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[G.I. Bro]

You simply enjoy the pat on the head you get from mods there when you post after a member makes a legitimate post about being ripped off.
You hold big A in such high regard. You sound like you feel you are one of his peers? You aren't.
Big A has his lawyer to help keep him out of prison. But know, he is wanted. Wanted on conspiracy charges. If you want to try and say he's a legitimate businessman then you aren't as bright as you think you are.
The entire staff is on the take as well as the kilo klub etc. The receive free gear from the sources to protect them from business being slowed by legit concerns about shit gear and not receiving product in the case of Frank.
The sources pay bigA and big A pays his staff. It's all illegal drug money. It's a rico case whenever the feds feel like wrapping it up.
OLM and its owner were named in a federal indictment in 2002. Conspiracy to distribute aas and money laundering .
The great info, etc that you say is so wonderful is there to give the appearance of the board being something other than what it is. It harbors the criminals that pay the boards bills and bigA's fat salary and those of the staff of pm. Its all done with income from selling scheduled drugs.

Say what you want, but if you actually knew me, my style and my posting history at PM, you'd know that's not accurate. I'm never looking for a pat on the head. Banned several times for voicing concerns on this topic there and recently perm'd for talking back to a mod about another ban. So painting me with that brush is definitely just not fair.

I think someone can exist on PM and meso simultaneously, still see things for what they are, and the universe won't implode.

 

[blaze918]

It's a shame things turned out this way...I do hope everyone continues to post up bloods, however I for one won't put too much weight on bloods posted by new members. The best bloods I ever had were from TNT Pharma back in the day...I was bummed when they got busted. Also had decent bloods from LF - not as high of a TT score but we all know there are a million factors that play into the test results...but of course they're gone now too.

I had no idea PM was edited so much...I guess I'm just one of the more ignorant members...or at least I was until I started reading more over here!

 

[Never Been Pinned]

@G.I. Bro What was the point of posting this on pm then? And don't hit me the I was looking out for the people over there bs.

 

[Matixx]

I heard La Taille just got busted.

 

[problem]

Or he scammed everyone... Ppl on pm are bunch of idiots.. They jump all over a source and suck his dick then cry when they get scammed. Bunch of fools... they trust these "vets" , bunch of clowns that get free gear
One of them is GS or GC ; whoever that phaggot is nutthugging every new sponsor for free gear. It's easy to spot a scammer... ppl weren't receiving but posting how good the source is..

Some dumbasses ruin it for everyone. That's why meso is where you get the truth...

 

[BaddestManOnThePlanet]

You obviously didn't see the Pacman/Horizon scam unfold. Pacman ran a huge GH scam with help from Kilo club members. After Pacman was gone, ProMuscle let him reopen under the name Horizon and the scam continued. The mods and admin knew Pacman and Horizon were one and the same, but they accepted his ad dollars regardless.

You guys accuse everyone that didn't drink the ProMuscle Kool Aid of being meatheads. Believe what you will but don't be surprised when those of us who know what's going on expose the nature of that forum.

Regarding the "quality" of information available on ProMuscle, it's a joke. If you think the information quality on ProMuscle is superior to Meso, then you're the meathead. I look at the discussions there once in a while and shake my head at the utter stupidity - tren gyno, E2 rebound, hCG desensitization, and on and on. It's nothing but bro science and a few clowns posting studies they've misunderstood. Meadows and Starnes offer NOTHING to the forum. They are only there to troll for clients. Promuscle's SOLE purpose is to make Andrei money off sources.

LMAO. Meadows and Shelby have more knowledge of bodybuilding then this entire forum. Shelby is a pro? Who and what the fuck have you done for the community? You're one of dr jim's minions. You guys spread fake mass spec/hplc tests along with Angus from erods. You try to bring long time standing sources like Karius. But looks like Karius has been testing everything now, and everything is what its suppose to be and then some. Go back under dr jims desk..You guys keep looking like fools, and have already been exposed.

 

[G.I. Bro]

@G.I. Bro What was the point of posting this on pm then? And don't hit me the I was looking out for the people over there bs.

