Laboratory testing of AASs, GH, peptides...

So @Millard Baker would you use @Analyzer service to test products for anaboliclab.com
No, this would not be suitable for AnabolicLab's purposes. AnabolicLab would only use a fully-accredited and licensed testing facility that obtains its analytical standards from recognized providers of certified drug reference materials such as Steraloids, LGC Standards and Sigma-Aldrich AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, can be independently- and publicly-verified. AnabolicLab won't use anonymous people working at anonymous labs utilizing self-created standards.
 
so we have here bunch of trolls like colossus25 attacking everybody who does not endorse "analyzer"

it is getting more clear, a guy comes here offering testing but the lab cannot be verified as legitimate, no phone, no address.

Simec was the only legit lab fully-accredited and licensed people could trust, but they try to discredit Simec

we have bunch of shills endorsing the testing right away, I wonder how may will fall for the scam and pay for the fake testing
 
HPLC (high performance liquid chromatography) compares an "unknown" sample to a reference sample.
It is just chromatography -- a separation of a solution into its parts because each compound in the solution will interact differently with the substrate of the chromatography "column." I am simplifying it of course but you get the point: each substance will travel at different rates through the substrate. This is similar to when you spill water on a paper with ink writing on it -- the ink will separate into various colors (each color is a compound) and some travel further from the original spot because they interact less with the substrate (the paper).

So with HPLC you are running a known sample and measuring it's peak (when it comes out from traveling through the substrate. Then, you compare that with the unknown sample to determine the presence of and concentration of compounds in the solution.

HPLC will indeed confirm the presence (or lack thereof) and concentration of a compound if a good reference is available.



When applicable, GC/MS is superior in some ways because of the capabilities of MS.
GC (Gas chromatography) work similarity to HPLC except in this case the sample is run in the gaseous phase as opposed to liquid phase.
then each fraction is next passed into MS.

MS (Mass Spectrometry) is much more complex -- I will try to dumb it down.
With MS the sample (or fraction that was already isolated via chromatography) is ionized and fragmented, and accelerated around a bend in a magnetic field -- like cars turning a corner on a race track those with a greater mass with have a wider turn.
This way the charge to mass ratios are determined.
Compounds have distinct patterns and can be identified by the measure of the ions and the mass to charge ratio.
There are specific and predictable ways a molecule will fragment and each fragment is then detected resulting in the ability to deduce what these fragments must have originally been when they were a whole molecule.

Mass Spec schematic:
sashCFV.png
 
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No, this would not be suitable for AnabolicLab's purposes. AnabolicLab would only use a fully-accredited and licensed testing facility that obtains its analytical standards from recognized providers of certified drug reference materials such as Steraloids, LGC Standards and Sigma-Aldrich AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, can be independently- and publicly-verified. AnabolicLab won't use anonymous people working at anonymous labs utilizing self-created standards.
They claim to have both MS and HPLC machines
yet they haven't posted any equipment pics

Which leads all us to believe this is the only "equipment" they have
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Didn't you try to discredit SIMEC too once upon a time, for some reason?

I think so -- maybe I am wrong, but I think I remember some bashing of AL and people trying to plant seeds of doubt.

And now they are trying to bate you into saying something to support the bashing here.
They know you are not going to use an individual for AL testing -- so they say shit to prompt you to have you say reasons against using an individual and then they will display those statements as "proof" this service is bad.

For some reasons a couple guys are really worried about this, passionately bashing, and I can not understand why so much effort?
 
They claim to have both MS and HPLC machines
yet they haven't posted any equipment pics

Which leads all us to believe this is the only "equipment" they have
@Analyzer could have a doctoral degree in chemistry with access to a fully-accredited laboratory with a DEA license to purchase certified standards. But that isn't the only issue as far as AnabolicLab is concerned. If AnabolicLab can't post his name, the name of the analytical laboratory and contact information for the public to independently verify these details and the legitimacy of the lab reports produced then AnabolicLab can't use their services.
 
Didn't you try to discredit SIMEC too once upon a time, for some reason?

I could have some doubts since it was a new lab with no track record. I have seen too many fake lab reports to trust anybody right away. But they proved to be reliable service and this is what counts at the end.
 
at least on shill came out clean with full confession, waiting for the rest involved with the scam
you got some nerve doncha? how many times you get asked a simple question in this thread, and you refuse to address it in any way. saying either yes or no dont look nowhere near as bad as ignoring the question. mercury it looks sketchy as fuck. I would respect you more if you just answered it either way.

