Least dangerous blasts on trt for >40

[Theworm]

Regarding the cardio toxicity of nandrolone, telmisartan is alleged to mitigate that affect. Trying to find the study/ies on which that is based.

That would be amazing if true.

In the past I would run trt and add 4-500 deca for 14 weeks and would have decent gains with no sides, hair didn’t shed at all. (I know hair is genetic but winny makes me shed a ton in the shower)...

 

[cochino]

I didn't ask them how much they'd charge me for a 10ml multi use vial as that wasn't what he wrote the script for, but it's a small family owned pharmacy up here and I'm sure they are more expensive than most places. Regardless, I wouldn't have a problem paying $75-100 for a 10ml vial but hopefully my insurance will be covering here pretty soon anyway so the point should be moot.

Ask your doc to write a script for a 10 ml vial. My buddy doesn't have insurance and with his good rx card he pays $35 at Walgreens.
You can shop around the pharmacies in your area because the prices will vary.

 

[MadBret]

I live in the mountains so not a lot of options close by but if I drive an hour or so, I can hit a big chain pharmacy. My doc is super cool and will work with me on it. That will be the plan in the next couple of months.

 

[M@NU]

be careful upping your test too much.
Not everyone reacts good to high test blasts.
If you are sensitive for E2 sides etc it might be an issue for you.
you said something about 150 TP eod which comes out to 525mg a week.
I would say try the water first, do your first 8 week blast with just 100eod so 350 a week and then you can judge by how you feel if you either increase or prefer to try anavar 25mg for 4 weeks in addition to 350mg a week or something like that..

 

[JC Grifter]

He wrote me a script and the local pharmacy wanted about $100 for two 1ml 100mg/ml vials. I jumped on trips bogo sale and got a lot more for my money. I don't have many options for pharmacies where I'm at and they couldn't compete with the prices I paid regardless. I figure I'll run this awhile and then let my numbers drop for a few weeks and get retested and eventually get my insurance covering it.

Download GoodRx. I usually pay in the $30s at Walgreens.

 

[cochino]

I live in the mountains so not a lot of options close by but if I drive an hour or so, I can hit a big chain pharmacy. My doc is super cool and will work with me on it. That will be the plan in the next couple of months.

1 vial will last you 2-3 months. I don't know about you but I usually go to the city about once a month and stock up on groceries. You can plan that time around your refill.

 

[Jet Labs]

He wrote me a script and the local pharmacy wanted about $100 for two 1ml 100mg/ml vials. I jumped on trips bogo sale and got a lot more for my money. I don't have many options for pharmacies where I'm at and they couldn't compete with the prices I paid regardless. I figure I'll run this awhile and then let my numbers drop for a few weeks and get retested and eventually get my insurance covering it.

Holy fuck lol. I do homebrewing and 100mls of test-e costs me less than $65 to make.

 

[Sampei]

be careful upping your test too much.
Not everyone reacts good to high test blasts.
If you are sensitive for E2 sides etc it might be an issue for you.
you said something about 150 TP eod which comes out to 525mg a week.
I would say try the water first, do your first 8 week blast with just 100eod so 350 a week and then you can judge by how you feel if you either increase or prefer to try anavar 25mg for 4 weeks in addition to 350mg a week or something like that..

500 is not high test blast. 500 is standard cycle dosage for beginner.

1g is high blast test territory, let's not be ridicolous here saying to be carefull on high test blast and then writing 500mg as an example.

Worse issue he can have is high e2 and sideffect associated with it. You can fix that problem in like few days with an AI so I would say that test blast is the safest cycle one can ever do.

Nothing is safer then test, well actually one thing is... Not doing a blast.

 

[shackleford]

500 is not high test blast. 500 is standard cycle dosage for beginner.

1g is high blast test territory, let's not be ridicolous here saying to be carefull on high test blast and then writing 500mg as an example.

Worse issue he can have is high e2 and sideffect associated with it. You can fix that problem in like few days with an AI so I would say that test blast is the safest cycle one can ever do.

Nothing is safer then test, well actually one thing is... Not doing a blast.

that would literally be nothing though.. lol

 

[Theworm]

500 is not high test blast. 500 is standard cycle dosage for beginner.

1g is high blast test territory, let's not be ridicolous here saying to be carefull on high test blast and then writing 500mg as an example.

Worse issue he can have is high e2 and sideffect associated with it. You can fix that problem in like few days with an AI so I would say that test blast is the safest cycle one can ever do.

Nothing is safer then test, well actually one thing is... Not doing a blast.

