janoshik
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Do you mean the situation when we called out ChemClarity for an unsustainable fraud?
We are sure a few members, particularly Mr. Baker, might recall ChemClarity as well.
Feel free to take up the issue with him as well.
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We are sure a few members, particularly Mr. Baker, might recall ChemClarity as well.
Feel free to take up the issue with him as well.
It's what he does. It's his MO. His aggressive behavior is a compensation for something...
mands
MisterSuperGod
Well-known Member
According to you, everyone is a fraud, except you.
What kinda fantasy world do you live in and how does one go about signing up to live in such bliss?
Your post shows Jano has a history on other forums as well so that does really reflects badly on him.
janoshik
Subscriber
It's what he does. It's his MO. His aggressive behavior is a compensation for something...
mands
We suggest that you try out and enjoy the reliable services of ChemClarity then.
We are sure your findings and reviews would help the community a big deal, so we cannot see a reason keeping you from helping the community find a reliable source of analyses.
Den84
Well-known Member
I’m on ukmuscle, since 2 years, and janoshik he has never been registered in that forum, I enter in that forum every day , so I’m sure of what I say. surely you're confusing With chemclarity.. another lab for testing aas, definitely dead
James Steph
New Member
I know of a few reliable sources but testing isn’t so simple. It’s expensive to set up and there are usually laws that prevent real laboratories from testing products for people privately, especially for people overseas. Break those laws and risk losing your license. No license, no business.
I’m not trying to be contentious mate. I think testing is a smart idea. I don’t agree with shady operations though.
If I recall, he posted an absolute essay when that other testing faculty was open just to discredit them. The whole thread seems to have been removed.
janoshik
Subscriber
And did our assessment of ability of ChemClarity turn out to be wrong?
We are honestly asking, because we have made that assessment before they had started providing the service, if we recall properly.
Last time we heard they were getting vastly different results from SIMEC, Chemtox and us on the very same samples and then disappeared
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Sdryx
Well-known Member
You’re still a liar. Go away.
James Steph
New Member
I’d need to know what your assessment was before I possibly could comment.
I actually met two of the guys that set ChemClarity up at a public evidence gathering day held in London by the ACMD (Advisory Council for the Misuse of Drugs).
From what I understand, it was partially publically funded and had a lot of support from public health figures here in the UK. Their biggest challenge was the community. It was incredibly easy for people to send samples and use the results to push their own agenda. Actually, the type of shady behaviour that you’re accused of. The minority ruining it for the majority.
I’m not sure what became of the project. Probably wasn’t worth the hassle. Retail and laboratoy work obviously has it’s challenges.
janoshik
Subscriber
Is there any evidence for that?
There are certain requirements for publicly funded projects in UK and whole European Union, one of them being public access to certain data.
ChemClarity most definitely did not meet those requirements, therefore we find if very unlikely that they were publicly funded.
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James Steph
New Member
You would have to ask them for evidence. I’m just giving you my point of view after speaking to some of the people involved.
Stating that the company definitely didn’t meet the requirements is a foolish thing to say without knowing more about that particular project.
I don’t pretend to know anymore, neither should you.
Den84
Well-known Member
Chemclarity turned out to be totally unreliable, I remember that many unlikely results were out, absurd overdoses on the most expensive molecules, and the results often not in line with other more popular laboratories. It's better that they disappeared
James Steph
New Member
I appreciate that’s the opinion some people have, and for all I know it’s true, but also see it another way.
A company arrived on the scene and it was met with a lot of hostility from people like Janoshik and underground laboratories that had something to fear.
It’s incredibly easy to make a company like that look bad and influence peoples opinion. For example, I could send three different samples to three companies and claim one of them is unreliable.
What the community doesn’t seem to really grasp is that testing is a very personal thing. You can’t rely on another persons results.
It’s a shame. It would be nice to have a solution to the problem. I’m just not sure what it is.
janoshik
Subscriber
You are mistaken and rude needlessly again.
We did indeed inquire extensively.
It is you who knows very little about the situation, Sir.
