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Jano "The ultimate Con-man and Liar?" thread...You be the judge
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How old are you,.MH?! Holy shit.
Why did he know the serostim vial? I thought they were all randomized with letters.
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Brolloks
New Member
That's the beauty of them continuing to talk, the lies get exposed
Too many levels of fail
That was the point.
Brolloks
New Member
Well....you definitely succeeded in failing. Congrats.
janoshik
Subscriber
Yes They were but they were identified...... and the identities will not be revealed again until results are in. no reason for it IMO.
a few reasons how, if ypou want ALL POssibilitys.1st if ya ever seen a Sero you remember them, they are unlike any generic at the time. and easy to identify. whether or not we identified them.
a pic was posted and through process of ilimitation ya can pick it out...
also Many wont believe this. but when the testin started and results started to come in, a Pharma grade HGH is easily identified by the tester with results. that tester was Mr. Jano.........
I asked this question and at the time thats how it was xplained.
But for the conspiracy guys i listed ALL possibilities....
Also keep in mind these were the samples goin to Simec in the pic posted.. the Jano samples contained a 4 mg. vial which has a different color top (which was never posted b/c we were waitin for last min. delivery.).
yes the Mistake was Mine I acquired both Pharma's . I said they were 6 mgs. the Jano sample was not.
so if we are head huntin, The Lie was mine. I said it was a 6 mg. sero thats is wat i was suppose to collect ...... the story is more involved but i wont bore ya wit da details and try to keep on topic, but this is related to Janos credibility and capability.... There is no Lie there....
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Considering all the evidence objectively, this seems to be the only viable explanation why anyone would continue to support Jano !
It's sad to see but it is what it is.
That is of course unless Jano is willing to post analytical data on level with what MANDS and I have cited on a regular basis, to ensure others KNOW our testing is LEGIT
Sdryx
Well-known Member
Previous history has no bearing on the current issue.
For wat ever reason .
Mr. Noswtteea4u asked a specific question.
I answered him the best I could.It is somewat connected to the topic.
Others are bringin up that Mr. Jano never tested anything.
I will tell you that is not the case.
Others seem to think it has bearin as they are bringin past history up...
If they want to go off topic and bring it up here, i will answer it as I had first hand xperience with it...
So quote Dr. Jim and the others on that comment.
Nothing you say matters, just another lying pm shill
But back to the thread topic, jano lied about testing mands gear, and you guys are trying to protect him, makes you liars as well. Go back to PM where all the noobs think you are awesome, and you're con game is acceptable, because here at meso, you're a joke
After following this thread from the beginning then taking a considerable amount of time last evening re reading the entire thread, the answer to whether Jano lied about testing the Seros is present in this thread - at least from my review.
Unfortunately numberous other friends or associates of Jano have also entered the discussion and raised issues outside of the scope of the threads intent - did Jano lie about testing the seros Mands sent. In doing so, it appears these other individuals are attempting to deflect attention away from the crux of the matter.
@rpbb
Thank you for keeping this thread on track and posting reminders of the real issue at hand.
I would recommend that anyone joining this thread and interested in who is telling the truth to read the entire thread from the start and come to your own conclusion. Your conclusion may differ.
However it is clear that a number of the voices involved, but not all, have a stake in the game - be it monetary or pride.
The issue of proper testing of AAS is increadebly important to the entire Meso, bodybuilding, streangth conditioning community from the standpoint of quality and safe product.
Unfortunately as long as profits are involved there will always be those individuals who push the limits of decency for a buck.
** there will also be misunderstandings, accidents, and difficult explanations that turn out to be true.
But as consumers of these products and members of this Forum, the only information we have to rely upon is what is presented to us here. Ultimatly It is up to us to do the work and read all the evidence presented, and then think, to be fully informed.
Unfortunately numberous other friends or associates of Jano have also entered the discussion and raised issues outside of the scope of the threads intent - did Jano lie about testing the seros Mands sent. In doing so, it appears these other individuals are attempting to deflect attention away from the crux of the matter.
@rpbb
Thank you for keeping this thread on track and posting reminders of the real issue at hand.
I would recommend that anyone joining this thread and interested in who is telling the truth to read the entire thread from the start and come to your own conclusion. Your conclusion may differ.
However it is clear that a number of the voices involved, but not all, have a stake in the game - be it monetary or pride.
The issue of proper testing of AAS is increadebly important to the entire Meso, bodybuilding, streangth conditioning community from the standpoint of quality and safe product.
Unfortunately as long as profits are involved there will always be those individuals who push the limits of decency for a buck.
** there will also be misunderstandings, accidents, and difficult explanations that turn out to be true.
But as consumers of these products and members of this Forum, the only information we have to rely upon is what is presented to us here. Ultimatly It is up to us to do the work and read all the evidence presented, and then think, to be fully informed.
muscle96ss
Subscriber
Nobody has attempted to deflect the issues to a scope outside the intent of this thread more than those attacking Jano. The issue here is about Jano and whether or not he lied to mands. This has nothing to do with PM or the testing performed at PM. This has nothing to do with any tests performed outside of the one performed for mands. In fact mands has already stated that he believes Jano has the equipment and capability to perform the tests.
Yet all we here is that Jano is a scammer and fakes the tests at PM. Not only has no proof been submitted to back this claim but I personally dealt directly with Jano in my role in the testing performed at PM and can gaurantee 100% there was no fraud, scam, or anything even the slightest bit unkosher that ever occurred. But in reading this thread, it is mentioned on almost every page that I am behind some scam at PM. And then to thank rpbb for keeping this thread on topic is ludicrous. He is the biggest cheerleader taking it off topic attacking those at PM and calling us scammers, shills, frauds, etc.. None of this has anything to do with the topic at hand.
