Karius - ALP / BAL Lists -

[johnnyBALLZ]

If you guys wanna get in with ALP you should do so soon. He is on AB. However, most of the year he is private. He will open, as he has here, for a time and then close.

The member flex with 1 post touched on the min issue. For a long while ALP's min was $500. There was a time when a higher min was the norm. It tends to bring a more "mature" crowd and keeps the kids away as 1 post flex said. That isn't to say, by any means, that if you can't handle a higher min that you're a fucking retard. It's nothing personal and it's unfortunate that some good folks are left out but it does keep kids away.

It does come across ignorant and not bright when guys complain about a min and say it's a lot to risk "right out of the gate". Are you saying after this $100 initial order you'll be back with a $400 order? No, you won't. Why? Because this source didn't just hit the scene. The "test" orders have been done for you a decade ago. You aren't risking anything and doing anyone any favors by coming back posting "touchdown" and that you got your 2 vials. No shit. They have nothing to prove and are catering to a certain demographic. That's all there is to it.

Agreed..^^ If I needed gear at the moment I'd gladly spend $500 to get in with K.. Doesn't excuse all this dick sucking behavior from guys that just joined our board though..

Nice to see you back Ben, all's well??

 

[Spyder]

Wow been a offline for a while and miss all the fun!

 

[bickel29]

I think Karius needs a better introduction then what he has received thus far from Meso members. You guys are getting a superstar that has been around forever and has quality gear. I met Karius when most of you Justin Beiber lovers were still sucking your thumbs. Give the guy the respect he deserves. You will not be disappointed with his product or service. Give K his due respect and stop bitching about $300. What source wants to fill 2000 $100 orders a month when they can fill a fraction of that number and stay of the grid whiling keeping himself and his customers safe. Let the pro's handle how to do business. This isnt K's first rodeo. Listen to Vets like us, we will keep you safe. Or buy from a random source with no minimum and see what happens. If you cant risk $300 you are a kid and kids bring heat. Some of the best sources I have used had $500+ minimums becuase they look to keep the bitches and whiners away. They are dangerous.

Here is my rant....

Dude, who exactly are you arguing against? It feels like you are making some sort of 'straw-man argument' in order to allow yourself to kiss K's ass while also making yourself look noble, as if that makes the ass kissing look any better?

You think he needs a better intro than what he has received thus far from Meso members? Really? What the hell is that? A source intros themselves, which K did. Why do you feel the need to re-intro him when he already has several vets whose opinion matters vouching for him?

A better question would be --- why do you think you need to be the one to re-intro anyone?

And you are telling us to show Karius the respect he deserves? Have you not read the damned posts up until now? He has received nothing but respect, along with a couple of people griping about the min, which were just general gripes not related specifically to K.

 

[bickel29]

I think Karius needs a better introduction then what he has received thus far from Meso members. You guys are getting a superstar that has been around forever and has quality gear. I met Karius when most of you Justin Beiber lovers were still sucking your thumbs. Give the guy the respect he deserves. You will not be disappointed with his product or service. Give K his due respect and stop bitching about $300. What source wants to fill 2000 $100 orders a month when they can fill a fraction of that number and stay of the grid whiling keeping himself and his customers safe. Let the pro's handle how to do business. This isnt K's first rodeo. Listen to Vets like us, we will keep you safe. Or buy from a random source with no minimum and see what happens. If you cant risk $300 you are a kid and kids bring heat. Some of the best sources I have used had $500+ minimums becuase they look to keep the bitches and whiners away. They are dangerous.

Here is my rant....

Dude, who exactly are you arguing against? It feels like you are making some sort of 'straw-man argument' in order to allow yourself to kiss K's ass while also making yourself look noble, as if that makes the ass kissing look any better?

You think he needs a better intro than what he has received thus far from Meso members? Really? What the hell is that? A source intros themselves, which K did. Why do you feel the need to re-intro him when he already has several vets whose opinion matters vouching for him?

A better question would be --- why do you think you need to be the one to re-intro anyone?

And you are telling us to show Karius the respect he deserves? Have you not read the damned posts up until now? He has received nothing but respect, along with a couple of people griping about the min, which were just general gripes not related specifically to K.

 

[trtjuicer73]

Why do all of these threads end up with drama queen bullshit for pages and pages?