And we agree that it indeed is very foolish to keep talking when one knows as little about the situation as you do.
Fearing ChemClarity is another nonsense you sprout out without any support. Why would we be worried about UK only company when we do less than 1% business with UK and never did more?
Rockclimber
Well-known Member
This company is really just spinning its wheels here. It's amazing to me the difference between American capitalists and European or Asian capitalists. Our cultures are so different! Having been an American business owner for my entire life I'm going to give you some free unsolicited advice.
In America a 50% off sale is used by an established credible company trying to obtain additional business by the use of a flash sale that is temporary. The key here is a credible known business like a car company doing a Memorial Day sale. If you are in the market for a new Ford this sort of sale will get you off the couch and into the dealership to purchase one.
You on the other hand are not an established credible business. In fact you are a well-known non credible business which is even worse than an unknown business starting fresh. An unknown business starting with a 50% off sale is a good way to attract new customers that are hesitant to try the product. Many of these companies even offer a 30-day free trial to obtain the initial business needed.
Since you are a well-known non credible business a 50% off sale is just 50% off dog shit, no one would even take free dogshit so 50% off is even a worse deal.
The only way you could possibly rebuild credibility at this point is to offer free testing in certain situations for certain amount of time which allows other people to verify your results against other known results. A particular example of this would be the Alibaba growth hormone thread. Free testing for the top six samples would gain you perhaps 20% or 30% credibility with the members here. That would then allow you to obtain 20 clients out of 100 members who are interested in your business. Provide correct analysis for those additional 20 members and you obtain 50% credibility and on and on until perhaps you obtain a moderate level of credibility on here. Do not be fooled though, this will take years of work on your part.
If you are interested in this moderate amount of branding rebuilding you can contact the members in the Alibaba thread for free analysis and perhaps you can work from there however arguing back and forth in this thread with a 50% off sale is not doing you any good.
In America a 50% off sale is used by an established credible company trying to obtain additional business by the use of a flash sale that is temporary. The key here is a credible known business like a car company doing a Memorial Day sale. If you are in the market for a new Ford this sort of sale will get you off the couch and into the dealership to purchase one.
You on the other hand are not an established credible business. In fact you are a well-known non credible business which is even worse than an unknown business starting fresh. An unknown business starting with a 50% off sale is a good way to attract new customers that are hesitant to try the product. Many of these companies even offer a 30-day free trial to obtain the initial business needed.
Since you are a well-known non credible business a 50% off sale is just 50% off dog shit, no one would even take free dogshit so 50% off is even a worse deal.
The only way you could possibly rebuild credibility at this point is to offer free testing in certain situations for certain amount of time which allows other people to verify your results against other known results. A particular example of this would be the Alibaba growth hormone thread. Free testing for the top six samples would gain you perhaps 20% or 30% credibility with the members here. That would then allow you to obtain 20 clients out of 100 members who are interested in your business. Provide correct analysis for those additional 20 members and you obtain 50% credibility and on and on until perhaps you obtain a moderate level of credibility on here. Do not be fooled though, this will take years of work on your part.
If you are interested in this moderate amount of branding rebuilding you can contact the members in the Alibaba thread for free analysis and perhaps you can work from there however arguing back and forth in this thread with a 50% off sale is not doing you any good.
movingiron88
Member
God dammit @janoshik if you could only learn to be a businessman and shut your mouth a little you could have gone far. You seem very intellgent but your relations make everyone hate you.
Dohn joe
Member
I was going to make the same comment. If you believe in your business then let it do the spaking instead of bashing everyone and aggressively attacking anything said against you.
You messed up here Jano, deal with it. Just dont be a dick about it if you want any kind of foothold with anyone.
cflow69
Subscriber
@janoshik . I have a few samples to be tested. How about u do the meso community a favor Let me send u 2 samples marked samples A and samples B. You test them for free . I just pay for the shipping . Let's see if u can hammer the nail straight on the head before anyone uses your services ? Not saying anyone will actually use your services but this may be a good start ?
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