Type-IIx
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I cannot help but think your complaints have a more psycho-social origin brother, but if I recall correctly it was you that I mentioned potential hypothyroidism to based on something I saw, does that sound familiar?Hm, maybe this is the reason why GH killed my sleep, a year ago when I used 4iu's and why hcg makes me more wired and elevates my rhr.
The story: A year ago I used 4.5iu's of GH to try and see if it helps me sleep. It helped a bit at first, although REM was crazy intense and real, but very quickly my sleep fragmented ad-nauseum, literary waking up every 20 mins. And it was not all anxiety related, rather, it felt totally mechanical (although it wasn't a good year and I probably had a dysregulated HPA). It slowly got better when I went off, but it never recovered to baseline. So for the past year's time I've been waking up app 10 to 20 times per night and for the love of god, after 4h of sleep I awake up hard, have to piss and all the sleep after that point is extra shallow (even if I don't get up to piss). Needles to say, the last year has been pushing my willingness to live ... I'm figuring this might be a subclinical hypothyroid issue which can also present it self with higher cortisol and messed up circadian cortisol clock (study).
My morning cortisol was always around 500, don't know where it is now, but on 2iu's of GH, my TSH is now at 3.5 (mIU/L), free T3 was at 4 (pmol/L) and free T4 at 10.5.
Would you care to comment on this? Would it be worth trying T4, as I see it lowers cortisol in hypothyroid patients. I also see that TSH levels in healthy population are closer to 1.5 and that the 0.5 - 4.5 range is kinda controversial; over 2 mIU/L is slowly starting to present with problems and over 3 mIU/L is already subclinical hypo (study). Idk if gilbert's also plays a significant role in this, but 400 -500 cortisol seemed high to me, when I had tsh around 2.5 - 3, back in the day before aas and gh ... Appreciate any thoughts on the matter, as this is the most serious issue I'm dealing with atm.
@HB_22 I remember you having a TSH over 5 but your sleep is better on GH right?
I think it might be worth getting a diagnosis (or having it ruled out) and, if indicated, a treatment plan (from a doctor) for that (rather than self-medicating).
Suffice it to say, these side effects you attribute to hCG (increased RHR, anxiety, profound libido) are just not even hinted at as even rare side effects in hCG literature.