and length of time did you run it?

There seems to be conflicting information on it regarding timing with some suggesting preworkout, while others do it post workout. Maybe I should split the dose and do it before and after? I know the LR3 version had a longer half life, with some saying 20-30 hours, while others say it's shorter and should be dosed 2x a day

Then there's the topic of localized growth from IM injection vs systematic subq injection. Is there any proof, clinically or anecdotally that IM injection does increase muscle growth in that area?

Then lastly what's the reccomended dosage? Seen ranges of 50mcg-200mcg, with some saying that with real igf1, anything over 100mcg is too much. How much of a blood sugar drop do you notice with these dosages?

Right now I'm thinking of starting with 50mcg pre workout and 50mcg post workout unless there's a better method

Appreciate the input guys.

 

[Ateam2023]

ill follow, im graduaully getting curious about slin as well as igf1, so ima just lurk on this lol

 

[Intrepid]

ill follow, im graduaully getting curious about slin as well as igf1, so ima just lurk on this lol

It seems to have the added benefit of improving insulin sensitivity too which I'm curious about, but I also want to start low/slow because apparently it can cause organ/intestinal growth if abused too high.

Hgh + slin has been a game changer though. Really helping to bring up my legs and back with it. I'm hoping IGF1-lr3 could be the cherry ontop for the last 4 weeks of the bulk before I throw in a mini cut. Maybe push the test and insulin up the last 4 weeks when the igf1 goes in and just increase the calories a good bit.

 

[Ateam2023]

im not necessarily wanting to get on igf1 , as i have plenty of experimenting left with hgh lol, but insulin on theother hand has really peeked my curiosity as far as pre- post workout etc, and in a bulking content,,,,

 

[PaintDrinker]

getting curious about slin

Hit me up haha

 

[PaintDrinker]

So I've heard that it's great, never used it. But Kurt Havens just did a podcast and said it's trash and most people he knows won't even finish the vial. There was a 10 min segment on the podcast on this specifically I'll try to find it and link it for you.

I'm going to butcher this but his view was that you don't want a super high peak igf-1 level all the time. I'm wording this very wrong like something about lr3 specifically is counter productive. Again this is just one guys take

 

[AlexDavis43]

Been using 200 ug/d LR3 and it seems like a good effect on muscle pumps/fullness. It's all bro-science but I thought the local muscle growth was IM IGF-1 DES, not LR3 (I never tried DES).

I dose LR3 pre-workout for convenience. I don't know about optimal dose timing but seems like maybe a minor point.

 

[AlexDavis43]

So I've heard that it's great, never used it. But Kurt Havens just did a podcast and said it's trash and most people he knows won't even finish the vial. There was a 10 min segment on the podcast on this specifically I'll try to find it and link it for you.

I'm going to butcher this but his view was that you don't want a super high peak igf-1 level all the time. I'm wording this very wrong like something about lr3 specifically is counter productive. Again this is just one guys take

I'll watch the video if you find it but Havens is a content creator now. Has to have a spicy opinion on everything to get clicks. Entertainment not education. Not saying he doesn't know some stuff, but you know how it goes with social media.

 

[PaintDrinker]

I'll watch the video if you find it but Havens is a content creator now. Has to have a spicy opinion on everything to get clicks. Entertainment not education. Not saying he doesn't know some stuff, but you know how it goes with social media.

I wouldn't group him into the "influencer" category. He's a great coach with a PHD, that happens to have a YouTube channel with like 5k subs. Think it's more of a hobby for him

 

[FunkOdyssey]

I wouldn't group him into the "influencer" category. He's a great coach with a PHD, that happens to have a YouTube channel with like 5k subs. Think it's more of a hobby for him

Minor correction: he's a PhD candidate, meaning he's some indeterminate amount of the way through a PhD program which he may or may not ever complete.

 

[PaintDrinker]

Minor correction: he's a PhD candidate, meaning he's some indeterminate amount of the way through a PhD program which he may or may not ever complete.

