Just a thought on a cycle

[MediorceLife]

a random ignorant cycle that I want you polite professional gentlemen’s opinions on.

WEEK 1-15 TEST C 500MG/WEEK
WEEK 1-15 DECA 500MG/WEEK
WEEK 1-4 or possible 1-6 DBOL 50MG/DAY

(it is specifically 15 weeks because for both deca and test that’s all I have if I were to dose at 500mg; no pct since I am on 200mg trt a week)

anastrozole for estrogen
caber for prolactin



one main question I have due to this being my first 19nor, how will I know when to take caber and how to dose? do I do split dosages twice a week? one dose a week? when to actually start taking it? from the start or wait till I feel “prolactin” side effects then start?

thanks a lot for any feedback. also criticize the cycle as much as you can so I can change anything as needed, I didn’t list all my other ancillaries such as liver support, lipid support, etc.



EDIT: actually I am going to list my ancillaries.

LIV52 or any milk thistle supp; for liver support
Citrus Bergamot for lipids
Bayer Low dose for hypertension
COQ10 for cardio

I hear people say that tudca is important but haven’t decided to add it. If I need to, please let me know.

I don’t think I missed anything but if I have, I’ll add a reply, also I will be on finasteride and minoxidil to counteract the hair loss.

 

[timfino]

Have you done any cycles outside of your TRT? What are your goals? Age, weight, lifestyle? These are pivotal little details that can help assist in seeing what you might actually need or are missing..
If this is just a first cycle though, 500mg test/weekly is moreee than enough. No need to add any compounds yet, and certainly don't need any orals.

 

[Drex]

I like the option of adding more testosterone in combination with deca, if you use 500mg deca, I would choose 700mg testo or 300deca and 500 testo.

To avoid side effects for the nandrolone, is important cover all the roads:
- For cover androgenic part is good option to add dht derivates like masteron or mesterolone
- For cover the prolactine: cabergoline
- For estrogen part: tamoxifen or raloxifene
- Maybe IAs type exemestane, if the stradiol or estrone are with high level

And with this protocol you will be able to control all the ways to avoid possible future problems.

But the best important thing is that you are going to make blood tests before, during and after of the roid cycle for checking the different alterations and when it is necessary to resolve

 

[Drex]

LIV52 or any milk thistle supp; for liver support
Citrus Bergamot for lipids
Bayer Low dose for hypertension
COQ10 for cardio

I prefer to use TUDCA and NAC, they are more tested and more effectives than LIV52 for cleaning the liver.
You can use astragalus for your kedneys, maybe you dont need to use telmisartan
Coq10 is good option, but I prefer niacine with omega 3 acids

 

[Isrrike]

Run the test 2 weeks longer

 

[DECLAN]

a random ignorant cycle that I want you polite professional gentlemen’s opinions on.

WEEK 1-15 TEST C 500MG/WEEK
WEEK 1-15 DECA 500MG/WEEK
WEEK 1-4 or possible 1-6 DBOL 50MG/DAY

(it is specifically 15 weeks because for both deca and test that’s all I have if I were to dose at 500mg; no pct since I am on 200mg trt a week)

anastrozole for estrogen
caber for prolactin



one main question I have due to this being my first 19nor, how will I know when to take caber and how to dose? do I do split dosages twice a week? one dose a week? when to actually start taking it? from the start or wait till I feel “prolactin” side effects then start?

thanks a lot for any feedback. also criticize the cycle as much as you can so I can change anything as needed, I didn’t list all my other ancillaries such as liver support, lipid support, etc.



EDIT: actually I am going to list my ancillaries.

LIV52 or any milk thistle supp; for liver support
Citrus Bergamot for lipids
Bayer Low dose for hypertension
COQ10 for cardio

I hear people say that tudca is important but haven’t decided to add it. If I need to, please let me know.

I don’t think I missed anything but if I have, I’ll add a reply, also I will be on finasteride and minoxidil to counteract the hair loss.

If it's your first time on 19-nors, get bloodwork to see your estrogen and prolactin levels. So many gymbros just taking ais just as preemptive strike to non-existing elevations, which causes other problems especially caber.

High prolactin is apparently rare but estrogen related symptoms is more common to watch out for; thus, the need for bloodwork mid cycle if you have no experience on how to catch the symptoms by feels yet.

Listen to the sensible advices here, if you have to take it slow to avoid unnecessary risks do it. If it takes you more time and cycles before you need any other compound then so be it, it's not like the pro card is knocking at your doorstep.

Good luck.

 

[Laxbro88]

I would not use dbol, your asking for estrogen issues with nandrolone. Personally I would add in a DHT like Primobolan or masteron as a 3rd anabolic for the duration of the cycle over using dbol.

But that’s me, I really dislike dbol in bodybuilding, just feel there are better avenues to pursue anabolic wise.

 

[Black90tsi]

I wouldn't suggest you start 500/500 right off the bat. Plenty of guys have high e2 issues running a 1:1 test:deca ratio. Consider starting at a 2:1 ratio and slowly titrate up every few weeks with your deca.

Also make sure you get your blood work done. That's how you're going to know for sure is you have e2 or prolactin issues. Without the hard data you're just kind of guessing at issues based on symptoms. I absolutely had high e2 when running 350t/175d. After that experience i wouldn't dare try to run a 1:1 ratio.

 

[Stanabolic]

What ancillaries for low dose deca on trt 150mg a week?

 

[Sector]

What ancillaries for low dose deca on trt 150mg a week?

Just an AI and you should be good.

Keeping caber/pramiplexole on hand wouldn't hurt either but I doubt you'll have a lot of estrogen related side effects at this dosage, and prolactin side effects are positively correlated with high estrogen, so if your estrogen is in check you probably won't have prolactin side effects. Still though, good to have caber/prami just incase. I'd recommend caber over pramiplexole though, prami is God awful, and really fucked up my sleep

 

[Stanabolic]

Thanks much appreciated!