Jano "The ultimate Con-man and Liar?" thread...You be the judge

[mands]

Perhaps for tax purposes you don't want to provide documented proof to the government that you are a credited lab or can't provide your tax receipts for proof because you are afraid of opening up a whole new scenario thats even worse.

So, they just gave it to him without proof? Just on his good word? Then called him back to bring it back? Do you even know how that sounds?

lol

mands

 

[Bradly]

some dense ass people in this fucking thread. it must be nice to have people so desperately wanting to believe in you.

Occam's razor (or Ockham's razor) is a principle from philosophy. Suppose there exist two explanations for an occurrence. In this case, the simpler one is usually better. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation is.

 

[mands]

Just to be clear, you are saying that Jano received notice of the package after customs opened the package and saw it contents. While customs opened the package, they did not disturb the contents to try and examine what was in there. Jano then never tried to get it out of customs(or never provided the necessary info), so after a certain amount of time customs deemed it as being refused and returned it to the sender.

This would also mean that although Jano knew that the package was being returned to a legitimate address, he decided to lie anyways and pretend that he was able to get it out and successfully test it.

Can you see where something just doesn't add up and make sense. I agree that Jano's version also leaves some sense not being totally logical, but it has been consistent from day 1. When somebody lies about something, they usually have subtle differences each time they tell the story so the facts seem to change. Here Jano has told the story to both of us in October and has retold it to buck, myself, and others 2 months later and the details are still exactly the same. Even the best liars in the world aren't that consistent.

To me its like looking at one of those trick pictures where if you look at it one way you see a totally different picture than if you look at it from a different way. I have yet to see any proof that anybody has lied throughout this whole ordeal. Mands, have you asked Jano at any time for the lab report?

He lied because he didn't think that I would get the pack back I'm assuming. IDK. Why do liars lie?

I have not directly asked Jano for the reports. Would of been the first thing I would have sent if I would have been in question or in his position. I didn't think I need to ask him for that reason only. If he was smart he would have sent them to me or posted them. Oh but wait nobody at MESO would believe him. Well, the one person at MESO that did believe in him or would have believed in him is ME. And if jacked that all up.

Did you ask him why he didn't send me the reports? Why aren't you asking him here? If you are being objective about the situation it surely doesn't show.

Do I need to paste the PM asking for three vials and how many he as going to test and how many he was going to have sent to another lab?

mands

 

[janoshik]

Perhaps for tax purposes you don't want to provide documented proof to the government that you are a credited lab or can't provide your tax receipts for proof because you are afraid of opening up a whole new scenario thats even worse.

Actually it's not that, but the officials disagreeing with my business strongly, as I'm bordering the grey area of the law, and throwing all kinds of possible obstacles in my way.

All sort of wonderful things from threats of charging me for importing for personal use, when a client sent me a full, untouched vial, to intent to manufacture, when I received a set of raws weighting about 1 gram each.

One they had opened the package and let me have the generic samples, but took the Pharma HGH under pretense (is that the correct word) that I don't own a license to import registered medicine...

 

[janoshik]

He lied because he didn't think that I would get the pack back I'm assuming. IDK. Why do liars lie?

I have not directly asked Jano for the reports. Would of been the first thing I would have sent if I would have been in question or in his position. I didn't think I need to ask him for that reason only. If he was smart he would have sent them to me or posted them. Oh but wait nobody at MESO would believe him. Well, the one person at MESO that did believe in him or would have believed in him is ME. And if jacked that all up.

Did you ask him why he didn't send me the reports? Why aren't you asking him here? If you are being objective about the situation it surely doesn't show.

Do I need to paste the PM asking for three vials and how many he as going to test and how many he was going to have sent to another lab?

mands

And what good would they be had I sent them to you the same minute I had tested them?

You literally asked me not to send you anything until I test those.

I have my reports on my lab computer. They have to be exported before sending.

I even fucking asked you for a shared desktop then, so I'd be able to show those to you.

 

[muscle96ss]

@muscle96ss do have archived in your chat that he told you that customs contacted him again about bringing it back or that he was out of town?


That's wrong he was supposed to test 2 vials and send one off? Who's getting confused now?

I stated all contents were present? I didn't say they hadn't been looked at or touched or whatever you want to say to make Jano look good in your eyes.

I taped the vials specifically in the coleman anniversary collectible first aid kit with two of the band-aids out of the that kit. The same two band-aids were still in tacked with three vials of batch #17.

So, I guess he had one laying around that he received from a source to test. I'm guessing he would have three more if he would of actually received them. Man he could start stock piling and selling gh on the side instead of testing them. Very nice!

He only has to remember two lies. One being that he was called by customs and the other his gf did the switch-a-roo. Not that difficult.

