Least dangerous blasts on trt for >40

[Sampei]

yeah it is not high and im just speaking from my own experience. I had more sides on 600mg test P a week than ive head with a combination of 350mg test P and a dry compound like mast or primo.
There are individuals that react quite bad to e2 sides. High water retention, high BP, HCT/HB issues etc.
I am just telling him to be careful and include a test step with 350mg test a week. Wont hurt but help to judge individual drug response..

E2 sides can be controlled fairly easy, you are not gonna die or hurt yourself if you spend few days with higher BP or a bit bloated. If you did have those sides for prolonged time then you never controlled your E2 in the first place and is on you cycling badly and not on your body reacting bad from E2 lol

 

[M@NU]

well, you can control anything, but that just means other drugs with other sides.
AIs (atleast letro and Ari) are not really friendly on your lipids. Letro once wrecked my lipid levels to the same degree as a low dose tbol..
From his "list" test probably is the safest, yes, but i bet you 10€
350 test p + 400mg primo + a bit HGH is better for ones health than 600mg test p + same dose hgh..
but whatever, since he is 40+ he is old enough to decide the approach by himself

 

[Sampei]

well, you can control anything, but that just means other drugs with other sides.
AIs (atleast letro and Ari) are not really friendly on your lipids. Letro once wrecked my lipid levels to the same degree as a low dose tbol..
From his "list" test probably is the safest, yes, but i bet you 10€
350 test p + 400mg primo + a bit HGH is better for ones health than 600mg test p + same dose hgh..
but whatever, since he is 40+ he is old enough to decide the approach by himself

Man I'm sorry but you need to educate yourself more... Letro is very harsh as an AI and it wrecks your lipids because low E2 wreck your lipids. One can easily use aromasin or arimidex to manage E2 without having any wreckage on lipids.

He has no access to primo and primo is still a dht derivate so for an older person is probably less safe on the prostrate then higher test but we are splitting hairs here.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

He wrote me a script and the local pharmacy wanted about $100 for two 1ml 100mg/ml vials. I jumped on trips bogo sale and got a lot more for my money. I don't have many options for pharmacies where I'm at and they couldn't compete with the prices I paid regardless. I figure I'll run this awhile and then let my numbers drop for a few weeks and get retested and eventually get my insurance covering it.

i would have asked them "is this a pharmacy or a fucking gym?" They would look at me strangely, not getting the reference, but it's nicer than telling them to shove those little vials up their asses.

 

[M@NU]

Man I'm sorry but you need to educate yourself more... Letro is very harsh as an AI and it wrecks your lipids because low E2 wreck your lipids. One can easily use aromasin or arimidex to manage E2 without having any wreckage on lipids.

He has no access to primo and primo is still a dht derivate so for an older person is probably less safe on the prostrate then higher test but we are splitting hairs here.

for my goals my educational knowledge is enough thanks^^ i did say nothing else than you regarding letro. For my, arimidex wasnt much better.
You are missing the most important point in this whole game.. individual differences regarding compounds.
I would always suggest to start low and judge by feels if you can increase. It is simple, works well and costs nothing.

 

[Sampei]

for my goals my educational knowledge is enough thanks^^ i did say nothing else than you regarding letro. For my, arimidex wasnt much better.
You are missing the most important point in this whole game.. individual differences regarding compounds.
I would always suggest to start low and judge by feels if you can increase. It is simple, works well and costs nothing.

No you did say something completely different then what I said on letro.

Your statement is: letro rekt my lipids the same way of a low dose tbol.

First who is the tard using letro as an AI? Second the culprit of low lipids comes for the biggest part from low E2!

Have you tried aromasin? Have you tried arimidex? In what dosages? At what level of E2? Was the diet the same? Were you just on test?

Saying that AI wreck havocs on lipids without further proof or explanation is a bold statement and is misinformation.

 

[Test_Subject]

First who is the tard using letro as an AI? Second the culprit of low lipids comes for the biggest part from low E2!

Letro is fine as an AI as long as you know what you’re doing with it. I use it when I’m running high test cycles because I’d rather use 1.25 letro twice a week than slam aromasin every other day.

If you’re a complete noob and don’t know how you react to AIs or how much you aromatize the compounds you’re using, sure, it’s a poor choice.

 

[Theworm]

Where the hell are you located my friend where you have trt clinics offering adrol, var and winny ?

USA
Message me if you want more details

 

[Roco Bama]

USA
Message me if you want more details

It's just that I wasn't aware that trt clinics went as far to as providing adrol and winny to patients.

 

[malfeasance]

He wrote me a script and the local pharmacy wanted about $100 for two 1ml 100mg/ml vials. I jumped on trips bogo sale and got a lot more for my money. I don't have many options for pharmacies where I'm at and they couldn't compete with the prices I paid regardless. I figure I'll run this awhile and then let my numbers drop for a few weeks and get retested and eventually get my insurance covering it.

MadBret,

In the future, go to goodrx and put in testosterone cypionate in 10ml vials and go to whichever pharmacy is the cheapest (take the coupon from goodrx).

Looks like about 30 bucks per vial.

I hope this helps.

OOps. I did not see I was late and somebody else already told you about this.