Well said. Since I’ve been doing this for 20 years I can’t do a beginner cycle! Lol

Maybe I’ll do 600 test cyp x 12 weeks, repeat 2x a year

 

[Sampei]

Well said. Since I’ve been doing this for 20 years I can’t do a beginner cycle! Lol

Maybe I’ll do 600 test cyp x 12 weeks, repeat 2x a year

Depends on your goal try 600mg test blast and see the results, if you arrive at the point wher no matter how hard you train and how many calories you ingest the only results you get is getting fatter then you have arrived at your maximum potential with that dosage. You have two option at that moment: increase dosage to 1g or call it a day and be happy of your physique.

Don't do orals, just do only test if you are worried of your health and longevity. Orals are not worth it unless you compete or you are ok with the toxicity and lipids wrecking. I loved orals in the past but I have quit using it, just a bit of anavar for nitrogen retention here and there once a year and max 40-50mg a day no more.

You can get a great physique on only test. Cut on TRT dosage, bulk on blast dosage and enjoy your life

 

[Theworm]

Depends on your goal try 600mg test blast and see the results, if you arrive at the point wher no matter how hard you train and how many calories you ingest the only results you get is getting fatter then you have arrived at your maximum potential with that dosage. You have two option at that moment: increase dosage to 1g or call it a day and be happy of your physique.

Don't do orals, just do only test if you are worried of your health and longevity. Orals are not worth it unless you compete or you are ok with the toxicity and lipids wrecking. I loved orals in the past but I have quit using it, just a bit of anavar for nitrogen retention here and there once a year and max 40-50mg a day no more.

You can get a great physique on only test. Cut on TRT dosage, bulk on blast dosage and enjoy your life

Thanks, appreciate the answer! How long do you run the var for? Just curious

 

[Sampei]

Thanks, appreciate the answer! How long do you run the var for? Just curious

No more then 25 days so almost 4 weeks.

I just grab a pack of it (100pills of 10mg) and run it at 40 or 50mg until the packages is finished. Can't bother to waste a little bit of a new package just to do perfectly 4 weeks.

So I do from 20 days to 25 days. Depends on the dosage. Usually I use it to break plateau on a longer cycle of injectables.

 

[Jet Labs]

No more then 25 days so almost 4 weeks.

I just grab a pack of it (100pills of 10mg) and run it at 40 or 50mg until the packages is finished. Can't bother to waste a little bit of a new package just to do perfectly 4 weeks.

So I do from 20 days to 25 days. Depends on the dosage. Usually I use it to break plateau on a longer cycle of injectables.

I like var around 80-100mg, but starting to think maybe giving up orals would be best for long term health.

 

[Theworm]

I like var around 80-100mg, but starting to think maybe giving up orals would be best for long term health.

I’m leaning that way as well. 2 weeks into anadrol at 50 mg my hdl went from 40 to 20 and ldl from 120 to 167... also my bp rose significantly. I remember one reading was 160/90 and I said fuck this

 

[Jet Labs]

I’m leaning that way as well. 2 weeks into anadrol at 50 mg my hdl went from 40 to 20 and ldl from 120 to 167... also my bp rose significantly. I remember one reading was 160/90 and I said fuck this

Well I wouldn’t have touched adrol to begin with lol.

 

[Theworm]

Well I wouldn’t have touched adrol to begin with lol.

Well when ur trt clinic offers it for you at 2 dollars a tab (50mg) it’s hard to pass up

 

[Jet Labs]

Well when ur trt clinic offers it for you at 2 dollars a tab (50mg) it’s hard to pass up

Hard to pass up why? Anadrol is notorious for skyrocketing bp and messing up cholesterol so why it's used for HRT I have no idea. I wouldn’t touch the stuff even if it was free lol. 20 years ago I would have eaten them like candy and chased em with whiskey, but no more of that nonsense for me

 

[Roco Bama]

Well when ur trt clinic offers it for you at 2 dollars a tab (50mg) it’s hard to pass up

Where the hell are you located my friend where you have trt clinics offering adrol, var and winny ?

 

[M@NU]

500 is not high test blast. 500 is standard cycle dosage for beginner.

1g is high blast test territory, let's not be ridicolous here saying to be carefull on high test blast and then writing 500mg as an example.

Worse issue he can have is high e2 and sideffect associated with it. You can fix that problem in like few days with an AI so I would say that test blast is the safest cycle one can ever do.

Nothing is safer then test, well actually one thing is... Not doing a blast.

yeah it is not high and im just speaking from my own experience. I had more sides on 600mg test P a week than ive head with a combination of 350mg test P and a dry compound like mast or primo.
There are individuals that react quite bad to e2 sides. High water retention, high BP, HCT/HB issues etc.
I am just telling him to be careful and include a test step with 350mg test a week. Wont hurt but help to judge individual drug response..