Jano "The ultimate Con-man and Liar?" thread...You be the judge

[janoshik]

I guess my questions are:

• Why did Jano tell TP the results 5 days before he told Mands? If TP sent #17s to Jano around the same time as Mand's, then one could assume they would be of the same batch(devil's advocate).
• If Jano tested #17s for TP, then he should have the raw data as I am sure TP requests it; where is it?
• Why did Jano assume Mand's didn't want the raw data? Mand's stated he never said that and it just doesn't make sense to not ask for it.
• Why can Jano not answer the simple questions about the pack?
• Why are you spending 10x the time and effort to defend Jano than he is himself?

Those are questions, not opinions, am I wrong?

1. Have you missed the part when Mands specifically asked me not to reveal the results to him before he explicitly asks me to do so? Not sure what do you mean at all by the second sentence.

2. I did test a whole lot more samples than #17 and TP requests all the data along with it. If you expect me to post data of my customer up in public without his approval, you get a very wrong idea about how a business is done.

3. Because neither he nor JIM can interpret them and I believed he only wants the result for internal reference, to see if there is indeed something wrong with their testing. I have already stated this.

4. Why can't Mands answer simple questions aimed at him?

Why do I have to answer every question that suits arguments of those opposed and they don't have to answer any question of mine? Or well, SOME questions are answered, but only those that suit them.

5. Because I don't care enough about the opinions of this crowd and am busy enough to not waste my time here until I am bored or angry enough to post here again.

 

[janoshik]

That one is particularly telling.

About the lack of reading done?

 

[rpbb]

Those are questions, not opinions, am I wrong?

1. Have you missed the part when Mands specifically asked me not to reveal the results to him before he explicitly asks me to do so? Not sure what do you mean at all by the second sentence.

2. I did test a whole lot more samples than #17 and TP requests all the data along with it. If you expect me to post data of my customer up in public without his approval, you get a very wrong idea about how a business is done.

3. Because neither he nor JIM can interpret them and I believed he only wants the result for internal reference, to see if there is indeed something wrong with their testing. I have already stated this.

4. Why can't Mands answer simple questions aimed at him?

Why do I have to answer every question that suits arguments of those opposed and they don't have to answer any question of mine? Or well, SOME questions are answered, but only those that suit them.

5. Because I don't care enough about the opinions of this crowd and am busy enough to not waste my time here until I am bored or angry enough to post here again.

why can't you just admit you told mands you tested something when you didn't

 

[Docd187123]

About the lack of reading done?

About Muscle's extreme involvement.

 

[janoshik]

About Muscle's extreme involvement.

Oh, didn't notice the red text.

 

[PrideofNYC123]

Those are questions, not opinions, am I wrong?


2. I did test a whole lot more samples than #17 and TP requests all the data along with it. If you expect me to post data of my customer up in public without his approval, you get a very wrong idea about how a business is done.


4. Why can't Mands answer simple questions aimed at him?

Why do I have to answer every question that suits arguments of those opposed and they don't have to answer any question of mine? Or well, SOME questions are answered, but only those that suit them.

So we'll ask him. @tp2013 Can Jano post the raw data here for batch #17?

And another deflection..

 

[janoshik]

So we'll ask him. @tp2013 Can Jano post the raw data here for batch #17?

And another deflection..

Good luck with getting him on Meso, don't think he's coming back after the cun... err, people around here were rude to him.

Sayonara.



Also good luck with getting me to dance to your tune. I have lost my interest of here.

 

[insertnamehere]

Good luck with getting him on Meso, don't think he's coming back after the cun... err, people around here were rude to him.

Sayonara.



Also good luck with getting me to dance to your tune. I have lost my interest of here.

You refuse to answer a simple question that would most likely absolve you from the implication that you didn't test mands sample and now you've "lost interest" in being here. Give me a break. You never opened the packed sample otherwise you would be able to easily and succinctly answer this question without all the "dancing."

 

[rpbb]

Good luck with getting him on Meso, don't think he's coming back after the cun... err, people around here were rude to him.

Sayonara.



Also good luck with getting me to dance to your tune. I have lost my interest of here.

so as always, questions are asked of jano, he doesn't answer. I think that pretty much answers the title of the thread

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Also good luck with getting me to dance to your tune. I have lost my interest of here.

And there you have it. Jano CANNOT provide a description of the contents of Mands' package because he never received it.

Of course Muscles will be along shortly with another 3000 word essay that's designed to create doubt and confusion where none exists, but it won't matter. There is nothing MH can say that will take away from the fact that Jano can't describe the pack. It's over.

MH's advocating for a scammer like Jano is classic ProMuscle behavior, and that's why that forum is a cesspool of rogues, charlatans, swindlers, and undesirables, all working to pilfer hard earned money from its naive members. MH's credibility is worth about as much as Jano's and that's nothing.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

so as always, questions are asked of jano, he doesn't answer. I think that pretty much answers the title of the thread

Indeed. And Muscle backed this shyster. Eventually they will find out at ProMuscle and Muscle will have some 'splainin' to do. Unfortunately the mods will sweep it all under the rug and ban anyone that complains too loudly, and Muscle's "credibility" will come out mostly unscathed. Pathetic.

 

[PrideofNYC123]

Good luck with getting him on Meso, don't think he's coming back after the cun... err, people around here were rude to him.

Sayonara.



Also good luck with getting me to dance to your tune. I have lost my interest of here.

Done. Now @mands and @Dr JIM and @ProfessorX can have a look.

 

[Dr JIM]

Done. Now @mands and @Dr JIM and @ProfessorX can have a look.

And what am I supposed to have a look at? Another narrative "result" posted by Janeo
on PM without a lick of evidence based procedural data.