Thanks, noted. We can agree he's very intelligent.

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

Thanks, noted. We can agree he's very intelligent.

At 50 years old, he's likely a fully self-funded PhD student at who knows where. If you bring the cash, most lower-tier universities will accept pretty much anyone for a PhD position.

Havens does appear to have a reasonably high verbal IQ, like most successful bullshit artists, but his analytical skills leave much to be desired. Recently saw him on a podcast, where he was putting out so much nonsense (with total confidence) that it defies belief.

If someone knows his PhD supervisors, please shoot me a PM. I'd like to have a word with them.

 

[PaintDrinker]

At 50 years old, he's likely a fully self-funded PhD student at who knows where. If you bring the cash, most lower-tier universities will accept pretty much anyone for a PhD position.

Havens does appear to have a reasonably high verbal IQ, like most successful bullshit artists, but his analytical skills leave much to be desired. Recently saw him on a podcast, where he was putting out so much nonsense (with total confidence) that it defies belief.

If someone knows his PhD supervisors, please shoot me a PM. I'd like to have a word with them.

Agree to disagree, goal was not to hijack this thread, apologies.

I have a few lr3 vials I'll try it out and report back.

 

[Intrepid]

I just wonder how bad the blood sugar drop is going to be on say 50-100mcg, especially if stacked with insulin.

I'll probably do a few days of igf1-lr3 by itself just to gauge the blood sugar changes

 

[eery]

Hgh + slin has been a game changer though. Really helping to bring up my legs and back with it. I'm hoping IGF1-lr3 could be the cherry ontop for the last 4 weeks of the bulk before I throw in a mini cut. Maybe push the test and insulin up the last 4 weeks when the igf1 goes in and just increase the calories a good bit.

How has your hgh+slin protocol been and what have you seen from adding it to your regime?

sorry but i dont have any anecdotes on igf1 lr3, i believe typeIIx has written some on igf1 lr3 and its halflife if i remember correctly.

 

[AlexDavis43]

My blood sugar stays in range with 200 ug/d IGF-1 LR3 and 8 IU/d insulin pre-workout. Many many other factors at play: cardio, diet, hGH, berberine & empagliflozin, etc.

LR3 didn't lower FBG which is usually in the 80's. No symptoms of hypo or anything like that either.

 

[Ateam2023]

My blood sugar stays in range with 200 ug/d IGF-1 LR3 and 8 IU/d insulin pre-workout. Many many other factors at play: cardio, diet, hGH, berberine & empagliflozin, etc.

LR3 didn't lower FBG which is usually in the 80's. No symptoms of hypo or anything like that either.

jardiance? diabetic? Or just what you find is working?

 

[AlexDavis43]

jardiance? diabetic? Or just what you find is working?

No dude definitely not diabetic! Trying to stay proactive with my health.

I've never found LR3 to be hypoglycemic.

 

[Intrepid]

How has your hgh+slin protocol been and what have you seen from adding it to your regime?

sorry but i dont have any anecdotes on igf1 lr3, i believe typeIIx has written some on igf1 lr3 and its halflife if i remember correctly.

I'm very impressed with the combination honestly. It's a total game changer. The scale seems to fly up much easier while appearing leaner (or at worst very minimal fat gain), noticed enhanced recovery, better pumps.

Curious to see what happens when the igf1lr3 goes in. Really want to make the most of this bulk, then do a cut after and just maintain from there--but first i need to add some more quality size

 

[Megadick3000]

Been using 200 ug/d LR3 and it seems like a good effect on muscle pumps/fullness. It's all bro-science but I thought the local muscle growth was IM IGF-1 DES, not LR3 (I never tried DES).

I dose LR3 pre-workout for convenience. I don't know about optimal dose timing but seems like maybe a minor point.

My experiments mirror this, improved pump and fullness. Tbh not worth it. Used 150mcg. Can get a much better pump and fullness pinning slin.