lantus and humalog

[Anonymous35]

Yes slin is short for insulin. Fun fact, insulin is the only AAS/PED that can kill you and one you can buy without a prescription. No I am not trying to discourage you from becoming a mass monster just saying make sure you know what the fuck you are doing. I'm personally to stupid to fuck with slin (I sometimes forget if I injected or not) lol.

Lantus is safer the hypo isn’t as intense as novorapid for example

 

[Anonymous35]

Sure bro, I don’t agree with using insulin before sleeping. If you need to do that though, that’s fine, just maybe not my cup of tea. And I don’t think that using lantus as a prophylactic for lowering blood sugar or A1C should come before cardio and other things.

10iu is fine to start people off safely. Low doses of humalog are fine too. It’s 100% not risk free even at moderate doses. Can it be safe in many situations? Yes. Do I feel safe using insulin. Yes, extremely because my food schedule is very consistent, and so is my insulin timing.

BUT people can get hurt from it.

I personally know guys who have almost passed out because they miss meals or some weird stuff comes up in their day and they were advised to stop using it because it got to the point where it was legitimately life threatening.

It’s not for irresponsible people, or people who have poor/inconsistent dietary habits.

Personally i also think the drug protocols you’re talking about for 30 iu before sleep sounds unnecessary.
Ime having it 1-2x a week with high days is more helpful, and using humalog at low-moderate doses pre and post training is a lot simpler and requires less drugs overall but goes a long way. Also I don’t agree with hgh always being ideally used before sleeping, and there are several ways to use it depending on goals. Personally I use hgh pre workout timed specifically with humalog to attempt to counter lipogenisis that can occur with insulin use. In the past I have used insulin without gh, and with gh before bed, and the results with it being used alongside humalog have been the best for my off season.
Not to say that there is anything wrong with it before sleep, but I think there are other effective ways to use it.

I believe yes gh before bef
And lantus at the morning

Unless you’re diabetic type 1 no reason to take lantus at night

 

[Anonymous35]

good question, maybe theres more to it. however:
Yes, many diabetics do experience nerve damage, a condition known as diabetic neuropathy. This is a common complication of diabetes, affecting a significant portion of diabetic patients:

1. Nearly 50% of adults with diabetes develop diabetic peripheral neuropathy during their lifetime
   
   
2. The overall prevalence of diabetic peripheral neuropathy across different countries is estimated at 26.71%, though this varies considerably between regions
   
   
3. In type 1 diabetes, the prevalence of diabetic neuropathy is around 28.70%, while in type 2 diabetes, it's higher at about 50.70%
   
   
4. Approximately 7.5% of patients already have neuropathy at the time of diabetes diagnosis
   
   
5. Even among newly diagnosed diabetics, the prevalence of peripheral neuropathy is about 26.52%
   
   The risk of developing nerve damage increases with factors such as longer duration of diabetes, poor glycemic control, age, and the presence of other complications like hypertension and cardiovascular disease

While not all diabetics will develop nerve damage, it's a significant concern that requires regular monitoring and management to prevent or slow its progression.

diabetes can affect everything in the long run
You’re vision, kidney, liver, pancreas, heart, skin,brain…

When i was at the hospital for my nephrotic syndrom, everybody was diabetic

 

[Anonymous35]

It's worth mentioning that 1iu of Insulin equals to 1 tiny mark on syringe while 1 out of peptides (gh) 10iu mark on syringe. That's how people inject 100iu Instead of 10iu asking for hypo. Hope this hel

I experimented with short R and medium N walmart insulin protocols. Not as scary as it seemed at smaller doses (10-15 iu) as long as you have a supply of fast digesting sugars on hand. I used dextrose. The Novolin R has it's peak at 1.5 hours and 4.5 hours. I take 10-15 iu 1.5 hours prior to first rep and chase every set with coorersponding sips of dextrose (100-150 grams diluted in water with EAA) the usual ratio is 1IU to 10 grams of dextrose. I felt what hypo feels like without the fast sugars on hand. Not fun experience. Have sugars on hand. The pump is superb as nutrients bypass liver and get straight to the cells from blood. Test the sugar before post-workout meal to be under 80 and showel chicken/rice as second peak approaches. This might be too much for some, but becomes a routine. The N insulin is much smoother without sharp peaks but has no place in my routine. The long acting insulin is used when you have your meals dialed in and/or diabetic. It keeps sugar steady for a full day depending on a brand. Test your blood sugars regularly at first. It becomes second nature when you know the feeling of low sugar. The top (long) brands are Triceba , Toujeo. The short acting is Humilin R ( starts in 30 min}. I use $25 walmart brand Novolin R. Works for me. Hope this helps someone. Test your sugars! Glucose meters are cheap insurance.

1ui = 10g of carbs is for diabetic type 1, because they don’t produce any insulin
So be careful because you will produce insulin too and risk for hypo

 

[Ateam2023]

good question, maybe theres more to it. however:
Yes, many diabetics do experience nerve damage, a condition known as diabetic neuropathy. This is a common complication of diabetes, affecting a significant portion of diabetic patients:

1. Nearly 50% of adults with diabetes develop diabetic peripheral neuropathy during their lifetime
   
   
2. The overall prevalence of diabetic peripheral neuropathy across different countries is estimated at 26.71%, though this varies considerably between regions
   
   
3. In type 1 diabetes, the prevalence of diabetic neuropathy is around 28.70%, while in type 2 diabetes, it's higher at about 50.70%
   
   
4. Approximately 7.5% of patients already have neuropathy at the time of diabetes diagnosis
   
   
5. Even among newly diagnosed diabetics, the prevalence of peripheral neuropathy is about 26.52%
   
   The risk of developing nerve damage increases with factors such as longer duration of diabetes, poor glycemic control, age, and the presence of other complications like hypertension and cardiovascular disease

While not all diabetics will develop nerve damage, it's a significant concern that requires regular monitoring and management to prevent or slow its progression.

well you got the "chat gpt" down , ffs post something "useful" instead of parroted bs,,,,,, Carry on and have a Merry Fucking Xmas,,,,,,,

 

[KZChoppers1]

1ui = 10g of carbs is for diabetic type 1, because they don’t produce any insulin
So be careful because you will produce insulin too and risk for hypo

Good point. That ratio has worked for me so far.