 

[gisnb]

How 'bout that...I do have an account here from a long time ago.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

I think Karius needs a better introduction then what he has received thus far from Meso members.

You mean a better "reception" by Meso members, not an "introduction." He introduced himself, Meso received him.

You guys are getting a superstar that has been around forever and has quality gear.

Isn't that wonderful. I feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

I met Karius when most of you Justin Beiber lovers were still sucking your thumbs. Give the guy the respect he deserves.

Better they suck their thumbs than K's cock, like you.

Hey, I just bought a new pair of training shoes. I paid a fair price for a decent shoe. The store was happy to take my money for the "service" they provided. Should I give them respect for doing what a business is supposed to do? Sure. Do they deserve "extra" respect for doing what a business is "supposed" to do? Hell no!

You will not be disappointed with his product or service. Give K his due respect and stop bitching about $300.

K will get his "due" respect from these guys when the transaction is complete - not before.

What source wants to fill 2000 $100 orders a month when they can fill a fraction of that number and stay of the grid whiling keeping himself and his customers safe.

Who cares? There are all kinds of sources that cater to all kinds of markets. Your point is irrelevant.

Let the pro's handle how to do business. This isnt K's first rodeo.

The customer will decide how they wish to do business - as they should. If they're able to afford a $300 minimum AND are comfortable with it, they'll buy. If they're not, they won't.

Listen to Vets like us, we will keep you safe.

ROTFLMFAO!!! Okay, Mr. One Post Veteran. I feel safer already.

Or buy from a random source with no minimum and see what happens.

If the source is REPUTABLE, you'll get your order. Again, another irrelevant point. I'm beginning to sense a pattern with you.

If you cant risk $300 you are a kid and kids bring heat.

In some cases, that is true. But it's not true in EVERY case. Believe it or not, Mr. Trump, not everybody can afford $300.

Some of the best sources I have used had $500+ minimums becuase they look to keep the bitches and whiners away.

So what, some of the "best sources" don't have any minimum. Yup, definitely a pattern with you.

They are dangerous.

So are one-post dick riders.

Here is my rant....

Your rant was weak - just like I would expect from a dick rider.

K has a stellar reputation and solid backing. He got it for doing what he is supposed to do, i.e. provide a product in exchange for money in a timely fashion. That's why he's been in business for so long. But he's not the second coming. And all you low-post nut huggers aren't doing his reputation any favors.

Have a nice day
CBS

 

[sable]

IMO it dosent matter if a source been around a long time or not. Do you work for him, do you personally know him? You know where he works and live? It don't mean shit. I had a friend that use this source that was a big time source, not gonna name who, came back just like he did for a quick minute and end up dicking a good amount of ppl on his way out in less than 3 months. Is the ppl that vehmently vouch for this source gonna pay for any loss if such shit happens? This is not bestbuy or walmart, give rain checks or announce they're going out buisness. Get real ppl, we don't know the hole from the wall these guys are from. Everything is ANON. If a big international source like naps who have thousands of happy customers needs vetting or lab analzysis test, why shouldn't a domestic source? JMO

 

[themidge]

I came in this thread originally to check if this was actually K, I figured there wouldn't be a ton of tween drama but I was wrong. Quit hating on the low post counters and new members in this thread. Everyone who's been around even a miniscule amount of time more than likely know who is, or of "K". These "nuthuggers" pose no threat to the integrity of the board in this thread considering that. There are posters in here that have been around over a decade and don't have "Veteran" under their name because they don't post needlessly. On the other hand the opposite is also true. Keep that in mind, this is the only board I know of where the server hands out vet status based on post count. Some of you need some humility.

PS - Flame away, I have my proximity suit on [)]

 

[biggerben69]

Agreed..^^ If I needed gear at the moment I'd gladly spend $500 to get in with K.. Doesn't excuse all this dick sucking behavior from guys that just joined our board though..

Nice to see you back Ben, all's well??

