Needles to say everyone needs to take precautions.
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p-lethal
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ProMuscle locked the new thread already. They've also banned a couple of members who posted legitimate criticisms of the forum.
FlashJordan asked for answers from ProMuscle's mods this morning. Note his status. They don't even try to hide their contempt for their members. LMAO
The first response from a mod was the typical ProMuscle bullshit - deny responsibility and blame the customer. And this denial was in spite of MAINEVENT giving Frank his official endorsement!!!
Of course now that the thread has been deleted, MAINEVENT's endorsement is gone too. Very convenient.
as everything is starting to unfold now this should show everyone that not EVERYTHING on PM is a conspiracy to scam everyone. this shit happens all the time in the drug dealing business period. threads were deleted for security purposes and people were banned for blaming mods after being warned.
iintensity
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Remember that sponsor Asia Force? That was run by the mod Mike. Many were fucked over.
p-lethal
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to be honest no i don't.
G.I. Bro
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Exactly. Some of you guys get ridiculous with your theories. When they hear about a bust, they clean the thread. It protects the board and the sponsor/source to be honest. LF actually requested it all be taken down when they felt the heat apparently. It wasn't a cover up. But when people bitch about bad gear in a paying sponsors own thread, it will also get deleted too. It's irritating sometimes when you know the complaint could be valid. And this makes it easier to cry foul if you don't look at the situation carefully. But the reality is the mods are put in the strange and precarious position of protecting the business interests of paying sponsors, and their control of the content in their own sponsor threads (marketing they paid for), while also not condoning the active scamming of their members and protecting members once it's undeniable they are being abused. It's a tight rope walk and a tough position. You can't hardly win in that position.
The owner/MODs at PM certainly have an interest in having many sponsors paying their regular monthly dues (high) and staying in good standing. This gives them access to the customer base. Scams or sources going bad is as much of a headache for the admin as anything and is also bad for business. But PM mods or the owner have no interest in scamming members or actively backing a sponsor who rips people off. That's just stupid. Their more legal business model is a safer and lucrative one. Sources must pay to post and advertise. Board owner doesn't want to be involved/linked in the sale of juice at all. Why involve yourself in illegal activity if you don't have to. A forum owner or mods may not be responsible for the private activity of its members, even ones who pay to post there. It's a grey area. Most of the mods don't even want to be seen talking about using anything illegal let alone be associated with any real world selling operations. Wake up clowns. They want many lucrative paying sponsors and a thriving forum to keep that model sustained. More sponsors that keep members happy = nice smooth operation and more paying sponsors in general. When a sponsor like La Taille goes down, they lose money every month. You can call that what you want, or criticize that model, but saying the board itself is in on actively scamming for profit just doesn't add up and shows you don't understand how the business model is really designed over there.
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Bighead101
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So you're saying that a couple of mods or kilo members wouldn't scam a bunch of people for god knows how much money, because it's bad for the forum?
G.I. Bro
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I can conceive of a kilo club member or someone else being involved, or promoting a UGL sponsor for kickbacks. But the actual board admin/owners have interests that are not aligned with such scams. His mods are only aiming for the same thing. Their goal is many paying sponsors and no talk of scams whatsoever. Smooth business.
It's kind of amazing so many of you don't seem to understand. Then again, we are talking about meatheads here.
You guys can say whatever you want about PM. I see more informative posts on PED news, supplements, training science updates, nutrition etc in their open forum then here. That's what's entertainment to me, not the UGL talk (although I do that too). Some real solid members there. I like posting there as well. But I know what business model is in place and you have to understand that or you're going to bitch about it, go against the grain, and get banned for being a martyr (which I have also done).
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G.I. Bro
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I think half the members here are prior bitter perm banned pm members lol. You're obviously still reading the banned forums, as I am. Except I'm not bitter and I want unbanned lol.
I'd be surprised if this bust had anything do do with Frank. Every time a sponsor scams, ProMucle trots out the busted excuse.
Regardless, even if he was busted, deleting threads does NOTHING for security. The dea already have any info that was posted in those threads. The reason the thread was deleted was to make the problem disappear from ProMuscle; so members in the future will not see evidence of sponsors scamming; and to hide MAINEVENT's endorsement.
The members who were banned weren't disrespectful to the mods, they rightly pointed out the fact that ProMuscle will accept ANY sponsor that is willing to pay the ad fees.
Bighead101
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Now i see why you're defending Pm. Trying to get back in their good Grace's.
G.I. Bro
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Yes I'm part of the Grand conspiracy as well.
G.I. Bro
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They just don't want a bunch of negative talk of busted sponsors, legal issues, etc on their board or sponsor threads. It's bad for business and bad for their own (board) security/exposure. I agree the sources goose is already cooked at that point, not really what I was saying. Still not sure why this shocks everyone.
Yes they'll give a new paying sponsor a shot. What are they supposed to do? Do some of those sponsors shit the bed later? Yes. But the point is that doesn't make pm administration complacent with scammers. That's all I'm saying. The business model is what it is and makes the mods walk both sides, it's a slippery slope.
You obviously didn't see the Pacman/Horizon scam unfold. Pacman ran a huge GH scam with help from Kilo club members. After Pacman was gone, ProMuscle let him reopen under the name Horizon and the scam continued. The mods and admin knew Pacman and Horizon were one and the same, but they accepted his ad dollars regardless.
You guys accuse everyone that didn't drink the ProMuscle Kool Aid of being meatheads. Believe what you will but don't be surprised when those of us who know what's going on expose the nature of that forum.
Regarding the "quality" of information available on ProMuscle, it's a joke. If you think the information quality on ProMuscle is superior to Meso, then you're the meathead. I look at the discussions there once in a while and shake my head at the utter stupidity - tren gyno, E2 rebound, hCG desensitization, and on and on. It's nothing but bro science and a few clowns posting studies they've misunderstood. Meadows and Starnes offer NOTHING to the forum. They are only there to troll for clients. Promuscle's SOLE purpose is to make Andrei money off sources.
Bighead101
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Didn't know PMuscle had a Public Relations department.
G.I. Bro
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I'm just saying the business model is what it is there. Not here to debate that aspect. You either recognize and accept it or you don't. It's your choice. I'm not a bad dude because I want to post on PM too. But I disagree the owner or mods actively seek out to organize mass scams, or enable a sponsor with a known intent to scam. I just don't see that being in line with their goals to keep members coming and paying sponsorship growing (ie more board revenue through dues).
michaltyler
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Either way, it's shitty.
You simply enjoy the pat on the head you get from mods there when you post after a member makes a legitimate post about being ripped off.
You hold big A in such high regard. You sound like you feel you are one of his peers? You aren't.
Big A has his lawyer to help keep him out of prison. But know, he is wanted. Wanted on conspiracy charges. If you want to try and say he's a legitimate businessman then you aren't as bright as you think you are.
The entire staff is on the take as well as the kilo klub etc. The receive free gear from the sources to protect them from business being slowed by legit concerns about shit gear and not receiving product in the case of Frank.
The sources pay bigA and big A pays his staff. It's all illegal drug money. It's a rico case whenever the feds feel like wrapping it up.
OLM and its owner were named in a federal indictment in 2002. Conspiracy to distribute aas and money laundering .
The great info, etc that you say is so wonderful is there to give the appearance of the board being something other than what it is. It harbors the criminals that pay the boards bills and bigA's fat salary and those of the staff of pm. Its all done with income from selling scheduled drugs.
Believe me. Those who know me know I have no issue with buying and selling aas and anything else consenting adults want to consume. It's the stealing money from the community and the covering up that I have issues with.