K1 took issue with me talking about meso, or endorsing it he thought. So I said, hey, look I've actually defended PM to my own detriment on meso and linked to this thread. Currently banned there for being critical of some mod action and saying it rudely. I may never be unbanned. You guys are pretty intent on making me out to be a certain way just because I've said I like participating at PM despite their business model. I didn't "drink the kool-aid" or whatever bs is alleged. I don't know how you can say that when you see what I've posted in this thread. Clearly, I recognize how their sponsor system works and why it bothers some. But that's a far cry from flat out accusing PM board staff and ownership of actively organizing mass scams of members.

I don't know why there has to be an anti-Meso camp and an anti-PM camp. It's kind of childish. I'd like to post on both, among other boards too.

 

[Bighead101]

K1 took issue with me talking about meso, or endorsing it he thought. So I said, hey, look I've actually defended PM to my own detriment on meso and linked to this thread. Currently banned there for being critical of some mod action and saying it rudely. I may never be unbanned. You guys are pretty intent on making me out to be a certain way just because I've said I like participating at PM despite their business model. I didn't "drink the kool-aid" or whatever bs is alleged. I don't know how you can say that when you see what I've posted in this thread. Clearly, I recognize how their sponsor system works and why it bothers some. But that's a far cry from flat out accusing PM board staff and ownership of actively organizing mass scams of members.

I don't know why there has to be an anti-Meso camp and an anti-PM camp. It's kind of childish. I'd like to post on both, among other boards too.

Dude just stop. You're trying to get unbanned by sucking PMuscles dick. You just admitted it. No one cares if you like to post on both forums. But using this forum to craddle the balls of mods on Pm is just pathetic. You can say you'renot doing it, but you are. You really think that your little charade here is impressing anyone on Pm? It certainly is only damaging your reputation here at meso. Maybe you should stop while you're ahead.

 

[G.I. Bro]

Or he scammed everyone... Ppl on pm are bunch of idiots.. They jump all over a source and suck his dick then cry when they get scammed. Bunch of fools... they trust these "vets" , bunch of clowns that get free gear
One of them is GS or GC ; whoever that phaggot is nutthugging every new sponsor for free gear. It's easy to spot a scammer... ppl weren't receiving but posting how good the source is..

Some dumbasses ruin it for everyone. That's why meso is where you get the truth...

I do find it interesting GS was a huge cheerleader for LF, then became one for LT once LF was gone. LF had a very strong presence for a long time. Easily the most active sponsor thread. I was banned once before for issues id raised in their thread about their "marketing." It seems some guys will float from UGL to UGL and buddy up and promote them for kickbacks of free gear. When it's that obvious, he loses credibility which is his decision.

 

[G.I. Bro]

Dude just stop. You're trying to get unbanned by sucking PMuscles dick. You just admitted it. No one cares if you like to post on both forums. But using this forum to craddle the balls of mods on Pm is just pathetic. You can say you'renot doing it, but you are. You really think that your little charade here is impressing anyone on Pm? It certainly is only damaging your reputation here at meso. Maybe you should stop while you're ahead.

I'm neutral dude. I don't know where the venom comes from. I thinks it's clear I know what's going on, you don't have to "free my mind" for my rebirth at Meso. The problem is over there, if you even admit being a poster here, they assume you're against them (because many here are). I'm simply saying, look, here are my posts. I'm not talking shit on you at Meso (which was assumed). Claiming the mods actively scam members by design or plan scams is just unsubstantiated. If saying that makes me a cheerleader so be it.

All I want is my credibility. You can associate me as a PM lackey if you want, you can say I suck mod dick, etc. I think the facts of being banned for be critical of their actions and my posts show that's not exactly accurate. It's true I want to be unbanned there. But all I really want is to post and discuss UGL like you guys, on both forums, know the bad eggs from the good and report only my honest opinion and experience back to other guys, and get good insight from others too. When people see my name, I want them to at least know I'll be honest and I'm not a total moron. We're the only one's watching out for ourselves. When I do post, I'd like to be recognized as someone who'll keep it real and not bullshit. Not a shill or something. But that may not happen here and that's fine. I'd rather let future posts determine how I'm judged.

