Largest Chinese Raws vendor bust and How Viagra(sildenafil) Raws will disappear in China

[calvin33]

So I'm pretty sure nothing major has happened over in China based on not 1 piece of news on any major steroid bust related, and at least 2 entities in China saying this isn't a credible claim.

This is not how things work in China. If the government didn't release any news about it, it will not be public. Something indeed happened.

I did find this article on a narco bust that has an arrest tied to a Chinese distributor and there were steroids mentioned as part of the collective haul. But at no point is this even close to a steroid raw deal arrest or marketed as such.

I don't think this case has anything to do with the one being discussed here

 

[mp46]

This is not how things work in China. If the government didn't release any news about it, it will not be public. Something indeed happened.


I don't think this case has anything to do with the one being discussed here

Says the guy who only made an account 2 and a half years ago to comment in Janos thread. Curious where you’re getting your info that something did happen and why you’re not actually saying what it was.

 

[ickyrica]

Do you suppose the penalties or legal consequences could be higher if the mode of delivery is through federal means? That's kind of how I took that statement.

don't think this case has anything to do with the one being discussed here

agreed.

Something indeed happened

other than the viagra ban that's been discussed, is there anything else you can add of substance.

Says the guy who only made an account 2 and a half years ago to comment in Janos thread

funny how that works, isnt it?

 

[T-Bagger]

Do you suppose the penalties or legal consequences could be higher if the mode of delivery is through federal means? That's kind of how I took that statement.

100%

 

[calvin33]

other than the viagra ban that's been discussed, is there anything else you can add of substance.

I only know that something happened. The reason, I don't know. And I believe nobody can know for sure yet. They weren't just a regular raw powder seller, but a very large one group. Had a very big and quality product list.

As for the agressive reply I already got and may get more, I have nothing to earn by getting into these needless quarrel I see happening so much, so I'll not waste time on it.

I wish I knew more about this as I'm also curious.

 

[T-Bagger]

I only know that something happened. The reason, I don't know. And I believe nobody can know for sure yet. They weren't just a regular raw powder seller, but a very large one group. Had a very big and quality product list.

As for the agressive reply I already got and may get more, I have nothing to earn by getting into these needless quarrel I see happening so much, so I'll not waste time on it.

Makes sense that Panda substantiated the claim.

 

[ickyrica]

I only know that something happened. The reason, I don't know. And I believe nobody can know for sure yet. They weren't just a regular raw powder seller, but a very large one group. Had a very big and quality product list

who? Please, elaborate on this claim of them being a large one group.

 

[mp46]

Talked to some of my sources, they're all parroting the same response; it was a large domestic Chinese supplier (no name given) but the international steroid business has not been effected. I don't want to strain the relationship I have with some people trying to dig for a name. It seems the consensus is that an unnamed domestic Chinese supplier was shut down but nothing to do with international raws suppliers we may deal with.

Not sure what Tom is talking about claiming it was raw suppliers we'd deal with and not sure what @calvin33 is referring to, something along the lines of Tom and our direct sources or as Panda said a China domestic producer.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Talked to some of my sources, they're all parroting the same response; it was a large domestic Chinese supplier (no name given) but the international steroid business has not been effected. I don't want to strain the relationship I have with some people trying to dig for a name. It seems the consensus is that an unnamed domestic Chinese supplier was shut down but nothing to do with international raws suppliers we may deal with.

Not sure what Tom is talking about claiming it was raw suppliers we'd deal with and not sure what @calvin33 is referring to, something along the lines of Tom and our direct sources or as Panda said a China domestic producer.

Dont know if it is pertinent or not...
Maybe my information can help someone solidify their suspicions of what happened....

Disclaimer: I dont know anyone within the pharma or UGL business...

Yet I do deal with Import/export of products out of China for many different products and reasons, so I am in contact with friends and suppliers over there, as well as visiting on occasion.

Apparently, I'm told there is a lot of nervousness around Shenzen, with some rumors.

Apparenlty involving a domestic manufacturer (no clue as to what they manufacture)

Could be totally unrelated.

No idea, maybe this confirms someone's suspicions?
Take it with a grain of salt

Cheers

 

[ickyrica]

Lol

Jesus Christ

 

[Thegreek]

@purplepandalabs if viagra raws are going to be rough to come by what about cialis. Why the focus on one and not the other.

 

[ohdangit]

This is about Yaunchang (sp) and pharmade?

 

[master.on]

As the delightful Tom from whichever shitty company just posted, there was a major bust in China. However, this major bust leading to the largest domestic Chinese distributor of various medical API(raws) being shut down wasn’t related to steroids. It was related to Sildenafil. So I looked into this to see what happened and this is what I found out.

There is one major(largest in China) domestic China raws seller. They sell an extremely large assortment of products so most raws sellers in China buy at least one or two things from them. However, the Chinese government is cracking down on sildenafil(viagra) raws sales. This particular company was the largest in China for selling Sildenafil domestically to all the raws sources. They imported their Sildenafil raws from India by the container load and sold it dirt cheap in China.

The company’s name isn’t extremely important because I doubt anyone here would know their name as they sold mostly domestically in China. So, moral of the story is this. If you know a raws seller who has Viagra, and is willing to sell it, now is the time to stock up. Because it is going to disappear like DNP did in China. Purple Panda Labs has already stopped selling Viagra raws for the time being. I still have 50kg stock of it in my warehouse, which, at a later time when the heat cools down here I will sell

Panda, I heard another story just now. The company was busted because they sold finished products in China.

So they got busted because they were selling finished products (viagra) to Chinese citizens without being approved by the (chinese) FDA?

If so, then I don't think wholesale viagra raw supplies for export are at risk at all.
They'd go to jail for selling domestically anything finished that's not FDA approved, even paracetamol (acetaminophen).

 

[Silentlemon1011]

So they got busted because they were selling finished products (viagra) to Chinese citizens without being approved by the (chinese) FDA?

If so, then I don't think wholesale viagra raw supplies for export are at risk at all.
They'd go to jail for selling domestically anything finished that's not FDA approved, even paracetamol (acetaminophen).

Welcome to China.

You can produce slightly altered Fentanyl without a peep from the government.

So long as it is ONLY distributed internationally.
Same goes with Raws.

If you try to sell any of those products domestically, you will disappear.

Pretty fucked up if you think about it.

 

[mp46]

Welcome to China.

You can produce slightly altered Fentanyl without a peep from the government.

So long as it is ONLY distributed internationally.
Same goes with Raws.

If you try to sell any of those products domestically, you will disappear.

Pretty fucked up if you think about it.

Same thing with fluorine in water. They don’t put it in their water but sell the fuck out of it to the US.