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What has your doses, timing and frequency of use of the insulin and HGH been? hows the PED cycle looking?
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What has your doses, timing and frequency of use of the insulin and HGH been? hows the PED cycle looking?
Intrepid
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500 test
1200 eq
400 tren e
400 mast e
12-13.33iu gh (1/3rd qsc vial)
20iu nolvalin r pre workout, then 10iu post workout if I get my workout in early enough
Might up to test to 750 in later weeks of the bulk but I don't think I need to atm, still growing well
Been doing the gh full dose and hour so so pre workout, at the same time I take the slin
Intrepid
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It's HPLC tested igf1 with QSC.
At worst it's junk or i don't notice anything from it and dont run it again. Or maybe it ends up being awesome. We'll see
DugPrime
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At what level are your IGF-1 now?
PaintDrinker
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Just checking back in because this post pushed me to try out the lr3 I was sitting on. 70 mics a day pwo, it's definitely synergizing extremely well the the gh/slin. Pumps are actually pretty painful but I'm almost entirely off androgens just 400 test and I'm maintaining the tren/mast look.
Keeping this in the arsenal absolutely. 0 noticeable impact on blood sugar all of my readings are as expected.
Keeping this in the arsenal absolutely. 0 noticeable impact on blood sugar all of my readings are as expected.
DugPrime
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And like, if you had to choose between HGH and IGF-1 LR3, in terms of mass building effects, which one would you choose? I'm thinking about replacing my HGH with it, but don't know if it's worth it. To be fair, I get my HGH for almost 0$ because it's covered by my insurance, but it doesn't makes my IGF-1 really high, so when it comes to mass building I am unsure.
So, I am hesitating for my next cycles, I have to choose between ugl HGH (and so doubling the dosage from 4 to 8iu) or adding IGF-1 LR3 at 100mcg a day.
PaintDrinker
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Id never drop my 10iu gh lol it's a nice addition tho
DugPrime
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That's a great amount, what's your IGF-1 levels on that dosage of HGH?
PaintDrinker
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No clue! But it's working
Intrepid
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Making me excited for my run with it. The fun will be starting soon. Definitely note whatever you find with it, curious how the experiences compare
Intrepid
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Probably run hgh
Hgh Can be run indefinitely. Igf1-lr3 needs to be cycled because apparently it loses effectiveness, although i cant confirm this until i actually run it. Seen reccomendations for 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off
PaintDrinker
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Absolutely bro
Nice cycle. What’s your height and weight? I’m also looking into insulin, just for the pumps. How are you timing your carbs?
Intrepid
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6'3 240, 9-10% bf
Not trying to be a mass monster, more interested in moderate mass with good aesthetics. would just like to add another 10lbs of quality muscle (particularly in the back and legs) then cut some more fat and try to maintain 8% as long as possible and I think I'll be happy, atleast that's what I tell myself
I'll do like 50g oats + fatfree fairlife milk + scoop of protein like 1.5 hours before my workout on the days insulin is in, then intra workout I'll do orange juice + liquid egg whites + 10g glutamine +16g EAAas
Non insulin days I'll train fasted to lower blood glucose and increase insulin sensitivity, with some fasted cardio mixed in
Edit: also went back to doing my GH am + pm, rather than bolo pre workout
Didn't really notice much in terms of benefits with the BOLO pre workout dose, felt like the fat loss is better splitting it, plus doing it bolo pre workout just made me wicked tired after 4 hours. Splitting is much more manageable on lethargy. Was a fun experiment but I just want impressed
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Megadick3000
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No idea, this was some years ago and never pulled bloods on LR3IGF1
I did pull igf bloods on mk-677 though and had 30%+ above top end of reference range.
You lucky 6'3 guys around here. I'm 5'11, 215, ~9% BF so our builds sound similar. Our cycles and diet are also very similar it sounds like.
That doesn't sound like enough carbs for your relatively large insulin dose. But if it works, it works
I recently dropped GH entirely to see if my awful lethargy goes away. Had been dosing 18 IU before bed.
Cheers.
Intrepid
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Yeah i mean I'm doing around 12g carbs/iu at the moment (i drink a good bit of orange juice during my workout). Just tested my blood glucose when I got home--96 ng/dl, so i probably could even drop the carbs slightly more, but I think 96 is fine for the moment
Keep us updated on how you feel stopping the gh, if you notice worse recovery, reduction in water weight, etc. Etc
Xplicit
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Anyone interested in IGF LR3 should search Type IIs post history.
It does not need to be cycled. Doses need to be higher than you read online.
I personally use it similar to insulin. I view it as strong nutrient partioner, used on my off days from insulin before my biggest meal.
Im not one to subscribe to the notion that fats need to be avoided during insulin use, but if one does beleive that, you could view IGF LR3 as your option for fatty meals.
It does not need to be cycled. Doses need to be higher than you read online.
I personally use it similar to insulin. I view it as strong nutrient partioner, used on my off days from insulin before my biggest meal.
Im not one to subscribe to the notion that fats need to be avoided during insulin use, but if one does beleive that, you could view IGF LR3 as your option for fatty meals.
Intrepid
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it's actually an interesting perspective (using IGF1-LR3 when slins not in) because IGF1-lr3 seems to increase insulin sensitivity, reduce blood glucose, increase lipolysis and the mobilization and burning of free fatty acids.
I'd be lying if I said I didn't consider the protocol of 4 weeks of insulin, then taking a break, then doing a 4 week cycle of IGF1 to let insulin resistance reset, and to optimize insulin sensitivity again. I could see how your idea would work though if you only ran insulin 1-2x a week on your legs/back days, then the other days you use the IGF-1--like you said you might be able to run the IGF-1 longer than 4 weeks with this method. This is something I'll have to play with
what dosage of LR3 would you reccomend? i've seen anything from 50mcg to 200mcg, with timing ranging from pre workout to post workout
I think my plan at the moment (subject to change as i learn more) is to keep the gh in at 13.33iu/day split into 2 dosages am+pm, insulin on my leg and back days, then for the moment I'll probably do like 100mcg (?) pre workout for 4 weeks -- with the goal of the GH + insulin + IGF1-lr3 boosting systemic IGF reponse, then I'll have the tren reducing system IGF, and shuttling IGF into the muscles (thereby increasing local IGF)
