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Indian exports (hcg, primo)
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Rido
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That hucog is better.than expected good shit
T&H
Well-known Member
Thanks for testing! While I never plan to use those brands, it's good to see that you caught some serious underdosing issues.
HB_22
Well-known Member
Hehe I hope this is a joke. Only 3300 IU when package claims 10000 IU. Kinda disappointing.
That primo is a joke. I could understand something going wrong and ending up with maybe - 20% dose accuracy or whatever, but being off by 50% just looks like an intentionally rip off to me.
Rido
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Unfortunately I am dead srs. I would expect it to be 1/10 lol
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Deleted member 134759
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I’ve said this many times, UGLs consistently are closer to the target dosage than pharma. It’s kinda embarrassing a guy brewing in his girlfriend’s apartment can get better results than a GMP facility.
Thanks for testing.
Thanks for testing.
baxter0312
Member
The primo is an Indian UGL and the sustaviron is pharmacy grade
baxter0312
Member
HCG is something India produces themselves, everything else they import the raws for. Maybe that's the problem
Liska
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I'd guess it's more to do with the complexity and fragility of HCG itself since indian raws for Clen, Caber, Cialis, Modafinil etc. test just fine.
Even two HCG products that contain the same quantity as stated on the test report can differ significantly in quality, which you can discern from the raw data Janoshik provides for a few bucks extra. Whether this makes a practical difference for the user I've no idea but it's something to be aware of at least.
It's not that UGL can get closer to target dosage but that we have a financial incentive to try and get as close as possible rather than just within the 10% or so pharmacopeia standard deviation, whereas pharma companies may actually decrease profit margins if they devote additional resources to something that will not benefit their sales.
Beyond that, pharmaceutical manufacturers (which may produce several brands at once) differ in quality (albeit just within said pharmacopeia standards, as they do have to meet those at least) and we should strive to compile more information like Genotropin being far better than Cinnatropin despite both being pharma HGH, or an old batch of Sopharma Clenbuterol being significantly underdosed whereas the present batch seems correctly dosed etc. instead of blindly trusting that all pharma is g2g.
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Deleted member 134759
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Not sure how much they’d decrease profit margins lol. Pharma depot testosterone (generic) $147, UGL test c $20 lol
But I agree, it won’t change their sales to be within 5-10% because no customers are testing their medications
baxter0312
Member
I meant for hormones. I was asking someone with inside knowledge about why they don’t manufacture others as well and he said it’s a lack of technical knowledge of the synthesis or something
Thanks for testing bro. Also thanks for stepping up and sending in the India HCG. These guys keep trying to skate by saying samples are lost or never made it to Jano. If you’re paying $5-7 for a vial you can’t be shocked when it’s 1500iu and not 5000iu.
Liska
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Since their sales aren't direct to customer either, the only changes in manufacturing/formulation that'll catch ther interest are those that extend the length of a patent. Pharma Test E 250mg/ml in my country is made with either peanut or castor oil and plenty of benzyl benzoate so I've never been interested enough to send it for testing.
@SkankHunt It's not like they just misdosed it and that's a perfectly clean 1500iu either.
baxter0312
Member
No problem, if you’re going to continue to use a certain product it’s a no brainer to test at least one batch.
so if I’m paying $10 for 10k it’s still worth it by miles
The primo result is pretty damning and I have to think hard before I try Indian ugl again
The biggest problem with the primo is the fact that I’m now injecting twice the amount of oil and whatever the fuck these ugls use in it
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trengod1992
Well-known Member
A lot of the Indian ugls use arachis oil. It’s pretty thick
baxter0312
Member
I hope they’re not retarded enough to need to use EO to dissolve 50 mg of primo, I heard they like to use that.
HB_22
Well-known Member
Sure, but I dont see a reason to make it up dose-wise. Even 10$ for 3300IU is a good price. Why not put the correct dose on it, it will still sell and even more so if one random customer sends it in for a lab test and voila it came back as actually real 3300IU.
Correctly dosed hcg is kinda hard to source these days. I was lucky Liska had some.
Thanks for testing if I had evolve labs on my list that shit would be off my site pretty quick along with hucog iv never like premixed hcg it always felt weaker.... Pretty sure lypolized powder is a bit more stable..... The only premixed hcg I would be using is the Merck rdna ovetrelle pens 6500iu.
Anyways appreciate the testing uv done thanks for helping and supporting the community
baxter0312
Member
Yes , primo is banned in india but ugls can manufacture for export only
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