Karius - ALP / BAL Lists -

[whodatnation]

The community here has taken this free speech they have been given and run with it. We are thankful to finally have a place to voice our concerns and the community in place to validate or deny those concerns.

We are changing things little by little and it is without a doubt ruffling some feathers but in the long run the community will be better for it. In the past all we had in order to make a decision was the word from within the community but too many times we discovered that voices within the community were in fact paid servants and not being totally transparent.

The future of the industry is in our hands and we must continue forward testing each and every damn thing we come into contact with. Eventually money and the loss of sales within the industry will change the standards.

Consumers in the AAS black market are at an extreme disadvantage. So, anytime someone has evidence of quality control problems with a lab, it is important that it is shared with the community. The QC problem(s) will either be confirmed or invalidated by other members and additional evidence as it emerges in an open and transparent manner. My policy is to give members/consumers the benefit of doubt unless proven otherwise.

 

[ATodd]

You fucking meso turds are the worst fucking members ever. You guys run your mouths like crazy here, but dont say shit at other forums in fear of being banned.

Thank you, IM for proving a point so perfectly, with your own words. One CAN NOT go on sponsored boards to complain, not out of fear, but futility. Your posts will be deleted and persona banned. All will appear well. Plenty of "another great transaction" "always professional" "can't wait for my package" and "your the man". Not a one "this is underdosed horsepiss". Everyone has a problem now and again. Also, if status is that important to you, i'll see if i can have Millard transfer my trophy points to you. I'll still be the same happy guy.
Warmest regards,
atodd

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

BUMP..

For the world to read about what a piece of shit shill ItalianMuscles is.. I couldn't have written your replies better myself!!

 

[enjoy_tren]

You do realize that none of the posts on ab were deleted or modified in any way.

Thank you, IM for proving a point so perfectly, with your own words. One CAN NOT go on sponsored boards to complain, not out of fear, but futility. Your posts will be deleted and persona banned. All will appear well. Plenty of "another great transaction" "always professional" "can't wait for my package" and "your the man". Not a one "this is underdosed horsepiss". Everyone has a problem now and again. Also, if status is that important to you, i'll see if i can have Millard transfer my trophy points to you. I'll still be the same happy guy.
Warmest regards,
atodd

 

[pmac928]

You do realize that none of the posts on ab were deleted or modified in any way.

Not yet. And if they haven't, wow shocker.

 

[tacohuman]

I dont think AB minds what you post as long as you aren't giving out risky shit like TA or location etc. Karius actually seemed concerned from what I read at least. Its just IM and GM getting all bent out of shape

 

[brutus79]

I dont think AB minds what you post as long as you aren't giving out risky shit like TA or location etc. Karius actually seemed concerned from what I read at least. Its just IM and GM getting all bent out of shape

he hasnt been concermed enough to respond to email or pm... just supposedly sent product from a completely different batch for testing- strange because he supposedly tests everything anyway- and took polls from the fanboys about alp products. great customer service.

 

[brutus79]

Tid is the board that the mods delete everything they feel like deleting... you can't even talk bad about a vip or question a mods motives without the threat of a ban. disappointing considering that there are some awesome guys on there but it is a shining example of one bad apple (or mod) spoils the bunch.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Karius actually seemed concerned from what I read at least. Its just IM and GM getting all bent out of shape

It was a clever move on K's part. He let his reps (IM and Granite) do the dirty work of discrediting Brutus and JohnnyB's complaints while he remained above it.

Notice K has not mentioned it again. Nor has he even returned their emails.

 

[tacohuman]

he hasnt been concermed enough to respond to email or pm... just supposedly sent product from a completely different batch for testing- strange because he supposedly tests everything anyway- and took polls from the fanboys about alp products. great customer service.