I'm well, thank you johnny! I've been here. Just really busy. I've been sitting back here for the most part watching whats happening with the spillover from evo. You, brutus, and the guys are regulating,

IMO it dosent matter if a source been around a long time or not. Do you work for him, do you personally know him? You know where he works and live? It don't mean shit. I had a friend that use this source that was a big time source, not gonna name who, came back just like he did for a quick minute and end up dicking a good amount of ppl on his way out in less than 3 months. Is the ppl that vehmently vouch for this source gonna pay for any loss if such shit happens? This is not bestbuy or walmart, give rain checks or announce they're going out buisness. Get real ppl, we don't know the hole from the wall these guys are from. Everything is ANON. If a big international source like naps who have thousands of happy customers needs vetting or lab analzysis test, why shouldn't a domestic source? JMO

Comparing ALP to NAPS is a horrible analogy. I'm not saying you're stupid and don't know how things are because maybe you do, in general, or maybe your post is more about what you've read more than your personal experience?
Your buddy who got got by some big source again is a terrible analogy. ALP didn't come back. Never left sourcing. He left meso but that was strategy on k's part. ALP isn't a big source volume wise like Naps. They are big in reputation as one of the originals,,,and one of unwavering quality and customer service.
I'm not over for dinner at k's on Sunday but some of us know a lot more about the man and have been part of his world since he made a move in 06. I'm hanging at k's place of business all the time like a lot of guys are. If we need him he'll make an appearance. He's one of us. Without our support over the years there wouldn't be an ALP.
When I came back after being off the grid and started making the rounds I went to K and brought my paperwork. I wasn't sure how I was going to be received and i was different than I was and than I am now. I needed to get acclimated to the world again. K was genuine(i felt he was) in his welcome back to me.
ALP is his baby. His legacy is important to him. I can't believe you said said the Walmart thing. Nails on a chalk board.

 

[biggerben69]

I came in this thread originally to check if this was actually K, I figured there wouldn't be a ton of tween drama but I was wrong. Quit hating on the low post counters and new members in this thread. Everyone who's been around even a miniscule amount of time more than likely know who is, or of "K". These "nuthuggers" pose no threat to the integrity of the board in this thread considering that. There are posters in here that have been around over a decade and don't have "Veteran" under their name because they don't post needlessly. On the other hand the opposite is also true. Keep that in mind, this is the only board I know of where the server hands out vet status based on post count. Some of you need some humility.

PS - Flame away, I have my proximity suit on [)]

This definitely isn't the only board where post count dictates status. You bring up a subject that I believe needs to be addressed here at meso and any other respectable board.
An example of how it can fuck people who are new to the boards. Over at evolution(new board) there were 2 guys that had VIP status that were just recently banned for misrepresenting products(was that the official word?). New guys saw that and were given a false sense of security. The believed the guys could be trusted as they had interaction with mods and members every day.
Over at k's board that's certainly not how VIP status is attained. It took me 6yrs before I was nominated and voted in. I love that board. I've found that the really great boards all have a unique "feel" to them that can't be duplicated. AB is an "open" board to an extent, but there is much more to it that IMO gives it a small private board feel to it.
Meso has a unique thing going on as well. Since Millard introduced the "underground" in 2012(right?) meso has exploded in popularity. Membership has spiked big time. Sure, tilly/gearusing with his multiple accounts helped, but you can't overlook how wildly popular the place has become.
Millard gave the keys to the inmates and it was on. It's got to be the mix of personality and mix of all ages and experience. There are boards that have tried to bring the underground to their place but it hasn't been able to match what we've got going on.

 

[Flexed23]

My instinct on this board was true. Thanks for making it clear little bro's

 

[sable]

You're have a point bb, maybe it is more of a personal experience,and naps might be a bad comparison, more of a volume distributor. But it all depends which angle you look at it. But all I'm trying to say in the end of the day this is all about money to the sources. Maybe very few in between does have pride, dignity and care about their customers. But most don't. That's why IMO I feel you have to go with the statistics.

In no way I'm implying I don't have a trustworthy go to source. I have a few I would drop a g in the mail without blink of an eye. But if this source that I had this kind of relations with disappear off the scene for awhile. I wouldn't hedge my bet on the house that it will be the same again till a little more time. That's just the way I feel. But like u said it's about personal experience too. But I just don't like the way some ppl are saying if $300 is going to break ur wallet, how u going to deal with the food money. It is irrelevant. Just cause I can drop $500 at any given order, dosent mean I want to be taken for. I can understand how some newer ppl wants to try $200 first to test the water. I would too, but it dosent mean I'm cheap or can't afford the minimum. Just wanted to get that point across, but still respect other peoples personal experiences and view. Nothing personal against karius. If all is good I would be the first to drop money on him.

