Intramuscular vials for subcutaneous Injection | Auto Pens

[bonfido]

Hello everyone,

My first post here and soon my very first cycle.

I'm 38 years old male. Currently 92kg with bodyfat of 11%. Healthy lifestyle and keen to do my first cycle to reach lean body close to 100kg.

I'm currently In Iran and would like to source my Testosterone Cypionate in here since it's a lot cheaper than UK.

I have few question which I hope the community could answer before I speak to my contact.

Intra Muscular Injection is the only way it's being administered in Iran as far as I know.

I'm going towards subcutaneous injection route based on research I've done.

My questions:

1)Is it possible to use the vials that clearly says ' For Intra Muscular Injection Only' for 'subcutaneous injection'? I believe the vials here are 200mg/ml.

2) Does it make a difference if I go for bigger vial like 2000mg? I'm going to carry them back to UK so rather have less vials.

3) I prefer to have an auto injector (click pen) Is there any way I can transfer the vial into auto injector pen ?

4) If q3 above is not possible, should I source 23- or 25-gauge 5/8-inch needle ? Is this the correct sizing?

5) I'm also sourcing Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and Triclozene (Clomiphene Citrate) and primobolan

I've done research on dosing. Will have blood test every 2 weeks and speaking to my doctor in the coming week.


Thank you for your help.

 

[mochul]

Is it possible to use the vials that clearly says ' For Intra Muscular Injection Only' for 'subcutaneous injection'? I believe the vials here are 200mg/ml

All testosterone injections are im but you can inject sub c. It only depends on needle length and where you are injecting. Insulin needles are used for sub c and are mostly injected in the belly fat.

You can better buy the needles in uk. It’s less risky than to bring them back and its legal in uk to buy it.

are you olanning on ugl primo? I have never seen pharma grade primo in Iran.

 

[lukiss96]

Point to note is that some people get lumps and possibly worse absorption of hormones doing sq vs im. I do fine, usually up to 0.5-0.6ml in a single injection using insulin syringes. I think for your first cycle stick with tradiniotal or old school method and do intramuscular injections, later on you naturally will want to experiment and then you try out sq.

 

[Jabroni_Meathead]

I subq all of my test/trt, primo, and NPP. Just keep the volume under 1ml and hit the butt cheek with a 1/2" 30 gauge needle. I never had issues over than a minor ache from the first 2-3 shots of NPP or Primo which for me is the standard PIP i get.

 

[MrUniverse]

Hello everyone,

My first post here and soon my very first cycle.

I'm 38 years old male. Currently 92kg with bodyfat of 11%. Healthy lifestyle and keen to do my first cycle to reach lean body close to 100kg.

I'm currently In Iran and would like to source my Testosterone Cypionate in here since it's a lot cheaper than UK.

I have few question which I hope the community could answer before I speak to my contact.

Intra Muscular Injection is the only way it's being administered in Iran as far as I know.

I'm going towards subcutaneous injection route based on research I've done.

My questions:

1)Is it possible to use the vials that clearly says ' For Intra Muscular Injection Only' for 'subcutaneous injection'? I believe the vials here are 200mg/ml.

2) Does it make a difference if I go for bigger vial like 2000mg? I'm going to carry them back to UK so rather have less vials.

3) I prefer to have an auto injector (click pen) Is there any way I can transfer the vial into auto injector pen ?

4) If q3 above is not possible, should I source 23- or 25-gauge 5/8-inch needle ? Is this the correct sizing?

5) I'm also sourcing Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and Triclozene (Clomiphene Citrate) and primobolan

I've done research on dosing. Will have blood test every 2 weeks and speaking to my doctor in the coming week.


Thank you for your help.

you can inject whatever you want, wherever you want, but as you wrote yourself you are using a product that clearly says 'For Intra Muscular Injection Only' for 'subcutaneous injection'....not the smartest thing you can do in my opinion personal opinion.
Lots of people do this, so I won't go any further. the choice is yours.

Just as it is your choice to cross the border carrying certain products with you.
I don't know the rules in the UK, I know that you are "more open" there, but the risk is yours... be well informed

 

[bonfido]

Thanks guys for all the input.
"All testosterone injections are im but you can inject sub c. It only depends on needle length and where you are injecting"

That's correct but It seems like Cypionate mixing oil is 'sesame seed oil' (denser) and enanthate is cotton seed oil.