 

[problem]

I do find it interesting GS was a huge cheerleader for LF, then became one for LT once LF was gone. LF had a very strong presence for a long time. Easily the most active sponsor thread. I was banned once before for issues id raised in their thread about their "marketing." It seems some guys will float from UGL to UGL and buddy up and promote them for kickbacks of free gear. When it's that obvious, he loses credibility which is his decision.

LF had good kick ass gear. I lab maxed his EQ to find out it was test but I didn't care to post anything due to his customer services; TA n other good products.... I'm banned from PM. OTH is another phaggot that sucks sponsors dick too for free shit..

 

[G.I. Bro]

LF had good kick ass gear. I lab maxed his EQ to find out it was test but I didn't care to post anything due to his customer services; TA n other good products.... I'm banned from PM. OTH is another phaggot that sucks sponsors dick too for free shit..

There were some blood test results of a guy on HRT level LF test and Higher dose LF Deca. It showed his test serum way high, like the deca was just test too. Not even sure why LF would allow that to happen if it did because Deca raws aren't that expensive. If the labs were accurate, it was odd. I believed him personally, no reason to smear LF. He was a neutral member, no incentive. So they definitely had some issues at times. But the test and tren I had from them seemed decent. And their t/a and communication was fantastic. I didn't like some of their bs marketing tactics and claims related to their Parabolan (tren hex).

It's all a crap shoot though. Even a UGL with good intent gets bad batches of raws and stuff at times. It's all just made me trust UGL even less.

 

[Never Been Pinned]

I'm neutral dude. I don't know where the venom comes from. I thinks it's clear I know what's going on, you don't have to "free my mind" for my rebirth at Meso. The problem is over there, if you even admit being a poster here, they assume you're against them (because many here are). I'm simply saying, look, here are my posts. I'm not talking shit on you at Meso (which was assumed). Claiming the mods actively scam members by design or plan scams is just unsubstantiated. If saying that makes me a cheerleader so be it.

All I want is my credibility. You can associate me as a PM lackey if you want, you can say I suck mod dick, etc. I think the facts of being banned for be critical of their actions and my posts show that's not exactly accurate. It's true I want to be unbanned there. But all I really want is to post and discuss UGL like you guys, on both forums, know the bad eggs from the good and report only my honest opinion and experience back to other guys, and get good insight from others too. When people see my name, I want them to at least know I'll be honest and I'm not a total moron. We're the only one's watching out for ourselves. When I do post, I'd like to be recognized as someone who'll keep it real and not bullshit. Not a shill or something. But that may not happen here and that's fine. I'd rather let future posts determine how I'm judged.

Look my dude my only intentions are to keep it real up in this bitch. Idgaf how many boards u are on that's ur biz, I actually like the fact some people are on diff boards because it keeps me in the loop, especially with lab. I wouldn't have known the bs that was going on over there, what I don't like is peolpe with agendas... Not saying u have one

 

[Xlgx]

Gi bro. Seems the mods appreciated you standing up for them the way you have. You are a real stand up guy and they have unbanned you.

 

[G.I. Bro]

Gi bro. Seems the mods appreciated you standing up for them the way you have. You are a real stand up guy and they have unbanned you.

Lol. Is that sarcasm?

Which also goes to show you lot of you guys are prior banned members from PM accessing the banned account section with your old accounts because that section can't be seen publicly! I find that ironic.

I'm not trying to be a cheerleader or some shit but I absolutely do not believe Big A or MODs purposefully design scams or work with bad sponsors/UGL to intentionally pull off scams as has been clearly alleged here by several members. As I've beat to death in this thread, that's just silly because the business model is many paying sponsors with low complaint levels, not fleecing members directly in scams.

Some guys get carried away here sometimes. If you want to shit list me or my credibility bc I also post at PM and comply with the mods, so be it.

 

[Xlgx]

Lol. Is that sarcasm?