Anyway, that's a cash price, no insurance involved.

 

[Sampei]

MadBret,

In the future, go to goodrx and put in testosterone cypionate in 10ml vials and go to whichever pharmacy is the cheapest (take the coupon from goodrx).

Looks like about 30 bucks per vial.

I hope this helps.

OOps. I did not see I was late and somebody else already told you about this.

Anyway, that's a cash price, no insurance involved.

I wish we had something like that in Italy lol

 

[M@NU]

No you did say something completely different then what I said on letro.

Your statement is: letro rekt my lipids the same way of a low dose tbol.

First who is the tard using letro as an AI? Second the culprit of low lipids comes for the biggest part from low E2!

Have you tried aromasin? Have you tried arimidex? In what dosages? At what level of E2? Was the diet the same? Were you just on test?

Saying that AI wreck havocs on lipids without further proof or explanation is a bold statement and is misinformation.

(PDF) ADVERSE EFFECT OF LETROZOLE ON LIPID PROFILE IN POSTMENOPAUSAL BREAST CANCER PATIENTS

PDF | Back ground: Letrozole, a third generation aromatase inhibitor, is considered superior to tamoxifine in the treatment of all stages of breast... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

there are tons more results on google, but i hope you are old enough to do that by yourself..

 

[Test_Subject]

(PDF) ADVERSE EFFECT OF LETROZOLE ON LIPID PROFILE IN POSTMENOPAUSAL BREAST CANCER PATIENTS

PDF | Back ground: Letrozole, a third generation aromatase inhibitor, is considered superior to tamoxifine in the treatment of all stages of breast... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

there are tons more results on google, but i hope you are old enough to do that by yourself..

To be fair, that study was done at a dose of 2.5mg per day for extended periods of time. We’re talking hormone positive cancer patients and the whole point of the treatment is to crush E2 to nothing.

You’d have to dig your E2 out of its grave to get it back if you took that much on cycle. It’s really not a realistic comparison.

 

[Sampei]

(PDF) ADVERSE EFFECT OF LETROZOLE ON LIPID PROFILE IN POSTMENOPAUSAL BREAST CANCER PATIENTS

PDF | Back ground: Letrozole, a third generation aromatase inhibitor, is considered superior to tamoxifine in the treatment of all stages of breast... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

there are tons more results on google, but i hope you are old enough to do that by yourself..

I guess your reading comprension is very low but I mean... From a guy that got hospitalised using the HGH of ciraws when we all told you to not being that retarded in trusting an unknown sources (your friend right? Lol) should I be surprised?

Again I asked you some specific questions you didn't answer, when you come back with answer from those questions we can start having a conversation, before is just bullshit speculation on your part, I don't waste my time on pointless debates.

Take care

 

[Bumpygooch]

It's just that I wasn't aware that trt clinics went as far to as providing adrol and winny to patients.

Anavar as well, GH, too. Lots of online TRT clinics offer it. Metformin, injectable carnitine, et al.

 

[MadBret]

In the future, go to goodrx and put in testosterone cypionate in 10ml vials and go to whichever pharmacy is the cheapest (take the coupon from goodrx).

Looks like about 30 bucks per vial.

I hope this helps.

OOps. I did not see I was late and somebody else already told you about this.

Anyway, that's a cash price, no insurance involved.

Ask your doc to write a script for a 10 ml vial. My buddy doesn't have insurance and with his good rx card he pays $35 at Walgreens.
You can shop around the pharmacies in your area because the prices will vary.

Download GoodRx. I usually pay in the $30s at Walgreens.

So, I downloaded the app. Cheapest within a half an hour is about $40 bucks. If I drive an hour, I can get it for $36 and some change.

That's a hell of a lot better than what my pharmacy wants to charge.

Appreciate the tip, gentlemen. Y'all have a good day.

 

[MadBret]

i would have asked them "is this a pharmacy or a fucking gym?" They would look at me strangely, not getting the reference, but it's nicer than telling them to shove those little vials up their asses.

Almost $100 for 2 vials of 1ml each 100mg/ml. So 200mgs of test for about $100 bucks. That's far worse than gym prices. Fucking thieves.

 

[Bumpygooch]

Almost $100 for 2 vials of 1ml each 100mg/ml. So 200mgs of test for about $100 bucks. That's far worse than gym prices. Fucking thieves.

Tell your local pharmacy about GoodRx and ask if they participate. I did that with mine, they were able to come down from $120 for 10ml 200mg/ml cyp to $55, cheapest in the area was $40, I was happy to pay $55 and give the mom and pop pharmacy the business.

 

[malfeasance]

I wish we had something like that in Italy lol

Sounds like a business opportunity. Goodrx has $141 million in revenue and is valued at almost $3 billion. That's a lot of lira.

 

[Sampei]

Sounds like a business opportunity. Goodrx has $141 million in revenue and is valued at almost $3 billion. That's a lot of lira.

I'll check it out and wonder why we don't have it... It's probably because it's not feasable, usually stuff like this are already done by big corporation or if they are not there is a reason.

We do have free healthcare mostly here in Italy so maybe that's why? I'll dig in and report back ahahah