What makes this even more funny is that you guys here are the ones deflecting the issue by refusing to answer pertinent questions and taking it off topic with your other accusations. Jano has been given a guilty sentence and asked to prove his innocence as opposed to innocent until proven guilty. He has provided his story which has been consistent and backed up by concrete evidence. Nobody has been able to post an explanation of what happened that makes sense. For instance, how did Jano know what batch number was in the package if he didn't have access to the contents. Why did he state that the package was seized to mands in late October if it wasn't? Why did he state that he got it out of customs if he didn't? What was his motive or what has he gained by this fake free test that was never made public? So why aren't the accusers required to provide a detailed explanation of their accusations and what they think transpired?
So how can you assume guilt when you the accuser hasn't even presented a case yet to explain the details. They have simply posted one aspect(the package was returned) and assumed guilt without accounting for any of the other aspects of the case. Thats the problem with Meso; everyone is assumed guilty until proven innocent. Not only is this not how things work, but no matter what proof is submitted, it is automatically discounted and negated, just like the conversation last night with CBS and rpbb.
So if the goal is to keep this on topic, lets make this about Jano and the situation with mands. Let leave PM and other testing Jano has done out of it as they are not the focus. Lets have the accusers ask pertinent questions and post what they think happened. Lets let Jano respond and have people actually answer his questions with straight answers. Can we all agree upon this?
janoshik
Subscriber
You've read it so carefully you think I've tested the Seros.
Oh well...
Yes, because Mands saying I have a drug problem, JIM bullshitting everything through, CBS being retarded... Jim claiming I can't have every tested anything, rpbb being a mentally handicapped parrot calling shills.
Totally not derailing at all.
And by numerous you mean M96ss? I'd say buck as well, but I think he's trying to not take any side.
Compare it to the number of retards calling me out on made up stuff.
But I guess you'd be happiest if it was me posting against lunatics ravings of 50 people at once, right?
Also how cool you mention Seros again. Proves how WELL you've read the topic.
Jesus Christ.
Why don't you thank him for derailing and calling everybody a shill and generally being just a pain in the ass which never made any real contribution anywhere?
lol
Yes, so they might even notice Mands was not talking about 'Seros' at all. lol
But other than that, good advice.
This sounds as if a different person had written it.
That's the paragraph I would stand past.
Sdryx
Well-known Member
Really?
Exhibit A:
Just an update for everyone here and at any other board @muscle96ss @Buck1973
I'm so pissed the package I had from them sending it back was thrown out in the trash. I have to apologize... haha Oh but wait. I took pics of it.
I decided to examine the pics and realized when you send to the another country they assign a new consignment code#. I tracked it and what do you think I found...?
Start from the bottom and work up
3.11.2016 The consignment was sent to the country of origin.
3.11.2016 Consignment posting number (reference code) assigned in the country of origin: CH*********US. Edited for safety.
2.11.2016 The consignment was sent back to the sender - refused acceptance by the addressee.
18.10.2016 Communication with the addressee about the consignment being deposited in interim warehouse - asked to prove the value of the goods.
18.10.2016 The consignment was deposited at post office of exchange.
17.10.2016 The consignment is being prepared for customs clearance.
17.10.2016 The consignment was accepted by post office of exchange.
13.10.2016 The consignment was sent to the Czech Republic.
11.10.2016 The consignment was posted.
As my one year old daughter would say, see you later bye bye.
mands
Exhibit B:
I already addressed this false logical reasoning of yours. It is an error in your thinking of logical deductions. We do not have to provide any explanation on Janos behalf. Just evidence that he has lied.
Case closed!
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Well I can't edit my post at this point, but you are correct that I erred in saying seros when the specific product is TPs black top -that's my bad. I should have stated TPs black specifically or just said "the HGH" in question.
Beyond that I'm not here for a Pissing match and the purpose of my post was to encourage people to read the entire thread and come to their own conclusion - I've come to mine ( at least with the evidence presented so far and the probability of the truth of various parties statements - given both what they said and what they may have to gain or loose ).
That all said, It is important to note that your version may very well be true and some folks may fall in that camp - crazy shit happens creating crazy sounding stories ( and I think everyone will agree that your version of the events is a little out there with customs possibly not releasing the package to you, then giving it to you bc you are a lab, then you holding the pack for a while before opening, then customs contacting you and saying the pack needed to be sent back or detained again after releasing it to you, then you happening to have another batch 17 of TP's black top, then opening and swapping the vials and at the same time not changing how the vials were packaged, and then sending the package back to mands)
It's a lot of fucking hoops to jump through. Could it be true? Sure, but it's not fucking likely.
So, I don't know what to tell you but your version of events is just difficult to believe. And if it is all true then I'm sorry you are catching all kinds of shit here but you have a difficult story to believe.
Beyond that I'm not here for a Pissing match and the purpose of my post was to encourage people to read the entire thread and come to their own conclusion - I've come to mine ( at least with the evidence presented so far and the probability of the truth of various parties statements - given both what they said and what they may have to gain or loose ).
That all said, It is important to note that your version may very well be true and some folks may fall in that camp - crazy shit happens creating crazy sounding stories ( and I think everyone will agree that your version of the events is a little out there with customs possibly not releasing the package to you, then giving it to you bc you are a lab, then you holding the pack for a while before opening, then customs contacting you and saying the pack needed to be sent back or detained again after releasing it to you, then you happening to have another batch 17 of TP's black top, then opening and swapping the vials and at the same time not changing how the vials were packaged, and then sending the package back to mands)
It's a lot of fucking hoops to jump through. Could it be true? Sure, but it's not fucking likely.
So, I don't know what to tell you but your version of events is just difficult to believe. And if it is all true then I'm sorry you are catching all kinds of shit here but you have a difficult story to believe.
Well
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