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[Millard]

I should also note that while I encourage members to share their experiences. I also strongly warn them that there could be a backlash against them should they question a "golden" source or share a positive report with an unpopular source.

The only recommendation I have for members who find themselves in these situations is for them to research and investigate the source's typical modus operandi for dealing with such negative feedback. It is likely that the same tactics the source has previously used will be used again. If nothing turns up, then the member is entering uncharted territory. But the manner and method of the backlash will inevitably reveal itself.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

I should also note that while I encourage members to share their experiences. I also strongly warn them that there could be a backlash against them should they question a "golden" source or share a positive report with an unpopular source.

K's reps have repeatedly asked why there are no other complaints about his gear. It now seems obvious that aside from many complaints being deleted on censored boards, the boards themselves have created a climate of fear when it comes to openly criticizing sources. Just look at how Brutus and JohnnyB have been treated - and by supposed friends, no less. Who in their right mind would willingly come forward and complain when they know full well how their complaint is going to be received.

Excellent posts, Millard.

 

[Millard]

"Why is MESO the only place where members are allowed to call "bullshit" on this practice?"

This question is obviously a rhetorical question. The degree to which this practice thrives is the degree to which the forum in question is source-driven.

Any truly community-driven forum would never tolerate such a practice. That's why MESO members don't play by source rules.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

I've made my feelings clear on the value of VIP titles in the past but I'll say this: ItalianMuscle and Graniteman's posts, both here and on other forums, have clearly demonstrated that they are acting as representatives for Karius and their credibility is destroyed.

If, as I understand the practice, forum owners truly award VIP titles to members that have gained their trust, then it is imperative that these two members be stripped of their VIP status immediately or the forum's credibility, and by extension, that of the forum owner, will be irreparably harmed.

 

[ATodd]

"Why is MESO the only place where members are allowed to call "bullshit" on this practice?"

This question is obviously a rhetorical question. The degree to which this practice thrives is the degree to which the forum in question is source-driven.

Any truly community-driven forum would never tolerate such a practice. That's why MESO members don't play by source rules.

This is the reason I call Meso home, with many others i'm sure. Personally, I think it's right for the consumer to question and fact find. It's their money they're sending and ultimately what they are putting in their bodies.
atodd

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

K's reps have repeatedly asked why there are no other complaints about his gear. It now seems obvious that aside from many complaints being deleted on censored boards, the boards themselves have created a climate of fear when it comes to openly criticizing sources. Just look at how Brutus and JohnnyB have been treated - and by supposed friends, no less. Who in their right mind would willingly come forward and complain when they know full well how their complaint is going to be received.

Excellent posts, Millard.

Just for the record, brutus and johnnyb were never my friends..

I've made my feelings clear on the value of VIP titles in the past but I'll say this: ItalianMuscle and Graniteman's posts, both here and on other forums, have clearly demonstrated that they are acting as representatives for Karius and their credibility is destroyed.

If, as I understand the practice, forum owners truly award VIP titles to members that have gained their trust, then it is imperative that these two members be stripped of their VIP status immediately or the forum's credibility, and by extension, that of the forum owner, will be irreparably harmed.

Gmans and my credibility is destroyed? LMFAO! You, dr jim, johnnyballz, and brutus wish you were VIP somewhere. You guys arent trustworthy, and never will be. You guys are fucking nobody. Strip us of our VIP status..good luck with that. There is a reason we are up here on top, and you guys are dwelling in the sewer..

I was going to be done commenting with your stupid ass rep remarks, and everything else that comes out of your pathetic mouths, but I had to say what I just did. Please, please get those tabs mass spec tested. You guys all might as well bow out now while you have the chance to. You guys are going to look like fools when the tests come back good..

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Just for the record, brutus and johnnyb were never my friends..



Gmans and my credibility is destroyed? LMFAO! You, dr jim, johnnyballz, and brutus wish you were VIP somewhere. You guys arent trustworthy, and never will be. You guys are fucking nobody. Strip us of our VIP status..good luck with that. There is a reason we are up here on top, and you guys are dwelling in the sewer..

I was going to be done commenting with your stupid ass rep remarks, and everything else that comes out of your pathetic mouths, but I had to say what I just did. Please, please get those tabs mass spec tested. You guys all might as well bow out now while you have the chance to. You guys are going to look like fools when the tests come back good..