Also, he has tripped up. He stated he was charged when he picked the vials up(but he's a credited lab) and then he stated he was going to get charged if he didn't bring them back...

Tell me which one was it? And don't tell me two different charges or I will call you an idiot.

mands

I checked my archive and after our discussion on 10/25 we talked again briefly on the 28th, but of a completely different subject. We then did not talk via chat until last week 12/21.

 

[janoshik]

Also, he has tripped up. He stated he was charged when he picked the vials up(but he's a credited lab) and then he stated he was going to get charged if he didn't bring them back...

Tell me which one was it? And don't tell me two different charges or I will call you an idiot.

mands

They obviously can't charge me on spot.
I simplified it for m96ss in order to not go over a godfuckingdamn lengthy explanations over a chat.

...

So do you expect me to make M96SS my in-depth diary or what, you smartass?

 

[janoshik]

Also, mind the dates Mands.

Or don't.

Whatever.

 

[mands]

And what good would they be had I sent them to you the same minute I had tested them?

You literally asked me not to send you anything until I test those.

I have my reports on my lab computer. They have to be exported before sending.

I even fucking asked you for a shared desktop then, so I'd be able to show those to you.

Yes I told you not to send me anything until we were both ready to share results.

Then when I was ready I told told you I was ready in PM to post results. Mine were posted and yours were not. No confusion there. Still have not received any paperwork or analysis.

mands

 

[mercury]

to make things simple

can we just vote

Con-man or NOT

 

[Dr JIM]

Still have not received any paperwork or analysis.

mands

It seems you're confusing the evidence based analysis and correspondence that you and I are accustomed to receiving from OUR LAB

It's telling bc to this day, I've yet to see any evidence Jano has tested SQUAT!

If ANYONE has received ANY real time analytical material, data or evidence from Jano PLEASE POST IT!

 

[mands]

It seems you're confusing the evidence based analysis and correspondence that you and I are accustomed to receiving from OUR LAB

It's telling bc to this day, I've yet to see any evidence Jano has tested SQUAT!

If ANYONE has received ANY real time analytical material, data or evidence from Jano PLEASE POST IT!

@muscle96ss has some graphs that were sent. He might post them up

mands

 

[rpbb]

@muscle96ss has some graphs that were sent. He might post them up

mands

I didn't think he could, he always said that was part of the super secret property over at pm. Now I realize it's because they never tested anything

 

[MindlessWork]

No offense @mands, but why waste any more time with this Jano cat? He's so squirrelly with his posts and keeping so much from you that this whole thing has become one clusterfuck. Proper unbiased testing is something everyone looks for and when you deal with someone as shady as Jano-tard it just wastes all the hard work you been doing.

 

[muscle96ss]

Here is a chromatogram he has done on Humatrope. Jano will be posting the one he claims to have done on mands sample tomorrow. I am not sure that this proves anything other than Jano is capable of doing the tests. And I am sure some will even try and dispute that.

 

[mands]

Here is a chromatogram he has done on Humatrope. Jano will be posting the one he claims to have done on mands sample tomorrow. I am not sure that this proves anything other than Jano is capable of doing the tests. And I am sure some will even try and dispute that.View attachment 56131

One thing is this... I never questioned he didn't have access to testing.

Well of course they will dispute that. Why wouldn't they?

mands

 

[rpbb]

Here is a chromatogram he has done on Humatrope. Jano will be posting the one he claims to have done on mands sample tomorrow. I am not sure that this proves anything other than Jano is capable of doing the tests. And I am sure some will even try and dispute that.View attachment 56131

You can find anything on the internet

 

[Blender_of_blendz]

It seems you're confusing the evidence based analysis and correspondence that you and I are accustomed to receiving from OUR LAB

It's telling bc to this day, I've yet to see any evidence Jano has tested SQUAT!

If ANYONE has received ANY real time analytical material, data or evidence from Jano PLEASE POST IT!

You're a wacko jimmy Jim bob

 

[CdnGuy]

There is no need to add another 100 pages of a shit show, which is what always happens with no resolution and no progress made. So most of us have more important things to do with our time than play this stupid game.

Hey M96S guess this plan got thrown out the window huh? lol

You're a wacko jimmy Jim bob

Says the fucktard who just so happened to join Saturday with 2 post lol Good back to PM bitch !

 

[Dr JIM]

Hey M96S guess this plan got thrown out the window huh? lol


Says the fucktard who just so happened to join Saturday with 2 post lol Good back to PM bitch !

Why he/she has been "lurking" for years and decided to enlighten us with such vast fund of knowledge, LOL!

LMAO, another Meso TROLL who will depart shortly, they always do bc such clowns have NOTHING substantive to offer ………. even Jano!

Adios