 

[sable]

Let's make this clear. Just cause some people don't have time to post up here 24/7 and be post whore dosent mean they don't know the in how. It's not a knock on some of the veteran members up here cause some definitely do have a lot of knowledge. But when ppl start spewing out personal attacks on whether ppl can afford gear cause whether the minimum is low or high is irrelevant to what this coc or topic is about. It's becoming too much of a pride thing..Let's stay on the topic and issues folks.

 

[brutus79]

My instinct on this board was true. Thanks for making it clear little bro's

Why don't you elaborate on your instinct? We "made it clear", so why be cryptic my friend?

 

[brutus79]

You're have a point bb, maybe it is more of a personal experience,and naps might be a bad comparison, more of a volume distributor. But it all depends which angle you look at it. But all I'm trying to say in the end of the day this is all about money to the sources. Maybe very few in between does have pride, dignity and care about their customers. But most don't. That's why IMO I feel you have to go with the statistics.

In no way I'm implying I don't have a trustworthy go to source. I have a few I would drop a g in the mail without blink of an eye. But if this source that I had this kind of relations with disappear off the scene for awhile. I wouldn't hedge my bet on the house that it will be the same again till a little more time. That's just the way I feel. But like u said it's about personal experience too. But I just don't like the way some ppl are saying if $300 is going to break ur wallet, how u going to deal with the food money. It is irrelevant. Just cause I can drop $500 at any given order, dosent mean I want to be taken for. I can understand how some newer ppl wants to try $200 first to test the water. I would too, but it dosent mean I'm cheap or can't afford the minimum. Just wanted to get that point across, but still respect other peoples personal experiences and view. Nothing personal against karius. If all is good I would be the first to drop money on him.

It's not a knock on "some" veterans? Which vets are you knocking?

I really don't get why the minimum is being argued- do you think if one of these posts you squeeze out of your busy life will be so eloquent he will rethink the minimum? Or do you just want him to feel bad about it?

I think the minimum is a good idea- everyone whining about it would be sure to whine about t/a, crooked labels, etc- some people were born to complain imo.

Let's make this clear. Just cause some people don't have time to post up here 24/7 and be post whore dosent mean they don't know the in how. It's not a knock on some of the veteran members up here cause some definitely do have a lot of knowledge. But when ppl start spewing out personal attacks on whether ppl can afford gear cause whether the minimum is low or high is irrelevant to what this coc or topic is about. It's becoming too much of a pride thing..Let's stay on the topic and issues folks.

 

[sable]

I think you're taking my post the wrong way. I'm not here war posting with u or anyone else for that matter. You seem to get defensive very quick. Do you feel like you're a veteran, Is dr Jim, bb69, jb or anyone else in that post count range is for that matter? You need to read in between the line. The post wasn't directed at u or all the veterans pal.
Also I'm not arguing about the minimum if you read my post carefully. I just don't like the fact that some members veteran or NOT putting down people that can't or dosent want to pay the minimum or wants it lower. Again it's irrelevant whether I agree with the set minimum or not..
I have no problem with that minimum.

 

[bickel29]

I think the fellas who hang here frequently realize that Vet status is not tied to post count. I often read posts from guys here who use the "you're not a real vet, you're just a post whore" insult as an attempt to discredit the argument of a member with a lot of posts in a short membership time span.

Obviously I don't speak for everyone, but most of us newer members (less than a year) look up to the true Vets, and we clearly see the difference between a member with a lot of posts, and a genuine OG. Dudes like Big Ben, Mands, Mythotik and many more are looked up to around here because of their time on the board AND because of their knowledge AND because of their participation/contribution. Not because of their post count.

On the contrary, we are also smart enough to realize that if a brother opened a Meso account today and his handle was 'Big-Ronnie-Coleman' and he happened to be the same dude with the 8 trophies, we'd accept him as a Vet of the game, even with his 1 post.

They say things like leadership and beauty are not defined in words, you just know them when you see them. Same with the real deal Vets here.

 

[sable]

Also yes Iam busy, but it has nothing to do whether my infrequent post is going to make a sway on what the source do and it shouldn't. I don't know where u trying to get at. All I'm trying to imply is logic and if you can put down you weapon for once and not try to over analyze people comment maybe we can all get along brotha. This board in the end of the day is to protect us the consumer, big bros or " little bros" against the dark side of this buisness which is the source. So let's just keep the war on the sources side. Not among us.

 

[sable]

@ bickle29..agreed