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jackmeoff1 said:
Bitch, please. Can you not read. Dr Jim talks out his ass. I've exposed that already.
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Aside from the fact that you enjoy exposing men's asses (one shudders to imagine what typically follows), it is you who cannot read. Had you been able read those studies, you would realize that you had your ass handed to you. Your side brought nothing to that discussion except your own humiliation.
 
I'm really surprised BiggerBen hasn't chimed in on this thread.I know he consider's ceo a friend and has defended him before.
 
Boilermech said:
It hasn't been proven anything yet brother. We're waiting on @insertnamehere to get bloods done and another member talked about sending some off for testing.
So far just the labeling looks like it's real all the way down to the numbers stamped underneath the blue caps. But as far as testing we are still waiting so stay tuned brother.
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@Boilermech...that MS testing is a go. All boxed up and ready to send out. Should have reports back in ~2 weeks. I am happy to post the $400+ receipt for the gear & the $300+ receipt for the testing if any spineless keyboard warriors want to say I got the gear for free. Got that @irishman? That's real foldin' money... Not EBT points.
This is the first time I have had MS testing done. While the researchers credentials are impressive and he has absolutely no affiliation with the AAS community, I can't 100% guarantee the reports will include everything we need to make a determination... But I believe they will. Hoping someone with some Mass Spec experience will be willing to review the reports and confirm results before I post.
 
BigDave said:
@Boilermech...that MS testing is a go. All boxed up and ready to send out. Should have reports back in ~2 weeks. I am happy to post the $400+ receipt for the gear & the $300+ receipt for the testing if any spineless keyboard warriors want to say I got the gear for free. Got that @irishman? That's real foldin' money... Not EBT points.
This is the first time I have had MS testing done. While the researchers credentials are impressive and he has absolutely no affiliation with the AAS community, I can't 100% guarantee the reports will include everything we need to make a determination... But I believe they will. Hoping someone with some Mass Spec experience will be willing to review the reports and confirm results before I post.
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I've talked with @irishman through PM and apologized for cursing and in return he apologized to me for his accusations. But I really appreciate all of you that defended me. [emoji4]
 
Boilermech said:
I've talked with @irishman through PM and apologized for cursing and in return he apologized to me for his accusations. But I really appreciate all of you that defended me. [emoji4]
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Well I am happy to admit when I am being an asshole (which is pretty often). @irishman please disregard my last post and I apologize. We are cool as far as I am concerned if you guys have burried the hatchet. I think you can understand why this is a touchey subject. There is a lot of risk and expense in doing testing, & while we do it for our own benefit, we also do it for the benefit of our Meso brothers. When someone suggests that you are a shill and belittles the contribution, you can probably understand why that would make someone mad. I am over it and let's move on if that is cool with you.
 
I finally sent MS the bottle of CYP to test. It should arrive today. I have no idea if he will even posts it's numbers or not. I am not in close communication with him right now.
 
BigDave said:
I should have Mass Spec results early next week. First time I have used this lab, so I want to have a member here look over reports before I post to confirm everything was done correctly, but with any luck should be a few days.
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Great work BigDave and thank you for your efforts.
Can you post a link to your results here when they come through?
 
BigDave said:
Will do man. Hope the researcher does everything correctly and all is good to share. Fingers crossed.
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How high was the fill level you received on the Watson from DS? Any chance someone can compare the two?
 
KillaBig said:
I'm really surprised BiggerBen hasn't chimed in on this thread.I know he consider's ceo a friend and has defended him before.
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Just seeing this. What are my thoughts on DS or ceo supporting DS? After being part of a private discussion with some old timers on another board about DS I was curious about all the secrecy and talk of vets about the importance of protecting the identity of the man behind DS. The guys with great things to say about the guy left me with the impression that the guy is well respected.
I figured that i probably knew of the guy or heard of him or something. After going back and doing some research it turned out I had a discussion with him by pm at another board and the discussion was about Omnadren and a member saying the omnas were bunk.
The guy offered to send me some vials to do with as i wished but he was sure I'd know the gear wasn't bunk.
I will say this. The guy behind DS is well respected by staff and board owners that I know. He has been a source for many, many years and is looked upon as "Golden" by guys I trust. These guys are very concerned about protecting this guy and keeping him safe.
The guy is a long time member at a couple of boards i belong to and is a guy that lives the lifestyle, The last pics I saw of him has him looking half his age and ready to step on stage. He's endorsed by the right people, IMO.
 
