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sir.bazyl

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I’ve read a lot about PCT and there’s just to many different point of views to choose a side, but definitely learned a lot new stuff.
My only question is if I could skip hcg(reason: My source doesn’t have it) and for pct will clomid and nolva alone help me fully recover after a cycle???
I went threw so many domestic sources and no one seems to have it. Only clomid and Nolva.

Cycle:
Weak 1/12 Test p - 100/150mg eod
Weak 1/8 tren a - 75/100mg eod
Weak 6/12 Anavar 50mg ed
Pct:
How many days after last pin???
Clomid: /50
Nolva:
 
Eman said:
It sounds like they don't have it because they don't have pharma PCT drugs. Beware of the clomid and Nolva you get from them...
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Thank you @Eman and you right it’s not pharma grade clom and nolva, but that’s all I have for now. I’m not in rush with my cycle, but it sucks to have it and not being able to start, because lack of PCT is stopping me. I looked in the underground and it looks like most sources are home brew made, so after what you told me, that’s not really helping my situation. Also I’m not comfortable with not domestic sources and those were the only ones that I found carrying pharma grade gear. I know there are domestic sources out there carrying what I need, but I’m not gonna ask for one, cuz I know the policy here and I respect it.
Again thank you for your advice @Eman I know you are very active here a I really value your opinion.
 
Northern Nutrition said:
Yes, you can still make a full recovery without hCG. But i advocate to use it on-cycle leading up to PCT for a variety of reasons.
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Thx @Northern Nutrition. I guess I will wait with my cycle until I get pharma grade HCG, Nolvadex and Clomid.
I also know there are two ways to use HCG. During your cycle and after. Witch one you prefere? I would appreciate as many opinions as possible.
 
sir.bazyl said:
Thank you @Eman and you right it’s not pharma grade clom and nolva, but that’s all I have for now. I’m not in rush with my cycle, but it sucks to have it and not being able to start, because lack of PCT is stopping me. I looked in the underground and it looks like most sources are home brew made, so after what you told me, that’s not really helping my situation. Also I’m not comfortable with not domestic sources and those were the only ones that I found carrying pharma grade gear. I know there are domestic sources out there carrying what I need, but I’m not gonna ask for one, cuz I know the policy here and I respect it.
Again thank you for your advice @Eman I know you are very active here a I really value your opinion.
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Finding domestic pharm grade used to be a little easier I think... A lot of the sources kind of dried up. There are still some floating around but I don't think you'll have much trouble with international. Most PCT drugs aren't controlled substances as far as I know... Not something to be particularly concerned about but it's okay to be cautious.
 
Eman said:
Finding domestic pharm grade used to be a little easier I think... A lot of the sources kind of dried up. There are still some floating around but I don't think you'll have much trouble with international. Most PCT drugs aren't controlled substances as far as I know... Not something to be particularly concerned about but it's okay to be cautious.
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Thanx. I’ll take that into consideration
 
sir.bazyl said:
I’ve read a lot about PCT and there’s just to many different point of views to choose a side, but definitely learned a lot new stuff.
My only question is if I could skip hcg(reason: My source doesn’t have it) and for pct will clomid and nolva alone help me fully recover after a cycle???
I went threw so many domestic sources and no one seems to have it. Only clomid and Nolva.

Cycle:
Weak 1/12 Test p - 100/150mg eod
Weak 1/8 tren a - 75/100mg eod
Weak 6/12 Anavar 50mg ed
Pct:
How many days after last pin???
Clomid: /50
Nolva:
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Clomid and Nolva may help restore pituitary LH and FSH
the problem is that testis can atrophy and won't respond to LH, FSH anymore
that's why HCG is needed: it prevents testis atrophy.
 
master.on said:
Clomid and Nolva may help restore pituitary LH and FSH
the problem is that testis can atrophy and won't respond to LH, FSH anymore
that's why HCG is needed: it prevents testis atrophy.
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That’s what I was afraid off. I’m not gonna lie, but I was hoping to hear that that clomid and nolvadex will do the job just fine but maybe slower. But in that case I will definitely wait with my cycle until I have HCG on hand. Thx @master.on
 
You can recover from one SERM in a lot of cases. I think two would be fine here. Might only warrant one.

What is your age and pre-cycle blood work look like?

IMO your clomid is too high and so is your nolva in the first two weeks.

mands
 
Eman said:
Finding domestic pharm grade used to be a little easier I think... A lot of the sources kind of dried up. There are still some floating around but I don't think you'll have much trouble with international. Most PCT drugs aren't controlled substances as far as I know... Not something to be particularly concerned about but it's okay to be cautious.
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Not trying to be a dick, but I thought pct drugs weren’t a controlled substance either. But I was just released due to possession of letrozole. Did 5 months behind letrozole. In the US anyway, they did eventually drop it to a misdemeanor though. I never post on here, just seen this and wanted to Let you know. Not trying to call you out or anything bro
 
sir.bazyl said:
if I could skip hcg(reason: My source doesn’t have it) and for pct will clomid and nolva alone help me fully recover after a cycle???
I went threw so many domestic sources
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You will notice testicular shrinkage if your cycle is too long. You should recuperate to a degree. Not as quickly. Your testicles will be dormant for the length of your cycle without hcg
 
There is no rest of the story. Anyway just trying to let anyone know that it is a felony possession in the US. I’m not ballin out of control and couldn’t bond out.
 
sir.bazyl said:
I’ve read a lot about PCT and there’s just to many different point of views to choose a side, but definitely learned a lot new stuff.
My only question is if I could skip hcg(reason: My source doesn’t have it) and for pct will clomid and nolva alone help me fully recover after a cycle???
I went threw so many domestic sources and no one seems to have it. Only clomid and Nolva.

Cycle:
Weak 1/12 Test p - 100/150mg eod
Weak 1/8 tren a - 75/100mg eod
Weak 6/12 Anavar 50mg ed
Pct:
How many days after last pin???
Clomid: /50
Nolva:
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This is your 1st cycle, not fully understand how a cycle or PCT works, and you're running Tren.. I'll wait for your "HELP" thread in the coming months.. should be a good read..
 
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