That's good to know. I've sifted through the info I could find, but I hadn't seen anything about not returning contact. IMs bullshit flooded all the useful info out of sight

 

[brutus79]

That's good to know. I've sifted through the info I could find, but I hadn't seen anything about not returning contact. IMs bullshit flooded all the useful info out of sight

He is just doing his job- hiding useful info

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

IMs bullshit flooded all the useful info out of sight

That was the idea.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

he hasnt been concermed enough to respond to email or pm... just supposedly sent product from a completely different batch for testing- strange because he supposedly tests everything anyway- and took polls from the fanboys about alp products. great customer service.

It was a clever move on K's part. He let his reps (IM and Granite) do the dirty work of discrediting Brutus and JohnnyB's complaints while he remained above it.

Notice K has not mentioned it again. Nor has he even returned their emails.

Yea, I don't get it.. I haven't had my business for "10 years" or anything but if a client had a complaint I would be all fucking over it until it was resolved either by telling them to fuck off or FIXING it..

I don't want anything at this point except for this to be out there..

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Please place your votes... Just trying to prove a point here since IM likes the "pole game".. Pull out that laptop and vote folks..

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/poll-do-you-trust-italianmuscle.134357593/

 

[muscle96ss]

It was a clever move on K's part. He let his reps (IM and Granite) do the dirty work of discrediting Brutus and JohnnyB's complaints while he remained above it.

Notice K has not mentioned it again. Nor has he even returned their emails.

See thats just it, he doesn't have reps and I would venture to guess that the way things have been handled on this thread is the reason why he has been silent. He is very low key, usually private, and caters to a more professional type of clientele. I would be willing to bet that based on the level of maturity displayed in this thread by all parties that he doesn't really want to get involved and probably has doubts on the genuineness of the complaint. His normal procedure for complaints seems to be one where he offers to reship the order, no questions asked, as well as then posts in his thread asking for feedback on the complained about item(s)(I have personal exoperience with this). As graniteman has stated from the beginning, had the approach been different, the end result probably would have been much different as well(and no it wouldn't have been swept under the rug).

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

See thats just it, he doesn't have reps and I would venture to guess that the way things have been handled on this thread is the reason why he has been silent. He is very low key, usually private, and caters to a more professional type of clientele. I would be willing to bet that based on the level of maturity displayed in this thread by all parties that he doesn't really want to get involved and probably has doubts on the genuineness of the complaint. His normal procedure for complaints seems to be one where he offers to reship the order, no questions asked, as well as then posts in his thread asking for feedback on the complained about item(s)(I have personal exoperience with this). As graniteman has stated from the beginning, had the approach been different, the end result probably would have been much different as well(and no it wouldn't have been swept under the rug).

I don't really care if my approach was off.. I got bad stuff and I'm entitled to handle it as I see fit.. I didn't just post about our anecdotal experience with the tabs I sent them to a third party (who has done hundreds of these tests) to labmax and he posted pics!! I will post mass spec once it's done as well..

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

See thats just it, he doesn't have reps and I would venture to guess that the way things have been handled on this thread is the reason why he has been silent. He is very low key, usually private, and caters to a more professional type of clientele. I would be willing to bet that based on the level of maturity displayed in this thread by all parties that he doesn't really want to get involved and probably has doubts on the genuineness of the complaint. His normal procedure for complaints seems to be one where he offers to reship the order, no questions asked, as well as then posts in his thread asking for feedback on the complained about item(s)(I have personal exoperience with this). As graniteman has stated from the beginning, had the approach been different, the end result probably would have been much different as well(and no it wouldn't have been swept under the rug).

Also, he's been branching out to OLM and Meso with his posts here.. Doesn't seem too private or selective IMO..

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Real selective taking this guy on who admitted here a few days ago he's a total noob , just signed up on AB on the 7th..

When's alp says that you have to request labels on vials does that mean if we don't it just comes as blank vials? Might be a stupid question but I gotta ask.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Also, he's been branching out to OLM and Meso with his posts here.. Doesn't seem too private or selective IMO..

Not to mention Eroids - the biggest open source forum in existence.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Not to mention Eroids - the biggest open source forum in existence.

Oh yea, I knew I was missing something..