Lab Max Alternative

[mercury]

I told this many times I like Balkan Pharma does it make me a dealer if I say that it is the best gear. If I like product then I like it.

I have been in discussion on boards many times over the last 20 years and there was nothing to test gear except sending to a lab.

Here is lab which sells proven method of testing. And there is a guy who comes with some acid testing I do not see any scientific support for this.

If I discredit gear because it is bunk and support other one, do you come to conclusion that I am somehow reaping economic gain from the sale of other gear.

You can pour acid on your ass and what does it prove, it proves that your ass is red.

 

[Kinikuman]

Here is lab which sells proven method of testing. And there is a guy who comes with some acid testing I do not see any scientific support for this.

Just how proven LM is has honestly fluctuated over time. Not so long ago you yourself were attributing capabilities to the test that we now know do not exist. We have also leaned that carrier oils and possibly any number of other adulterants may affect the results of the test.

There may not be a mound of scientific evidence for what the OP is proposing, but I applaud him for not being happy with the rapidly diminishing status quo. Maybe his proposed method will fail, but the idea of reverse engineering LM sounds like a pretty good one to me. Besides, I don't see a lengthy list of publications on the efficacy of LM posted anywhere on their site.

I get that LM has been a godsend for you. Maybe you get something from the sale of LM products or maybe not, but based upon what I read, I feel you may have lost your objectivity around LM. Sorry, but that's really how it looks from over here.

You can pour acid on your ass and what does it prove, it proves that your ass is red.

It also proves that you poured acid on your ass. I fail to see the relevance of this example.

 

[mercury]

Just how proven LM is has honestly fluctuated over time. Not so long ago you yourself were attributing capabilities to the test that we now know do not exist.

There could be mistakes done based on misunderstanding of the test results. A lot of people see something what is not there. The funny thing is that people were already testing here when I joined this forum. This is how I learnt about this test and I got a lot of practice testing myself.

 

[FuriousWO]

I told this many times I like Balkan Pharma does it make me a dealer if I say that it is the best gear. If I like product then I like it.

I have been in discussion on boards many times over the last 20 years and there was nothing to test gear except sending to a lab.

Here is lab which sells proven method of testing. And there is a guy who comes with some acid testing I do not see any scientific support for this.

If I discredit gear because it is bunk and support other one, do you come to conclusion that I am somehow reaping economic gain from the sale of other gear.

You can pour acid on your ass and what does it prove, it proves that your ass is red.

It's funny you never actually say you aren't reaping financial gain from LabMax and are not involved with them. You only throw out silly comparisons. Why don't you just clear the issue up once and for all and answer the questions clearly and concisely?
1. Are you involved with the LabMax company in any way other than just an end user of the product?
2. Do you received some kind of benefit from their success financially or otherwise?
Answering these DIRECTLY would stop the questions and you could refer people back to your response when questioned in the future. At this point anything other than a direct answer tells the story.

 

[MANWHORE]

 

[MANWHORE]

I get a failed LM and get my balls cut off,
now LM is being questioned and my gear is good..

So, how do I get my balls back?

 

[FuriousWO]

So, how do I get my balls back?

These are prosthetic testicles, see your doctor [emoji13]

 

[MANWHORE]

These are prosthetic testicles, see your doctor [emoji13]

 

[mercury]

It's funny you never actually say you aren't reaping financial gain from LabMax and are not involved with them.

how many times I have to repeat and for what purpose, I am just sick and tired repeating over and over again that I am just their customer and nothing else.

next time when I make a statement about their product bunch of new retards who just singed up with this side will ask me again the same question.

have you ever seen LM advertising on the boards ? I do not think that they pay attention what happens on boards they sell tons to LE and customs.

 

[FuriousWO]

how many times I have to repeat and for what purpose, I am just sick and tired repeating over and over again that I am just their customer and nothing else.

next time when I make a statement about their product bunch of new retards who just singed up with this side will ask me again the same question.

have you ever seen LM advertising on the boards ? I do not think that they pay attention what happens on boards they sell tons to LE and customs.

Thanks man, so can you help me understand why you think LM is so good? By their own admission they say that other substances can foul the results and their own tests are done on pharma quality. I'm paraphrasing but I quoted the site a few pages back. Their statement pretty much says testing UGL is crap shoot, at least that's my interpretation.

 

[FuriousWO]

@mercury sorry that was another thread but this is the quote from their site that I'm referring to
"Please not that our samples were done on pharmaceutical grade, all counterfeited product even if it contains the right hormone but it is cut with other chemicals might show different reaction."
So this really says that testing UGL where we don't know what else is in it is completely unreliable. What am I (and it seems many others now) missing or what don't we understand that makes you so sure it's infallible?

 

[MANWHORE]

IMO the canola oil screwing the LM results and passing bloods is a good thing..

LE doesn't find shit, and we still get results..