Which also goes to show you lot of you guys are prior banned members from PM accessing the banned account section with your old accounts because that section can't be seen publicly! I find that ironic.

I'm not trying to be a cheerleader or some shit but I absolutely do not believe Big A or MODs purposefully design scams or work with bad sponsors/UGL to intentionally pull off scams as has been clearly alleged here by several members. As I've beat to death in this thread, that's just silly because the business model is many paying sponsors with low complaint levels, not fleecing members directly in scams.

Some guys get carried away here sometimes. If you want to shit list me or my credibility bc I also post at PM and comply with the mods, so be it.

Sharp as a rusty butter knife....

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

LMAO. Meadows and Shelby have more knowledge of bodybuilding then this entire forum.

Your reading comprehension needs work. I never said they weren't knowledgeable, I said they bring nothing to ProMuscle except trolling for paying clients. I can see how an anencephalic like you would fail to note the distinction but do try to keep up, IM. It's a low of work having to explain everything over and over again.

Shelby is a pro?

You don't know? I though you knew everything. LMFAO

Who and what the fuck have you done for the community?

Irrelevant. Besides, I have no interest in being part of your "community." But rest assured I've done more than a dick rider like you EVER will.

You're one of dr jim's minions. You guys spread fake mass spec/hplc tests along with Angus from erods.

Once again, you show your lack of reading comprehension. I've always been critical Angus. You, on the other hand, were an Angus dick rider and you were actually dumb enough to use his "services," not once, but many times.

You try to bring long time standing sources like Karius.

When they sell bunk gear like Karius did, they get called out. There are no bag lickers on Meso like you and your boyfriend Myosaurus at AB. I don't know how Myosaurus can even look at himself in the mirror and still feel like a man. I guess that's because he enjoys being Karius' little bitch too much - just like you. Tell me, IM - when you and Myo bottom for Karius, do you get jealous when K starts with Myo first, and vice versa? I bet you do. LMFAO

But looks like Karius has been testing everything now, and everything is what its suppose to be and then some.

Testing everything NOW?!! He said he tested everything before. He lied then and he's lying now.

Go back under dr jims desk..You guys keep looking like fools, and have already been exposed.

The only thing you've ever exposed is your pathetic little pecker when you opened your raincoat on the playground.

Go back to AB and continue sucking up to the mods and PAYING for your phony VIP title. At least you can be 'ItalianMuscle' there, and not have to hide behind a fake account like the little cowardly bitch we all know you are.

BTW IM, I've seen your pics and all I can say is your body doesn't match your big mouth. Scrawny comes to mind. You better ask Starnes for a refund because it's not working. ROTFLMFAO

 

[Dr. Bob]

You simply enjoy the pat on the head you get from mods there when you post after a member makes a legitimate post about being ripped off.
You hold big A in such high regard. You sound like you feel you are one of his peers? You aren't.
Big A has his lawyer to help keep him out of prison. But know, he is wanted. Wanted on conspiracy charges. If you want to try and say he's a legitimate businessman then you aren't as bright as you think you are.
The entire staff is on the take as well as the kilo klub etc. The receive free gear from the sources to protect them from business being slowed by legit concerns about shit gear and not receiving product in the case of Frank.
The sources pay bigA and big A pays his staff. It's all illegal drug money. It's a rico case whenever the feds feel like wrapping it up.
OLM and its owner were named in a federal indictment in 2002. Conspiracy to distribute aas and money laundering .
The great info, etc that you say is so wonderful is there to give the appearance of the board being something other than what it is. It harbors the criminals that pay the boards bills and bigA's fat salary and those of the staff of pm. Its all done with income from selling scheduled drugs.

Not exactly.

BigA and his mods are most sources.
Gear sold on PM comes mostly from BigA's factories in Moldova and Romania.
Sources are simply remailers who choose to take the risk and make money from it.
They keep records of every transaction and will rat your ass if you complain of not receiving something.

 

[Dr. Bob]

Here's Andrei Dan Cadariu, aka BigA. Judge the picture yourself:

 

[kaizoku]

They banned those fuckers GS and Irish too.