Again, test results from a different batch won't mean anything... Though I'm sure you'll make a case against that..

You're on the top? well guess what? I don't want to be there you pathetic bastard.. All the dick sucking and dirty deeds? Keep that shit homeboy.. Enjoy your "reign" of the online AAS market.. Pathetic as fuck if you ask me..

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

K's reps have repeatedly asked why there are no other complaints about his gear...
Just look at how Brutus and JohnnyB have been treated - and by supposed friends, no less.

Just for the record, brutus and johnnyb were never my friends..

Dishonest people always slip-up eventually if you continue to hammer them and IM is no exception. LMFAO

 

[tacohuman]

Just for the record, brutus and johnnyb were never my friends..



Gmans and my credibility is destroyed? LMFAO! You, dr jim, johnnyballz, and brutus wish you were VIP somewhere. You guys arent trustworthy, and never will be. You guys are fucking nobody. Strip us of our VIP status..good luck with that. There is a reason we are up here on top, and you guys are dwelling in the sewer..

I was going to be done commenting with your stupid ass rep remarks, and everything else that comes out of your pathetic mouths, but I had to say what I just did. Please, please get those tabs mass spec tested. You guys all might as well bow out now while you have the chance to. You guys are going to look like fools when the tests come back good..

So...they aren't VIP somewhere because they aren't trustworthy? Trustworthy with what? Keeping quiet when a source gives them shit labeled as gold? Anyone worth a damn doesn't care about a persons status. Its what they contribute that matters.

 

[dper726]

Just for the record, brutus and johnnyb were never my friends..



Gmans and my credibility is destroyed? LMFAO! You, dr jim, johnnyballz, and brutus wish you were VIP somewhere. You guys arent trustworthy, and never will be. You guys are fucking nobody. Strip us of our VIP status..good luck with that. There is a reason we are up here on top, and you guys are dwelling in the sewer..

I was going to be done commenting with your stupid ass rep remarks, and everything else that comes out of your pathetic mouths, but I had to say what I just did. Please, please get those tabs mass spec tested. You guys all might as well bow out now while you have the chance to. You guys are going to look like fools when the tests come back good..

Post count, member status labels don't mean anything. What matters is how you express yourself and where your priorities stand. You can keep your VIP trophies. They are nothing more from you then a status symbol of the dick sucking you have done and how crusty your knees are at this point from being on them this long.

Keep thinking the mass spec from a different batch matter. We are not stupid or fooled. You are taking part of a typical dirt sweep by scam artists in this business. Much like you have done to this point with naps.

 

[theprodgicalson]

 

[greenddog1]

Examine he parallels and choose which society you would rather reside:

A society where free speech is curbed by censorship, threats of banishment, verbal assaults when valid issues concerning integrity and quality of consumables.
Information of potential health issues or scams are aggressively squashed to further the profits for a few, as the “few” rule in tyranny.
It’s unfortunate that there are so many eager and desperate consumers willing to fall prey to the predatory and dictatorial actions of some other boards.
On the other hand, would you rather have a society that allows free exchange of information.. Exchanges that can be examined, challenged, criticized, and praised. One that allows the members to do so without the fear of banishment for his/her thoughts or observations.
Yes, Meso has it has its share of members that can influence others via their verbal assaults. The beauty of this forum is, you can challenge them without board reprisal. It can get ugly, but all usually agree in the end, individual’s opinions are respected, not always in sync, but not silenced by administrators.
Meso is not perfect, nor is any society, but I chose to live in one that allows me to express my thoughts, even if it offends others or where others may not agree, in lieu of one that controls my expression. I can handle the criticism, the jabs and all the bs that goes along with a disagreement, but I will not tolerate the control by a few to silence me for their financial benefit, regardless of any thought to my health and financial wellbeing.

 

[greenddog1]

Indulge the ramblings of an ole guy whose life’s experiences have made me come to certain conclusions.

One is, ”wants” can be harmful, “needs” have a higher probability of sustaining. I’ve learned if I want something I make sure I obtain all of my needs (info, data, tests, reviews, etc) before I get my toys.

Does a censored board allow you to fulfill your needs? Or just your wants?

