Jano "The ultimate Con-man and Liar?" thread...You be the judge

[PrideofNYC123]

Still waiting on Jano to describe how the package looked and what the first aid tin came in and how it was packaged. I have told you there are very specific things on how it was packed. I can't say more that that or I will give it away.

mands

This alone would more or less prove Jano's story but he keeps deflecting. You can't use the excuse that you get hundreds of packages bc how many of those did you pick up then have to repack, reseal and return to customs? It should be a package that stands out in your memory.

I don't doubt that Jano can and has tested products, but he clearly (imo) lied about this particular pack. Had he just told Mands that he didn't wanna pick up the pack then there never would have been a story, but he can't answer this simple question, which to me shows he never saw the pack. Even his gf should be able to describe it.


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[Brolloks]

I know you stated that the reason Jano was testing was because of his "business plan"; but in our original conversation that was not what was discussed. You were sending them to Jano to see how close the results were in comparison to Jim's AAA. You were sending 3 vials,

I agree that Jano's story does sound outlandish, but so does any other story presented here such as suggesting Jano refused the package or having the package seized and then being returned.

What's particularly odd is how Jano managed to test the sample if it was returned to mands in its original state. Still capped, I assume.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Sorry, I don't have any hidden information in regards to the sequence of events that transpired in this issue. What is hidden, however, is the facts from the accusers of what they are saying transpired. Nobody thus far has offered an explanation for how Jano knew the batch number of the contents of the package. In addition nobody has taken a clear position on what they think happened to the packaged that it ended up back with mands. Was it seized or was it refused? And what was the motive for someone who mands claims he believes has the equipment and capability of doing the testing; to fake a free test that he never made public?

So you can make your decision based on who you like and who is the popular crowd here on Meso; but if you want to make the corrct decision you need to look at the facts and understand ALL the facts of the case. People have a habit here at Meso of not looking at things objectively and automatically assuming all outsiders are scammers and poisonous. I have been in this position on several occasion before here at Meso where what I believe differs from what Jim and his followers believe. However, in the end, on each occasion I have been proven correct.

I know you stated that the reason Jano was testing was because of his "business plan"; but in our original conversation that was not what was discussed. You were sending them to Jano to see how close the results were in comparison to Jim's AAA. You were sending 3 vials, 1 for him to test, 1 for his colleague to test, and 1 you thought he was sending for another test. You asked me to have him waive his fees. So whatever "business plan" you guys came up with was not part of the original conversation. And I say you guys because you were obviously involved in it; so I wouldn't try to make it sound unkosher.

Secondly, rather than answer the questions that I posted and explain what you think transpired; you have instead deflected it back to Jano. Doesn't the accuser have to make its case first and establish what they are claiming happened first? The only thing that has been established is that the package came back to you opened with the contents appearing untampered.

I agree that Jano's story does sound outlandish, but so does any other story presented here such as suggesting Jano refused the package or having the package seized and then being returned.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

 

[CdnGuy]

Mands, I think everyone greatly respects your effort here. However, despite suggesting everyone make up their own mind in the title of this thread, you seem to be the main headhunter here.

Says the TROLL who was trying to give Godtropin "Matt" an alibi after he ripped everyone off here! Gtfoh clown!

Perhaps Matt will make it right, but he hasn't been around for a while. Test kits or not, we all ordered what we believed to be 240iu kits. He's admitted the lab fucked him and us, so it stands to reason that he'd feel obliged to make amends. But you never know with these UGLs...

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

This is the last time I will post in this thread.

Mands, watching MH's linguistic gymnastics is entertaining at first but quickly becomes exhausting, especially if you are attempting to have a productive discussion with the hope of arriving at the truth. It's not worth the aggravation.

MH loves to tell us about all that he's done for the "community" and how much credibility he has, although I find it hard to believe. However, if there are still any MH fence sitters, this thread should remove the last vestiges of doubt.

 

[Brolloks]

Says the TROLL who was trying to give Godtropin "Matt" an alibi after he ripped everyone off here! Gtfoh clown!

Like cockwork. At least I'm no longer on your shill list.

 

[rpbb]

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Muscle is just doing what he's paid to do

 

[muscle96ss]

Muscle is just doing what he's paid to do

Here we go off topic again, you can't even follow your own instructions moron.

 

[muscle96ss]

This alone would more or less prove Jano's story but he keeps deflecting. You can't use the excuse that you get hundreds of packages bc how many of those did you pick up then have to repack, reseal and return to customs? It should be a package that stands out in your memory.

I don't doubt that Jano can and has tested products, but he clearly (imo) lied about this particular pack. Had he just told Mands that he didn't wanna pick up the pack then there never would have been a story, but he can't answer this simple question, which to me shows he never saw the pack. Even his gf should be able to describe it.