The latter is critical as a means of validating ANY analysis and is exactly why such information was routinely included in Mands and Jim assays.

And to that end, while some may state the results "are close to the same", the fact is nothing could be further from the truth, bc Mands and I have proven time and time again, we actually TESTED HGH, while Janoe most certainly HAS NOT!

Jim

 

[PrideofNYC123]

And what am I supposed to have a look at? Another narrative "result" posted by Janeo
on PM without a lick of evidence based graphic data.

The latter is critical as a means of validating ANY analysis and is exactly why such information was routinely included in Mands and Jim assays.

And to that end, some still state the results "are close to the same", NOT even close, bc Mands and I have proven time and time again, we actually TESTED HGH, while Janoe most certainly HAS NOT!

Jim

You missed the point.

TP gave Jano permission to post the raw data for batch 17 that he tested. I said you could review that if he posts it.


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[Dr JIM]

You missed the point.

TP gave Jano permission to post the raw data for batch 17 that he tested. I said you could review that if he posts it.


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Well thanks and maybe you have more clout with Jano than ALL other Meso members combined including "Mr Mands who Jano respects", but that FRAUD has been given multiple opportunities to cite procedural information yet has declined, period.

And there is only ONE reason for failing to do so, no such information exists and Janeo IS A FRAUD

Just review ALL the requests for procedural information that MH and Janeo posed to Mands and Myself and we posted IT ALL from the Calibration curve, the Blank, standards used, the RPHPLC manufacturers name and on and on.

BUT thats right PM analytical data is "NOT FOR PUBLIC DISCLOSURE" bc they don't have any, how convenient, LMAO

I appreciate your effort but it will be in vain, I GUARANTEE!

 

[Dr JIM]

About Muscle's extreme involvement.

I don't care what MH contends bc IMO it's now blatantly clear he does indeed have a vested interest in the GH being sold on PM.

In other words he's a SHILL, for one if not several generic GH manufactures, the most likely candidate being "GREYS".

The latter is based upon several FACTS but in this instance how vehemently MH defended Greys and still contends our quantitative results are in error, in spite of the fact he has yet to cite any legitimate evidence to the contrary ----------- except what the Chinese "manufactures" have told him, LOL

 

[Dr JIM]

why can't you just admit you told mands you tested something when you didn't

Now you know that a slippery slope, bc if he didn't tests MANDs sample how many others did Janeo "overlook"?

And my answer or belief based on the EVIDENCE before us, for what it's worth, CLOSE TO ALL, as I sincerely doubt Janeo has tested much of anything, especially GH!

 

[muscle96ss]

I don't care what MH contends bc IMO it's now blatantly clear he does indeed have a vested interest in the GH being sold on PM.

In other words he's a SHILL, for one if not several generic GH manufactures, the most likely candidate being "GREYS".

The latter is based upon several FACTS but in this instance how vehemently MH defended Greys and still contends our quantitative results are in error, in spite of the fact he has yet to cite any legitimate evidence to the contrary ----------- except what the Chinese "manufactures" have told him, LOL

You still have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Its funny, you have 3 endeavors in GH testing thus far and everyone has been a failure thus far. Thus far you have demonstrated that even pharmaceutical GH is severley underdosed. You have used Karl's GH as a standard claiming it was Humatrope(after saying you should be using a real standard and pharm GH doesn't qualify) and then made nothing but excuses when your results are way off(like trying to convince us that the Serostim sample was a countefeit).

You always come back to attacking PM and myself as a means to deflect the subject and take the spotlight off your 3 failures in testing. Isn't it ironic how Janos supposed fake tests are actually closer to the correct results than your tests have ever been.

Whats even more funny is that the grey tops are actually manufactured by a legit pharmaceutical company and there is about as good a chance of them being underdosed as Serostim or Genotropin(Oh wait, according to your tests they are even more underdosed than the greys, lol).

So keep talking about shit you know absolutely nothing at all. Your goal supposedly is to clean up the community but instead you only confuse people more and steer them away from the few legit brands. Whats sad is that you actually believe your tests are accurate.

You claim to be a real doctor in life. A real doctor cannot be this stupid and does not treat people or act the way you do. If you acted this way in real life, you would have no patients and tons of complaints against your medical license for talking down to people and acting like a jackass. Maybe you really are a nice guy in person, but then why come on here and act like a stubborn know-it-all instead of real human being.

 

[muscle96ss]

Now you know that a slippery slope, bc if he didn't tests MANDs sample how many others did Janeo "overlook"?

And my answer or belief based on the EVIDENCE before us, for what it's worth, CLOSE TO ALL, as I sincerely doubt Janeo has tested much of anything, especially GH!

You know nothing about real GH testing so you are not qualified to make this judgement. In fact you used to ridicule people who took Chinese GH saying that they did not know how to produce real GH and it was all peptides tricking us with the same side effects. Do you remember, that was only a couple years ago? How wrong you were, but you will never admit it, will you? The fact is I have been right every time and you have been wrong every time. But what do I know, I am just a paid shill.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

The fact is I have been right every time and you have been wrong every time.

Lmfao. You're delusional now, MH. I haven't seen you succeed at anything other than obfuscation.

Why no comment about your boy not being able to describe the contents of Mands' pack? Total silence from you. Pretty hard to spin that one, wasn't it?

But what do I know, I am just a paid shill.

That is obvious to everyone now. You made a big mistake by hitching your wagon to Jano. He doesn't have your experience and he took you down with him. I'm actually surprised you were that reckless. I guess you've learned that ProMuscle can make everything disappear eventually, even your shattered credibility.

EDIT: Here comes the 3000 word essay.