Update: In Iran, I could only get enanthate direct from Pharmacy (without prescription). I ended up buying Cypionate from Bazar( Black market). Brought them home, tested the QR code and it came back as Counterfeit. Although 1000s of people are using them in Iran and get result, I didn't want to inject something that was made in underground lab in Thailand ( picture attached)

So I'm going back and buying enanthate from pharmacy. I'll ask what oil they use and if they can take order ( there are companies that can change mixing oil when you order Peptide in US)

Thanks for the tips not brining needles! I'll buy them back in UK

I'll experiment with different needles (within Subq) range and see how I'll respond.

I'll have doctor's prescription with me just in case with low Test lab result.

Does anyone know what oil Pharma in Europe use for their Subq Test injections? The private clinics are mostly prescribing subs injections. I'd be keen to know what oil they use.

Thanks

 

[rockyraccoon]

Thanks guys for all the input.
"All testosterone injections are im but you can inject sub c. It only depends on needle length and where you are injecting"

That's correct but It seems like Cypionate mixing oil is 'sesame seed oil' (denser) and enanthate is cotton seed oil.

Update: In Iran, I could only get enanthate direct from Pharmacy (without prescription). I ended up buying Cypionate from Bazar( Black market). Brought them home, tested the QR code and it came back as Counterfeit. Although 1000s of people are using them in Iran and get result, I didn't want to inject something that was made in underground lab in Thailand ( picture attached)

So I'm going back and buying enanthate from pharmacy. I'll ask what oil they use and if they can take order ( there are companies that can change mixing oil when you order Peptide in US)

Thanks for the tips not brining needles! I'll buy them back in UK

I'll experiment with different needles (within Subq) range and see how I'll respond.

I'll have doctor's prescription with me just in case with low Test lab result.

Does anyone know what oil Pharma in Europe use for their Subq Test injections? The private clinics are mostly prescribing subs injections. I'd be keen to know what oil they use.

Thanks

Xyosted uses sesame oil.

 

[mochul]

All test injection are done im. There is no alternative. What you bought isn’t pharma grade. You could better buy ugl stuff from uk.

 

[Zebedee]

So I'm going back and buying enanthate from pharmacy. I'll ask what oil they use and if they can take order ( there are companies that can change mixing oil when you order Peptide in US)

This customisation of meds is mainly an American thing because it’s only really the Yanks that view medication as a retail consumer item akin to asking Burger King to hold the mayo etc

You will not find any legitimate pharmacy in the UK knocking custom AAS blends to the customer’s request - in fact, you won’t find any compounding them period because there’s simply no need.

As for what carrier European / EU pharma brands use, that’s too broad a question really.

 

[bonfido]

All test injection are done im. There is no alternative. What you bought isn’t pharma grade. You could better buy ugl stuff from uk.

It's not. There are more and more clinics that are offering SubQ injections simply because not everyone can do IM injections themselves. Also research shows steady more frequent injection is alot better than weekly IM injections.

The issue is the old school always think the old way is the only right way. I rather have steady test rather than big swings from high dose of IMs

If for any reason my body rejects Subq, i'll opt in for IM for 12 weeks.

I didn't buy them. I'm buying Aburaihan pharma grade T from Pharmacy. £2 for 10 vials and it's as good as European brands.

تستوسترون انانتات | شرکت داروسازی ابوریحان

www.aburaihan.com

Thanks everyone for all your help.

 

[Jabroni_Meathead]

All test injection are done im. There is no alternative.

You are text book definition of ignorant. Stop commenting unless you educate yourself.

Testosterone Therapy With Subcutaneous Injections: A Safe, Practical, and Reasonable Option

Administration of testosterone ester via the SC route has been gaining popularity. To date, limited data suggest that SC administration of testosterone enanthate and cypionate results in stable and predictable on-treatment concentrations, has good acceptability among patients, and can be self-administered more easily than IM injections.

The main benefit of using the SC route for administration of testosterone esters over the traditional IM route is the ease of self-administration. In addition, there is no risk of sciatic injury, administration can be accomplished using smaller needles, and the pain evoked during SC administration is usually lower.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

All test injection are done im. There is no alternative. What you bought isn’t pharma grade. You could better buy ugl stuff from uk.