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I think that is a fair request. However, on the other hand, please lend a credible explanation on how Jano would know the batch # of what was sent before mands or anyone revealed. But, if neither side can provide reasonable responses, then are we not at a stalemate? In other words Jano should be able to describe the package but he could not know the batch number without seeing the contents of the package either. Don't you agree?

 

[PrideofNYC123]

I think that is a fair request. However, on the other hand, please lend a credible explanation on how Jano would know the batch # of what was sent before mands or anyone revealed. But, if neither side can provide reasonable responses, then are we not at a stalemate? In other words Jano should be able to describe the package but he could not know the batch number without seeing the contents of the package either. Don't you agree?

I thought that was answered?


Jano "The ultimate Con-man and Liar?" thread...You be the judge

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[muscle96ss]

I thought that was answered?


Jano "The ultimate Con-man and Liar?" thread...You be the judge

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No, it was refuted. I posted about the conversation that TP had with Jano on 11/17 where he stated that he tested batch # 17 for mands and gave TP the results. TP asked for the raw data and Jano stated that mands said he didn't want it so he doesn't have it. There are more details and I offered to send mands the transcript of the conversation.

See here is the problem. There are many sideshows/private conversations where Jano's story has been confirmed and there is more to the whole transaction than really meets the eye. I have posted many of the details, but such as in this instance, most aren't paying attention. You can't really give the guy a fair shake if you don't know the full story. And as outlandish as Jano's story may sound, many aspects are backed up in the transcripts of the private conversations.

 

[rpbb]

No, it was refuted. I posted about the conversation that TP had with Jano on 11/17 where he stated that he tested batch # 17 for mands and gave TP the results. TP asked for the raw data and Jano stated that mands said he didn't want it so he doesn't have it. There are more details and I offered to send mands the transcript of the conversation.

See here is the problem. There are many sideshows/private conversations where Jano's story has been confirmed and there is more to the whole transaction than really meets the eye. I have posted many of the details, but such as in this instance, most aren't paying attention. You can't really give the guy a fair shake if you don't know the full story. And as outlandish as Jano's story may sound, many aspects are backed up in the transcripts of the private conversations.

Everyone is paying attention, you just think that if you keep blathering on endlessly, people will agree with you

 

[rpbb]

Here we go off topic again, you can't even follow your own instructions moron.

Who's the little spoon, you or buck?

 

[muscle96ss]

Who's the little spoon, you or buck?

I will let you know when I am done fucking your mom.

 

[rpbb]

Like cockwork. At least I'm no longer on your shill list.

Now you're on mine

 

[canadian mutant]

One simple question to answer 34 pages of verbal diarrhea.

What were the vials packed with. @jano and spokesman @muscle96ss

Its funny that Jano has went ghost when there's such a simple way to prove his story

 

[rpbb]

really doesn't matter, all the responses from muscle buck, and jano have been nothing but deflection and lies, with made up stories like jano cleared his hard drive of the test results and doesn't have them

just like to say how thankful I am to have this board, and be able to call out these shills and con artists. I wish they'd go back to pm, where the gtg bro mentality rules the day, and if you get called out as being a scammer, you are banned. that's where they belong

 

[PrideofNYC123]

No, it was refuted. I posted about the conversation that TP had with Jano on 11/17 where he stated that he tested batch # 17 for mands and gave TP the results. TP asked for the raw data and Jano stated that mands said he didn't want it so he doesn't have it. There are more details and I offered to send mands the transcript of the conversation.

See here is the problem. There are many sideshows/private conversations where Jano's story has been confirmed and there is more to the whole transaction than really meets the eye. I have posted many of the details, but such as in this instance, most aren't paying attention. You can't really give the guy a fair shake if you don't know the full story. And as outlandish as Jano's story may sound, many aspects are backed up in the transcripts of the private conversations.

I guess my questions are:

• Why did Jano tell TP the results 5 days before he told Mands? If TP sent #17s to Jano around the same time as Mand's, then one could assume they would be of the same batch(devil's advocate).
• If Jano tested #17s for TP, then he should have the raw data as I am sure TP requests it; where is it?
• Why did Jano assume Mand's didn't want the raw data? Mand's stated he never said that and it just doesn't make sense to not ask for it.
• Why can Jano not answer the simple questions about the pack?
• Why are you spending 10x the time and effort to defend Jano than he is himself?

 

[Docd187123]

I guess my questions are:

• Why did Jano tell TP the results 5 days before he told Mands? If TP sent #17s to Jano around the same time as Mand's, then one could assume they would be of the same batch(devil's advocate).
• If Jano tested #17s for TP, then he should have the raw data as I am sure TP requests it; where is it?
• Why did Jano assume Mand's didn't want the raw data? Mand's stated he never said that and it just doesn't make sense to not ask for it.
• Why can Jano not answer the simple questions about the pack?
• Why are you spending 10x the time and effort to defend Jano than he is himself?

That one is particularly telling.

 

[Wunderpus]

Just checking in to make sure everyone is still arguing, and no progress is made on either side.

Also, don't forget to support Jano guys: