Karius - ALP / BAL Lists -

[mmmiron]

I guess the point some of us are making about the protocols is that whether they make sense or not, the protocols are set by each source, and as consumers we get to decide whether or not to do business with that source.

Show me a source that has lasted a decade, and I'll show you a source whose protocols I trust more than the less established ugl's who take the path of less resistance (because they are more in need of pleasing the customer).
If your protocols have helped you survive Gear Grinder, ORD, etc - and you have avoided being taken down for a decade - I feel safer following your protocols.

Again, a choice each of us have.

Oh I completely agree! If they take that much caution I feel like I'm safer dealing with them. When sources pop up begging for customer it sends me the wrong vibe. If a source isn't safe with their info they definitely aren't safe with yours. I just don't see the issue with following a few simple rules.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Same thing, I never said you were lying or didnt get bunk shit. I'm just telling you how shits handled on adult boards.

And what boards would those be? The one owned by the source in question? LMFAO

And drop the condescension. I haven't seen anything in your posts that would warrant that elitist attitude you have. Not even close.

If you plan on living like this the rest of your life , carry on Brotha. For your name sake I hope you're right because if no one else complains and things get tested out as legit it's going to be hard for you to come back from.

Oh, BULLSHIT! You're a shill and you're doing alright, aren't you? Gimme a fucking break.

I think you've already started to realize that. Maybe you guys are so used to scamming this is your natural reaction , like I said it doesnt fly on most forums.

The only thing anyone realized here is that you have a vested interest in this source. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, puts as much time and effort into defending a source as you have done with K, unless they're getting something in return or they're a dick rider.

And I don't give a flying fuck what "flies on most forums." Especially a censored forum.

If you take a problem like this to a good guy like ALP or Mike, he will make it right and pull the items in question, shit happens. How in the blue fuck do you think they've been around longer than most of you are alive?

I don't know. Alin and Z have been around forever too. How do they do it? I suspect with the assistance of shills and fan boys, just like everyone else.

. Fuck sake even Pfizer and Merck recall products ya fuckin knotheads. Its how you handle yourself Brutus that matters. Like I said I think you already know this

When Pfizer fucks up, it's how THEY handle themselves that determines how things play out. The customer has sweet fuck all to do with it. If K had been testing his raws like he said, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Considering the fact that he is now sending gear for testing proves conclusively that it was NEVER tested previously. If it had been, he'd produce those test results. Too bad YOU don't already know this. Or maybe you do...

CBS

 

[whodatnation]

CBS, as always you find a great way to hammer your points home. The proof is in the pudding with sources actually testing their raws on a consistent basis. It just isn't happening and for anyone to blindly get on here or anywhere for that matter and defend a source getting raws from China is just foolish and shows a fundamental lack of intelligence.

There is no doubt that Karius does not intentionally do this and seems he fell victim to complacency and believing his supplier would never sell him bunk shit.The fact remains that it is up to us ( the consumer ) to continue testing everything that you come into contact with. Eventually with more and more testing and companies losing sells and then China raw suppliers losing sells the tide will turn again because when money starts leaving these peoples hands they'll start supplying a better product again.

And what boards would those be? The one owned by the source in question? LMFAO

And drop the condescension. I haven't seen anything in your posts that would warrant that elitist attitude you have. Not even close.






Oh, BULLSHIT! You're a shill and you're doing alright, aren't you? Gimme a fucking break.






The only thing anyone realized here is that you have a vested interest in this source. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, puts as much time and effort into defending a source as you have done with K, unless they're getting something in return or they're a dick rider.

And I don't give a flying fuck what "flies on most forums." Especially a censored forum.





I don't know. Alin and Z have been around forever too. How do they do it? I suspect with the assistance of shills and fan boys, just like everyone else.





When Pfizer fucks up, it's how THEY handle themselves that determines how things play out. The customer has sweet fuck all to do with it. If K had been testing his raws like he said, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Considering the fact that he is now sending gear for testing proves conclusively that it was NEVER tested previously. If it had been, he'd produce those test results. Too bad YOU don't already know this. Or maybe you do...

CBS

 

[TheGuy85]

I find it hard to believe that a guy that's been around that long ends up with all fake raws of all these products from his supplier or suppliers. Did he ever get back with JB. Did he respond back to his fuck up within 48 hours, I mean he expects to be paid in 48 hours, you would think a person could get an e-mail response in 48 hours. I know of a popular lab with great customer service, quick response time, and fast t/a that has been around for years and has never been outed like this. And guess what there is no minimum!

This was a huge fuck up that has obviously not been handled very well by the source. Stop holding his dick and put some fire to his ass until he makes shit right.

People are quick to shit on sources on here but K gets a free pass? Bullshit, I am sure he has had issues in the past that he has conveniently covered up. I don't even get into these type of discussions but this shit is sickening.

 

[graniteman]

Granite, granite, granite. Nobodt is "pushing" labmax. The compounds were tested by a couple people running them and nothing happened- thats when I knew I had dogshit because I ran the same stuff before and immediately after and I was not "immune" or victim of a "shitty diet". Labmax was the next step. It is simply a tool to further confirm what I personally already knew. Not definitive; just more evidence. Now I am mass spec bound and results will be next month.

In the meantime karius sent pills from a different batch to be tested which definitively proves he gets good compounds sometimes. It has notging to do with my issue, but I am still sure you and IM will run around with pom poms giving us a big "A-L-P!!!!!" but one batch has nothing to do with another. I would think karius would want me send my pills of to be tested, but he must not want the results from the batch in question. Strange. I wouldn't trust the results anyway, so I am sending off to a lab myself.

You have an issue with how I handled it- why are you STILL eunning board to board defwnding karius and slandering me? Even Italian has stated his piece and moved on. You obviously have more problems with this than you claim to; or you are severely overreacting to something that really affects you in no way.

You badmouth the people on Meso on other boards... yet here you are. Classing the place up for us?

Lol, running board to board. Tell me tuff guy what boards am I running back n forth to? Besides coming here, which I don't even know why I do TBH, You guys are a lost cause, and my 2 home boards it's abot all I visit.
I'm not over reacting, just trying to teach you a better way to behave to be accepted on adult boards? You know, how you were blubbering about how no one's nice to you and you feel bad there? Maybe if you dropped the Killa attitude and cut JohnnyBallhugger off your nuttz you may get received diferently. Who knows?

 

[graniteman]

And what boards would those be? The one owned by the source in question? LMFAO

And drop the condescension. I haven't seen anything in your posts that would warrant that elitist attitude you have. Not even close.






Oh, BULLSHIT! You're a shill and you're doing alright, aren't you? Gimme a fucking break.






The only thing anyone realized here is that you have a vested interest in this source. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, puts as much time and effort into defending a source as you have done with K, unless they're getting something in return or they're a dick rider.

And I don't give a flying fuck what "flies on most forums." Especially a censored forum.





I don't know. Alin and Z have been around forever too. How do they do it? I suspect with the assistance of shills and fan boys, just like everyone else.





When Pfizer fucks up, it's how THEY handle themselves that determines how things play out. The customer has sweet fuck all to do with it. If K had been testing his raws like he said, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Considering the fact that he is now sending gear for testing proves conclusively that it was NEVER tested previously. If it had been, he'd produce those test results. Too bad YOU don't already know this. Or maybe you do...

CBS

You guys really are beyond paranoid schyzoids, If I were you guys I would treat MikeStrong VERY well because I don't think you'll see another decent guy. yea , I'm a shill. It's funny guys come here to try and hel pyou guys who are constantly getting scammed and you repeat the behavior, basically the definition of insanity.

 

[brutus79]

Lol, running board to board. Tell me tuff guy what boards am I running back n forth to? Besides coming here, which I don't even know why I do TBH, You guys are a lost cause, and my 2 home boards it's abot all I visit.
I'm not over reacting, just trying to teach you a better way to behave to be accepted on adult boards? You know, how you were blubbering about how no one's nice to you and you feel bad there? Maybe if you dropped the Killa attitude and cut JohnnyBallhugger off your nuttz you may get received diferently. Who knows?

Yawn. By adult do you mean as in "adult community"? You are a lot more fun when you stick to one liner gay jokes and tittie pictures. Try not to branch out so much... dear abby of the boards you are not.

 

[dper726]

You guys really are beyond paranoid schyzoids, If I were you guys I would treat MikeStrong VERY well because I don't think you'll see another decent guy. yea , I'm a shill. It's funny guys come here to try and hel pyou guys who are constantly getting scammed and you repeat the behavior, basically the definition of insanity.