Not saying all products on censored boards are bunk or you’ll get scammed, but appreciate the open forum here to help make those decisions here.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Post count, member status labels don't mean anything. What matters is how you express yourself and where your priorities stand. You can keep your VIP trophies. They are nothing more from you then a status symbol of the dick sucking you have done and how crusty your knees are at this point from being on them this long.

Keep thinking the mass spec from a different batch matter. We are not stupid or fooled. You are taking part of a typical dirt sweep by scam artists in this business. Much like you have done to this point with naps.

If you got proof I scammed someone. Post it motherfucker.. $10K reward to you when you do..

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

So...they aren't VIP somewhere because they aren't trustworthy? Trustworthy with what? Keeping quiet when a source gives them shit labeled as gold? Anyone worth a damn doesn't care about a persons status. Its what they contribute that matters.

You fucking meso turds are the worst fucking members ever. You guys run your mouths like crazy here, but dont say shit at other forums in fear of being banned. You guys are cowards. Brutus should have been man enough to handle this the right way and brought it up to the source first, instead he is a fucking bitch and calls foul play because a labmax test says so. He claims the anadrol was bad. He claimed the dbol was bunk too, but never tried it. Claims the nolvadex was really dbol..Yeah, ok.. and the cialis was bunk because it didnt work. News flash, cialis doesnt work for me and quite a few people, and Ive tried Lily hg brand and a few UGs..
If brutus has the tabs, send them off to ecstasydata.org, this will prove he didnt tamper with the tabs, because we will see the stamp on the tab with the pic to prove it on their website..

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Dishonest people always slip-up eventually if you continue to hammer them and IM is no exception. LMFAO

Who were you referring to my supposed friends? Me and Gman? Fuck you dude. You cocksuckers wish you were my friends and in my circle. Maybe you wouldnt get fucked all the time..

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Who were you referring to my supposed friends? Me and Gman? Fuck you dude. You cocksuckers wish you were my friends and in my circle. Maybe you wouldnt get fucked all the time..

Ah... So now you say we did get fucked?^^ Very confusing trying to follow what your saying from post to post, seems shit just falls out of your mouth and you don't even know what it means..

Get the fuck outta here.. Nothing better to do on a Saturday morning than start shit again huh IM?? Oh wait, you're probably still on the clock, REP..

You've done a fine job exposing yourself in this thread.. Fuck you and everything you stand for..

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Ah... So now you say we did get fucked?^^ Very confusing trying to follow what your saying from post to post, seems shit just falls out of your mouth and you don't even know what it means..

Get the fuck outta here.. Nothing better to do on a Saturday morning than start shit again huh IM?? Oh wait, you're probably still on the clock, REP..

You've done a fine job exposing yourself in this thread.. Fuck you and everything you stand for..

Yep, getting paid by the hour with legit anadrol and cialis tabs. Yeah, Im a dick. At least I admit it. Could give two shits if you guys got scammed.(which I I know you didnt) You guys are pulling the woah is me, reverse scam. Seen it before. Complain of bunk orals, and then get resent more for your troubles. So now you have twice as much for the $500 you spent..

Repping ItalianMuscle..

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Yep, getting paid by the hour with legit anadrol and cialis tabs. Yeah, Im a dick. At least I admit it. Could give two shits if you guys got scammed.(which I I know you didnt) You guys are pulling the woah is me, reverse scam. Seen it before. Complain of bunk orals, and then get resent more for your troubles. So now you have twice as much for the $500 you spent..

Repping ItalianMuscle..

Hahaha.. I haven't emailed K since Sunday and brutus hasn't either. He knows what's going on and doesn't seem to care.. Certainly not counting him to fix anything and I haven't seen that money for months so I really don't give a shit.. AGAIN, if all I wanted was more tabs I would've just dealt with it in private like the good ole boys all suggest.. Why do you keep cycling the same 4 or 5 bullshit arguments?

Labmax is evidence, no effect from the tabs is evidence, mass spec will be even more evidence that I'll shove up your fat greasy Italian ass..

This is the 7th day in a row you've come to this thread starting shit and defending K.. I think you need a raise for all the hard work you've been doing..

 

[Oregongearhead]

I dont know IM - never talked to him ; I just know when he shows up theres trouble here . Maybe you should stay over at your other boards , you seem to have very few friends here . ~Ogh