biggerben69 said:
Just seeing this. What are my thoughts on DS or ceo supporting DS? After being part of a private discussion with some old timers on another board about DS I was curious about all the secrecy and talk of vets about the importance of protecting the identity of the man behind DS. The guys with great things to say about the guy left me with the impression that the guy is well respected.
I figured that i probably knew of the guy or heard of him or something. After going back and doing some research it turned out I had a discussion with him by pm at another board and the discussion was about Omnadren and a member saying the omnas were bunk.
The guy offered to send me some vials to do with as i wished but he was sure I'd know the gear wasn't bunk.
I will say this. The guy behind DS is well respected by staff and board owners that I know. He has been a source for many, many years and is looked upon as "Golden" by guys I trust. These guys are very concerned about protecting this guy and keeping him safe.
The guy is a long time member at a couple of boards i belong to and is a guy that lives the lifestyle, The last pics I saw of him has him looking half his age and ready to step on stage. He's endorsed by the right people, IMO.
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Ben,
I respect your words here, but we all have heard this song and dance before. I am not saying DS is bad guy or he sells bunk crap, but testing is the only way to validate his products. Words mean nothing now because so many bought from other people's words and got bunk. once again, I say this respectively to you and it is not directed at you.

I recall reading on IMF when DS first started there, a few members who have been around a while said his stuff was bunk. Those threads disappeared. For the most part, the things I have read have been positive. But you know as well as I, many people are shills for sources and they get kick backs on good products or dough or whatever. The integrity in this world is lost to the lowest and highest level. It is a shame that a small community like ours has to be like the rest of the world. But it is what it is.

I really think DS would do us and himself a service if he would let Dr. Jim or some independent lab test his different products. Watson included.
 
heady muscle said:
Ben,
I respect your words here, but we all have heard this song and dance before. I am not saying DS is bad guy or he sells bunk crap, but testing is the only way to validate his products. Words mean nothing now because so many bought from other people's words and got bunk. once again, I say this respectively to you and it is not directed at you.

I recall reading on IMF when DS first started there, a few members who have been around a while said his stuff was bunk. Those threads disappeared. For the most part, the things I have read have been positive. But you know as well as I, many people are shills for sources and they get kick backs on good products or dough or whatever. The integrity in this world is lost to the lowest and highest level. It is a shame that a small community like ours has to be like the rest of the world. But it is what it is.

I really think DS would do us and himself a service if he would let Dr. Jim or some independent lab test his different products. Watson included.
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The guy isn't a friend of mine but he's well known. I was under the impression he was a private and was surprised when i found out he was behind DS.
Going the direction that he did(public) he's opened his operation up to scrutiny and rightfully so. I guess I was trying to say is that it's not hard for me to believe ceo isn't getting kickbacks and truly is a good friend of the the man behind DS because I know who they guy is and know how favorably he is looked up by guys i respect.
In my last post i was talking about the discussion i was having with the guy before he became DS and was still a private source. He was trying to convince me that the omnadren he sold was legit. I still have very serious doubts that the Jelfa Omnas were genuine.
 
biggerben69 said:
The guy isn't a friend of mine but he's well known. I was under the impression he was a private and was surprised when i found out he was behind DS.
Going the direction that he did(public) he's opened his operation up to scrutiny and rightfully so. I guess I was trying to say is that it's not hard for me to believe ceo isn't getting kickbacks and truly is a good friend of the the man behind DS because I know who they guy is and know how favorably he is looked up by guys i respect.
In my last post i was talking about the discussion i was having with the guy before he became DS and was still a private source. He was trying to convince me that the omnadren he sold was legit. I still have very serious doubts that the Jelfa Omnas were genuine.
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Thanks Ben. I am glad we have many here on MESO that can get deep in the trenches and find some real info. Much appreciated!
 
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