Scammers don't hand pick a board to only perfect they're act. Scammers are widespread. Scammers here, are scammers at your home board too you dumbfuck.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Lol, running board to board. Tell me tuff guy what boards am I running back n forth to? Besides coming here, which I don't even know why I do TBH, You guys are a lost cause, and my 2 home boards it's abot all I visit.
I'm not over reacting, just trying to teach you a better way to behave to be accepted on adult boards? You know, how you were blubbering about how no one's nice to you and you feel bad there? Maybe if you dropped the Killa attitude and cut JohnnyBallhugger off your nuttz you may get received diferently. Who knows?

And now you've confirmed you're just an old crazy fuck... Thanks..

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

How was it handled wrong again? Brutus posted something on this thread that there's a problem after someone bumped the thread.. We emailed K (still no response) and dick riders started blowing this up across the boards..

Trust me, no one here gives a shit how YOU, the mighty graniteman thought it should've been handled.. Why are you still harping on this?



He's not a "self proclaimed labmax expert" you condescending prick.. WE call him the expert as he's done hundreds of these tests..

Crisis? The only ones making this a big deal are you and IM.. And even IM has stopped at this point!!

You're either a senile geriatric that forgot about the PM you wrote that K's Cialis is inconsistent or just a liar.. Either way you can keep your advice on this one hoss unless you want to give me my money back.

Bump

 

[graniteman]

Hmmmm...odd how many meso members have signed up at a certain board to order from this really bad guy ALP. Quite a few of you must not hold much faith in what's being said here if you're going over there to order?
Anyways I just thought I would share that nugget .

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Hmmmm...odd how many meso members have signed up at a certain board to order from this really bad guy ALP. Quite a few of you must not hold much faith in what's being said here if you're going over there to order?
Anyways I just thought I would share that nugget .

Why do you keep bumping all these threads stirring shit up Mr. ALP rep?? Go sit in your garage with the door down and the car on..

 

[mmmiron]

Hmmmm...odd how many meso members have signed up at a certain board to order from this really bad guy ALP. Quite a few of you must not hold much faith in what's being said here if you're going over there to order?
Anyways I just thought I would share that nugget .

I'm not sure if ALP has really been deemed bad. I know I signed up to keep an eye on the situation and possibly order after the results of this situation have been worked out. I can't speak for other but I haven't prosecuted anybody. After years in and out of court I take the innocent until proven guilty thing pretty seriously.

 

[kawilt]

"After years in and out of court I take the innocent until proven guilty thing pretty seriously."

At just what table were you sitting?

 

[devildog93]

Well we have a trusted vet that reported 5 different pill types which all tested out bunk. If that isn't enough proof, then i suppose you can wait on some mass specs. For me, that is plenty.

I don't usually wait until a motor throws a rod down through the oilpan before i decide it needs to be rebuilt either. The initial knock is good enough to get me stripping it down. I would call what has gone on so far an initial knock.

 

[pmac928]

"After years in and out of court I take the innocent until proven guilty thing pretty seriously."

At just what table were you sitting?

No sir it's guilty until proven innocent here good ol USA.

 

[mmmiron]

"After years in and out of court I take the innocent until proven guilty thing pretty seriously."

At just what table were you sitting?

Haha at the table no one wants to be at!

 

[mmmiron]

Well we have a trusted vet that reported 5 different pill types which all tested out bunk. If that isn't enough proof, then i suppose you can wait on some mass specs. For me, that is plenty.

I don't usually wait until a motor throws a rod down through the oilpan before i decide it needs to be rebuilt either. The initial knock is good enough to get me stripping it down. I would call what has gone on so far an initial knock.

No one is questioning the situation. Accidents happen. The wait is to see how it is handled. The results of the MS etc. there is still more information that I need before I completely write off K.

 

[mmmiron]

No sir it's guilty until proven innocent here good ol USA.

Damn right it is but it shouldn't be and I fight my ass off for people to hear all the facts before they pass judgement.

 

[devildog93]

Fair enough, but how is 5 bunk pill types an accident? An accident is when you get winstrol in place of dbol or you get someone else's order and they get yours. I don't really understand how receiving a bunch of crap is an accident.

Sorry Brutus, we accidentally sent you the wrong order. All those sugar pills were totally meant for someone else. Yea, that makes me feel better.