Time to learn something new today

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[Zebedee]

I didn't buy them. I'm buying Aburaihan pharma grade T from Pharmacy. £2 for 10 vials and it's as good as European brands.

Aburaihan is very viscous oil & you’ll probably have problems using it subq with 29g etc. I say probably as I’ve never tried doing that myself - hopefully an experienced subq guy can chime in here.

Regardless, there seems to be a consensus that it doesn’t contains BA / benzyl alcohol (an anti microbial preservative) either - a combination of being intended for single use & Iran’s strict Islamic laws. My point here being that it wouldn’t be wise to either transfer them into a sterile vial, nor preload into syringes of say 0.2ml for subq.

Consequently you’ll be best off pinning these IM, using the entire amp in one go.

It’s exceptionally smooth gear though. Leaving aside wobbly newbie injection technique, I don’t think I’ve ever come across anyone ever complaining about PIP from Aburaihan TE in over 20 years on forums.

 

[bonfido]

Aburaihan is very viscous oil & you’ll probably have problems using it subq with 29g etc. I say probably as I’ve never tried doing that myself - hopefully an experienced subq guy can chime in here.

Regardless, there seems to be a consensus that it doesn’t contains BA / benzyl alcohol (an anti microbial preservative) either - a combination of being intended for single use & Iran’s strict Islamic laws. My point here being that it wouldn’t be wise to either transfer them into a sterile vial, nor preload into syringes of say 0.2ml for subq.

Consequently you’ll be best off pinning these IM, using the entire amp in one go.

It’s exceptionally smooth gear though. Leaving aside wobbly newbie injection technique, I don’t think I’ve ever come across anyone ever complaining about PIP from Aburaihan TE in over 20 years on forums.

Thank you so much for this very thoughtful and professional response. I’ve since decided not to go for Iranian products as I’m determined to do subq injections. The issue is I can’t find a trustworthy source. Just wandering around I found a lot of good review from Napsgear org

Would you recommend buying from website or shall I just go and speak to the biggest guy in my gym ? I know it sounds very naive but I don’t see any other way since my T levels are normal for 38 years old (attached)

 

[Zebedee]

I’ve since decided not to go for Iranian products as I’m determined to do subq injections.

Why though, if I can ask?

As for sources - there’s one UK domestic advertising here & there’s a few who ship finished products to the UK - these all have decent feedback, so look at their threads for yourself & see what you think.

Whilst I don’t recommend sources, I will recommend you avoid Naps like the plague. He has a history of doxxing & threatening violence against people criticising him, which led to him being permanently banned from Meso after he did it on the forum.

 

[psauce]

Why not get enanthate from the pharmacy? It's essentially functionally equivalent to cyp, and pharma products reduce the risks associated with illicit products.

Common formulations can be delivered IM and SubQ. As long as it's an ester in a carrier oil with the common excipients, they can be used both ways.

 

[bonfido]

Why though, if I can ask?

As for sources - there’s one UK domestic advertising here & there’s a few who ship finished products to the UK - these all have decent feedback, so look at their threads for yourself & see what you think.

Whilst I don’t recommend sources, I will recommend you avoid Naps like the plague. He has a history of doxxing & threatening violence against people criticising him, which led to him being permanently banned from Meso after he did it on the forum.

Ijust not a big fan of IM. I want to inject every 3 1/2 days to get a consistent T levels.

I looked at the sponsors but sadly can’t find a way to buy from them. Do I have to contact them? since there is no online shopping. Sorry for my ignorance. I’d happily buy from sourced advertising in this website

 

[bonfido]

Just found my way around the website. Thank you everyone for the help. I’ll start my journey once I receive my items.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Just found my way around the website. Thank you everyone for the help. I’ll start my journey once I receive my items.

Glad it worked out for you, so far.

 

[Lifting88]

I subq all of my test/trt, primo, and NPP. Just keep the volume under 1ml and hit the butt cheek with a 1/2" 30 gauge needle. I never had issues over than a minor ache from the first 2-3 shots of NPP or Primo which for me is the standard PIP i get.

How many times per week you can hit same spot?

Because at 4/5ml per week i need to inject every day