Is it possible to spoil one's brain with Clomid?

[Zero]

Honestly looking for a word of reassurance (or two). I'm two months after one pill of Clomid, morning woods are getting worse, have headaches, insomnia, morning anxiety, bitchy mood and I'm losing weight fast.

On the bright side libido is slowly creeping in again, same as erection strenght, flaccid hang is a bit better too and I'd recovered once in the past.

Should I just wait and relax, or try something like Tamox or preferably just vitamin D, ZMA and/or cardio? Let's say I forgot that Clomid was a big no for me, but what's done is done.

I'm sick and tired of all that shit and most of all stupidity of mine. Just having hard time now.

 

[Xlgx]

On your own or doc prescribed? Dosage? Age?

 

[Zero]

On my own, 40mg - precisely (3/4th), 32yo.

 

[Xlgx]

Why are you taking clomid? Did you have blood work done?

 

[Zero]

I was post-SSRI sufferer. Managed to restart my balls with time and Mianserin - best anabolic compound which I know. Sounds silly but lost it partially due to changes in diet and alcohol, however was happy and functional. I thought it would be nice to have a little boost in steroid hormones and put my balls on track again. That wasn't the case apparently.

Also I'm hypothyroid, switched diet again a month ago based on IgG labs, had leaky gut, seems like my intestine is healing insanely fast, now I'm on less than a half of my levothyroxine dosage, so this is a rollercoaster (unless some temporary thyreotoxicity). Morning wood, insomnia and anxiety are related, sometimes is good, sometimes bad, lately mostly bad especially in morning boner department. I guess thyroid stuff needs time to normalize.

Currently balls are around 50%-60%, definitely not utterly dead, flaccid 30%. I have no labs, although was hypogonadal 2 years ago.

 

[Xlgx]

I would def get blood work done to see where you're at. I am on dr prescribed clomid for trt. 50mg 3xw. It def has screwed with my mind. Def. more sensitive and emotional when on it.

 

[Zero]

Had raging boner this morning, so hopefully it will reverse.

Clomid is a vile drug imo, but overall it depends on brain endurance and personal neurobiology. SERMs, estradiol, testosterone is a one thing. Second is neurotransmitter balance heavily underestimated here. Clomid is definitely anxiogenic, it means it boost serotonin and consequently activates serotonin 5-HT2A/2C receptors in some cases, which is unwelcome. If you feel it's bad - it's bad.

Modulating estrogen receptor is like traveling Mars with bus stop on Jupiter in my case. Docs know shit and matter is complicated. Thinking about Clomid in narrow estradiol/testosterone department detached from the rest of the brain and body is a pure joke - now I know. Will never touch that stuff again.

 

[Wood4days]

Wonder if HCG would help?

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[Xlgx]

Wonder if HCG would help?

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Could be worth a shot. Have read some interesting things about hcg mono therapy

 

[Wood4days]

Could be worth a shot. Have read some interesting things about hcg mono therapy

I'm on HCG right now while on cycle. Works for me.

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[Xlgx]

On cycle is different. i was curious if one was to be using only hcg for trt purposes solely.

 

[Wood4days]

On cycle is different. i was curious if one was to be using only hcg for trt purposes solely.

When you're on trt you're injecting synthetic testosterone aren't you?

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[Xlgx]

When you're on trt you're injecting synthetic testosterone aren't you?

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Most of the time yes. However. Some are on clomid or hcg for trt purposes. I am on clomid for trt.

 

[Wood4days]

Most of the time yes. However. Some are on clomid or hcg for trt purposes. I am on clomid for trt.

I see

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[master.on]

Honestly looking for a word of reassurance (or two). I'm two months after one pill of Clomid, morning woods are getting worse, have headaches, insomnia, morning anxiety, bitchy mood and I'm losing weight fast.

On the bright side libido is slowly creeping in again, same as erection strenght, flaccid hang is a bit better too and I'd recovered once in the past.

Should I just wait and relax, or try something like Tamox or preferably just vitamin D, ZMA and/or cardio? Let's say I forgot that Clomid was a big no for me, but what's done is done.

I'm sick and tired of all that shit and most of all stupidity of mine. Just having hard time now.

Nolva is better than Clomid
Hormonal effects of an antiestrogen, tamoxifen, in normal and oligospermic men. - PubMed - NCBI
so ditch the Clomid

5 mg Nolva is enough to slowly rise libido
Effect of lower versus higher doses of tamoxifen on pituitary-gonadal function and sperm indices in oligozoospermic men. - PubMed - NCBI
at 5 mg you'll get little or no side effects

Too much SERMs no matter if Nolva or Clomid can kill libido and erections

So,
use Nolva 5 mg Every Day for 2 months
get bloodwork for
Free T
Total T
Estradiol
LH
FSH

If still low you may need HCG 100 IU pinned EVERY SINGLE DAY for proper recovery, much better than the "standard" 2x/week HCG use

Keep us posted

 

[Nicolaus]

What's everyone's thoughts on triptorlein?

 

[ironwill1951]

their is no way in hell that one clomid pill caused your problem.

 

[Dr JIM]

The ol' SSRI altered libido sufferer and what other psychological problems do you have?

For these folk every therapy is a brain drain and NOTHING works
just ask his Docs that don't know SHIT!

Waste of time esp on a damn PED/ Men's HEALTH forum GTGOOH!

 

[Dr JIM]

their is no way in hell that one clomid pill caused your problem.

Heck and to think he only LOOKED at that those pills, lol