 

[Anonymous35]

Good point. That ratio has worked for me so far.

Yep i guess but when you started at first you probably had some hypo ?

 

[KZChoppers1]

Yep i guess but when you started at first you probably had some hypo ?

I experimented with it. At small dosage (under 15iu) reading of 30 on glucose meter can be fixed within minutes. I got a feeling what it's like and keep dextrose nearby in those cases without measuring blood glucose all the time. It's been pretty steady progress otherwise. I think I just get my kicks from being in the danger zone.

 

[eery]

good question, maybe theres more to it. however:
Yes, many diabetics do experience nerve damage, a condition known as diabetic neuropathy. This is a common complication of diabetes, affecting a significant portion of diabetic patients:

1. Nearly 50% of adults with diabetes develop diabetic peripheral neuropathy during their lifetime
   
   
2. The overall prevalence of diabetic peripheral neuropathy across different countries is estimated at 26.71%, though this varies considerably between regions
   
   
3. In type 1 diabetes, the prevalence of diabetic neuropathy is around 28.70%, while in type 2 diabetes, it's higher at about 50.70%
   
   
4. Approximately 7.5% of patients already have neuropathy at the time of diabetes diagnosis
   
   
5. Even among newly diagnosed diabetics, the prevalence of peripheral neuropathy is about 26.52%
   
   The risk of developing nerve damage increases with factors such as longer duration of diabetes, poor glycemic control, age, and the presence of other complications like hypertension and cardiovascular disease

While not all diabetics will develop nerve damage, it's a significant concern that requires regular monitoring and management to prevent or slow its progression.

Yes, diabetics can get nerve damage. What does this have to do with roidguts?

 

[KZChoppers1]

Yes, diabetics can get nerve damage. What does this have to do with roidguts?

How do I grow a new roid gut? Do new guts really grow? My guts were removed 9 years ago (IBD surgery). I'm left with a small pouch in that department and 160lbs last 8 years. Put on 60 lbs of good mass over 1 year started using basic self prescribed TRT regimen. A riod gut would be cool. Anyone?

 

[Anonymous35]

I experimented with it. At small dosage (under 15iu) reading of 30 on glucose meter can be fixed within minutes. I got a feeling what it's like and keep dextrose nearby in those cases without measuring blood glucose all the time. It's been pretty steady progress otherwise. I think I just get my kicks from being in the danger zone.

Yes sure hypo can be fixed
Now your body can to used to your administration of insulin

 

[KZChoppers1]

Yes sure hypo can be fixed
Now your body can to used to your administration of insulin

Well, I can only speak for myself. Yes, I'm confident regards hypo from R insulin under 15iu dose, (not 150iu)
Of course it can get used and I'm sure it'll like it since I take the load of 4500 calories off my pancreas daily. Do you see where this is going?

 

[Anonymous35]

Well, I can only speak for myself. Yes, I'm confident regards hypo from R insulin under 15iu dose, (not 150iu)
Of course it can get used and I'm sure it'll like it since I take the load of 4500 calories off my pancreas daily. Do you see where this is going?

Yeah absolutely and even the body gonna increase with the time some resistance to insulin that’s why a lot of bodybuillder used metformin too

 

[KZChoppers1]

Yeah absolutely and even the body gonna increase with the time some resistance to insulin that’s why a lot of bodybuillder used metformin too

That depends on individual. I'm sure there will be some damage down the road as with most exogenous substances. As for myself, it's cyclic for me. 12-16 weeks at a time and completely off after that. The pump and fullness are addictive thought.

 

[Slowww]

I believe yes gh before bef
And lantus at the morning

Unless you’re diabetic type 1 no reason to take lantus at night

That’s fair about gh, to each their own, nothing wrong with it.

Agreed on lantus, I also dose my lantus in the morning before meal 1.

Especially with glycogen dumping at night for some people, (somogyi rebound)— I think looking at A1C not just morning fasted insulin will be more useful, and using lantus to cover up glucose levels but not actually addressing the problem is problematic

 

[Jfrost89]

The blatant misinformation in this thread is mind blowing! I’d say none of you should use insulin!

 

[Anonymous35]

That’s fair about gh, to each their own, nothing wrong with it.

Agreed on lantus, I also dose my lantus in the morning before meal 1.

Especially with glycogen dumping at night for some people, (somogyi rebound)— I think looking at A1C not just morning fasted insulin will be more useful, and using lantus to cover up glucose levels but not actually addressing the problem is problematic

Yep that’s true but most of the Time if your glycemia is in check (0,7-0,9) g/l you A1C should be in the normal too

 

[Anonymous35]

The blatant misinformation in this thread is mind blowing! I’d say none of you should use insulin!

Then if everybody is wrong and you’re right then explain to us

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

1ui = 10g of carbs is for diabetic type 1, because they don’t produce any insulin
So be careful because you will produce insulin too and risk for hypo

It's also for type 2 diabetics if it's prescribed that way from the endocrinologist....

 

[narta]

Actually you need ALOT of insulin to go into coma and die. That said, the average gymbro doesn't need slin.