What do YOU think Johnny?

 

[mercury]

@mercury sorry that was another thread but this is the quote from their site that I'm referring to
"Please not that our samples were done on pharmaceutical grade, all counterfeited product even if it contains the right hormone but it is cut with other chemicals might show different reaction."
So this really says that testing UGL where we don't know what else is in it is completely unreliable. What am I (and it seems many others now) missing or what don't we understand that makes you so sure it's infallible?

I think that it means if you get result like in their reference chart then you have good quality product. This is how it works it shows you that you have good product.

 

[bdg77]

you can buy acid on ebay or lemon juice and play in your garage, I am not going to argue with it. Labmax is like nothing else I have see before and I am sure that they will be some cheap copycats.

But if you are coming with some claims you need to have serious lab to support it.

Labmax is certified for use by LE, customs by state labs. It is reliable tool. Go and tell them to use your acid they will laugh at you. Sorry but I will not be changing for your acid.

I rather spend $150 on refill which comes with 40 test vial than on some cheap shit which has no credibility.

Labmax is a good tool for LE and customs, agreed. Doesn't matter how much it costs, it's covered by our tax dollars. These are things that don't make it such a great tool for us. LE and customs don't care how pure it is. They also don't use the stuff that doesn't pass and get great results. They don't have to make it any better. And when the stuff is already in a labeled bottle I don't think they even need to bother testing. All I'm saying is they are comfy, their product is good enough for them and LE. Without some competition nothing is going to change.

 

[dredd09]

Acid just eats through stuff? And I'm the fucking idiot? Get a clue buddy . What the fuck do you think labmax reagent is made is made from? Magic ? Ask a chemist about reagent testing . Dummy.

 

[mercury]

some idiot posted something and you just repeat.

if you want to dispose dead body you dump into acid, nothing is left, nothing, no DNA.

and what do you thing is left from hormone mixed with acid.

you do not have clue what you are talking about

 

[dredd09]

Ever heard of Mecke, Marquis, Mandelin ? All tests for presence of drugs.... All containing high percentage SULFURIC ACID... Along with things like formaldehyde, selenious ACID, and ammonium metavanadate. Have you even ever heard of Clarke's? Heres a link so you can get educated.

You either have vested interest in labmax , or have shown how little knowledge you actually have on the subject of reagent testing. Either way in those cases, voicing your opinion about how much you "like" labmax is pointless, because you have not even a high school level chemistry understanding apparently. I know the books expensive, but heres a clue : inside those 2200 pages lies several colormetric tests you can make for steroid presence. Good luck. Hope you like knowledge. Cuz you just been schooled. Im Walter Kronkite, and that's the way it is.

 

[mercury]

you are talking about drugs not steroids.

I have seen the high school bench chemistry,

We went with other guys 10, 20 years ago with similar shit nothing worked.

The discussion has been going on for a long time, there is nothing new you show, which really works

But I guess you were not born ever 20 years ago.

now another retard 50 years later thinks that he discovered America. there is nothing new about your book of revelations but it never worked.

I appreciate your time but you do not have clue about this.

 

[dredd09]

Funny how it works for doctors and lab workers across the world since the sixties as a reference. Also funny how its in the fourth edition, published in 2002, but doesnt work? Your discrediting real science.. ELISA, Clarkes, even machine testing uses solvents to purify and dissolve samples for testing. ACID DOESNT MAKE THINGS DISSAPEAR. Sorry to inform you but even your precious labmax is nothing but reagent solvent and acid mixed. Your right, there's nothing new. Because its been proven. Over and over. Maybe the ones you "went with twenty years ago" were on to something and moved on and made a company called labmax . So you can buy it for outrageous prices because its "safe and ready to use". Jesus , open your mind and close your mouth, you might learn something if you studied it again after "20 years". Or keep buying labmax. Doesn't mean everyone has to follow suit. Its just chemicals in a bottle dude. No magic there.

 

[Drayen]

http://www.mmcinter.com/downloads/downloads/Steroid%20Substances%20ID%20Case-1.pdf
steroid test A: Sulphuric acid 90-97%
steroid test B: Sulphuric acid 90-97%
stanozolol oxandralone test sulphuric acid 90-97%

(http://www.mmcinter.com/downloads/)

Now that's out in the open, we just have to figure out what the remaining 3-10% is. Those who think acids are scary and simply destroy a chemical with nothing useful coming about of it, can and should sit off to the side while the grown ups talk.

I got a laugh out of the
"you can also argue to by a chicken and have your own eggs or just make your own car from parts on ebay or just bake your own bread
why the fuck did you buy furniture just pick up some nails and wood in the forest."
comment.

A more accurate statement would be "you could buy a ready made protein shake, or you could add powder to milk" or "you could buy a sandwich, or you can add some meat to bread"

Intelligent discussion......and GO!