They claim to have both MS and HPLC machines
yet they haven't posted any equipment pics

Which leads all us to believe this is the only "equipment" they have
166-23032014082401.jpg


530394_L.jpg

plz go
 
so we have here bunch of trolls like colossus25 attacking everybody who does not endorse "analyzer"

it is getting more clear, a guy comes here offering testing but the lab cannot be verified as legitimate, no phone, no address.

Simec was the only legit lab fully-accredited and licensed people could trust, but they try to discredit Simec

we have bunch of shills endorsing the testing right away, I wonder how may will fall for the scam and pay for the fake testing
Bro you came here attacking @mands and on top of that claiming that gc/ms "cant be used to test aas". Dont try to twist Millard's words to make you right you fucking clown.
 
you got some nerve doncha? how many times you get asked a simple question in this thread, and you refuse to address it in any way. saying either yes or no dont look nowhere near as bad as ignoring the question. mercury it looks sketchy as fuck. I would respect you more if you just answered it either way.



plz go
If you look back through this thread i asked him about 4 times to post links to support his claims and he has failed to do so. To top it off he refuses to accept any of the facts that were presented to him. Then he tried to use @millardbaker post to support his fallacies. Mercury is a fucking hack.
 
HPLC (high performance liquid chromatography) compares an "unknown" sample to a reference sample.
It is just chromatography -- a separation of a solution into its parts because each compound in the solution will interact differently with the substrate of the chromatography "column." I am simplifying it of course but you get the point: each substance will travel at different rates through the substrate. This is similar to when you spill water on a paper with ink writing on it -- the ink will separate into various colors (each color is a compound) and some travel further from the original spot because they interact less with the substrate (the paper).

So with HPLC you are running a known sample and measuring it's peak (when it comes out from traveling through the substrate. Then, you compare that with the unknown sample to determine the presence of and concentration of compounds in the solution.

HPLC will indeed confirm the presence (or lack thereof) and concentration of a compound if a good reference is available.



When applicable, GC/MS is superior in some ways because of the capabilities of MS.
GC (Gas chromatography) work similarity to HPLC except in this case the sample is run in the gaseous phase as opposed to liquid phase.
then each fraction is next passed into MS.

MS (Mass Spectrometry) is much more complex -- I will try to dumb it down.
With MS the sample (or fraction that was already isolated via chromatography) is ionized and fragmented, and accelerated around a bend in a magnetic field -- like cars turning a corner on a race track those with a greater mass with have a wider turn.
This way the charge to mass ratios are determined.
Compounds have distinct patterns and can be identified by the measure of the ions and the mass to charge ratio.
There are specific and predictable ways a molecule will fragment and each fragment is then detected resulting in the ability to deduce what these fragments must have originally been when they were a whole molecule.

Mass Spec schematic:
sashCFV.png
@mercury take notes this is how you present facts and evidence.
 
I see this over and over again shills and trolls like colossus25 endorse some guy offering questionable testing, right away. They do not provide any evidence, we are just supposed to trust some anonymous guy. We are scammed here this fake gear and fake lab reports.

The good things is that trolls like colossus25 do not stay here long, once they are exposed and realize that they cannot make any money they move on.
 
so we have here bunch of trolls like colossus25 attacking everybody who does not endorse "analyzer"

it is getting more clear, a guy comes here offering testing but the lab cannot be verified as legitimate, no phone, no address.

Simec was the only legit lab fully-accredited and licensed people could trust, but they try to discredit Simec

we have bunch of shills endorsing the testing right away, I wonder how may will fall for the scam and pay for the fake testing
Are you stupid? I didn't endorse any lab whatsoever all i said was that you were completely wrong about gc/ms not being able to properly test aas and provided evidence to prove so. Tag and quote me where i said "everybody should use analyzer". The only thing i said about analyzer was that he was correct about his testing methods. Stop being so butthurt because we proved you to be a fraud.
 
I see this over and over again shills and trolls like colossus25 endorse some guy offering questionable testing, right away. They do not provide any evidence, we are just supposed to trust some anonymous guy. We are scammed here this fake gear and fake lab reports.

The good things is that trolls like colossus25 do not stay here long, once they are exposed and realize that they cannot make any money they move on.
Lmfaoo yeah okay i came here to make money i have zero affiliation and NEVER not once endorsed anybody here. With every post you make you dig your hole deeper and deeper. You are just pissed because i exposed your false claims and the fact you used to accounts to try and credit yourself. Anyone can look through this thread and see what happened and what was said. @mands @Ripped do you see what this guy is saying about us?
 
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