Liberals, truly the most delusional

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Liberals: the people who say they believe in freedom of speech
Also liberals: support censorship of opinions they don't agree with.

Liberals: the people telling you "white supremecy" is the biggest problem in America.
When working class whites have the higher levels of addiction and suicide than Hispanic, black or Asian women and are the only ethnic group in America to face a declining life expectancy and quality of life and declining wages, liberals tell us thier "privilege " is a threat to us all.

Liberals blame the working class white men for the ruination of cities most of them have never been to, and blame them for declining test scores in schools they don't attend.

Liberals claim its their "priveledge" thats the biggest "threat to our democracy "




Those people are sick. Really sick


Liberals believe that...
1) ...it's impossible to come to any sort of reasonable compromise with conservatives on anything, but that we can fix our problems with nations like Iran and North Korea by just sitting down and talking things out.

2) ...they're the most compassionate people in society. Yet, in study after study, you find that conservatives give more of their money to charity than liberals.

3) ...they're not racist despite the fact that they consistently support policies that have been several orders of magnitude more devastating to black Americans than the Ku Klux Klan.

4) ...we've all got to dramatically reduce our carbon footprint to save the planet. Yet, liberals like Al Gore live in big mansions and fly around in private jets while still maintaining their credibility with their fellow environmentalist libs.

5) ...they're the people who are really looking out for women, but they strongly support sexual predators like Bill Clinton and they regularly hurl grotesque sexist insults at feminist role models like Sarah Palin who don't toe-the-liberal-line.

6) ...we definitely need to have higher tax rates in this country. Yet many of Obama's nominees and cabinet members, including the Secretary of the Treasury, don't pay their taxes as is -- and liberals are okay with that.

7) ...guns should be banned! Yet, while they want to take guns out of the hands of law-abiding Americans who live in dangerous neighborhoods, they believe liberal celebrities like Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell should be able to hire armed bodyguards.

8) ...they're the ones who really care about educating children; yet time and time again, they support policies that hurt our kids, but help their political allies in the teachers’ unions.

9) ...running deficits are bad! After all, liberals ceaselessly took credit for the budget being balanced during the Clinton years and attack Bush for his profligate spending, right? Yet, despite the fact that Obama is running an unsustainable deficit so large that it threatens the future of the country, liberals are perfectly fine with it.

10) ...college campuses are supposed to be places of learning and intellectual openness, but they approve of conservative speakers being attacked and shouted down.

11) ...they're gay-friendly even as they work to out gay Republicans and they often accuse the Republicans they hate the most of secretly being gay.

12) ...they're the ones who are champions of free speech, but liberals want to silence their most effective critics on talk radio via the Fairness Doctrine.

13) ...they're the ones who really want to stick to the Constitution. Yet, liberals buy into a "living Constitution," which is nothing more in practice than substituting your personal opinion for what's actually in the Constitution.

14) ...it was terrible for George Bush to detain terrorists indefinitely, to use extraordinary rendition to send them to other nations, and to withhold more photos of what happened at Abu Ghraib -- but, when Obama did the exact same things, few liberals had anything to say about it.

15) ...we have to move away from sources of energy like oil, coal, and nuclear power towards what they believe are more eco-friendly power sources like wind power. Yet, whenever anyone tries to build a wind turbine, it's almost always a liberal that attempts to stop it -- just as Ted Kennedy did because he was afraid his yachting view might be spoiled if the ideas he championed were put into practice.

16) ...they're courageous for speaking out against Republicans while Hollywood and the media cheer them on, but when the time comes to speak out against the abuses of radical Muslims, they're terrified into silence.

17) ...when someone despises America, we need to ask, "What have we done to make him hate us?" -- but, when someone despises liberals for what they're doing to the country, they conclude that person must be ignorant, bigoted, or evil.

18) ...it's morally abhorrent to put a serial killer to death, but that a mother killing her baby via abortion is merely a "choice."

19) ...we have to count every vote, except for members of the military serving overseas, most of whom are denied their right to vote because Democratic politicians deliberately delay in sending out their ballots until it's too late for them to be returned in time.

20) ...when they looked at information from our intelligence agencies and concluded that Saddam Hussein had WMDs, they were just mistaken -- but when George Bush looked at the same info and drew the same conclusion, he was lying.
 
Jesus H.

This has to be a troll post.

If you're going to post an argument, at least make it cohesive. Give examples and references.

Half of the points you make could ve said about conservatives too. And I doubt they could be any more vague.

Whether I agree with you or not is beside the point. Your logic and presentation of this side of the debate is a joke.
 
Jesus H.

This has to be a troll post.

If you're going to post an argument, at least make it cohesive. Give examples and references.

Half of the points you make could ve said about conservatives too. And I doubt they could be any more vague.

Whether I agree with you or not is beside the point. Your logic and presentation of this side of the debate is a joke.

It is pretty accurate though.
Most of those points have even pop culture evidence that's in the news.

You what's funny?

I was considered a Liberal when I was younger, I even voted Liberal.
My views and ideologies never changed, but apparently I'm a conservative now.

Go figure huh?
 
I don't like the dickheads on the left or right.

I'll admit though, the right scares the fuck out of me. These idiots are armed and I don't think they'd hesitate to kill. You don't do what they want and they'll blow your ass up.

The left are mostly pussies, barely any meat on their bones. People are hysterical these idiots are gonna take over and you know that's not true, I mean look at them, they look like they're starving.

As far as environmental laws crushing jobs in this country. The problem with the left environmentalism is that they think you can engineer yourself out of this problem and that is 100% horseshit. A windmill is almost 900,000 lbs of material, that's just one. Solar isn't too impressive either. All these so called green energy contraptions require huge amounts of mining and oceans of toxic chemicals. And even after that they would still force you to rely on oil and gas to take care of the peak energy hours.

The left have never been good at telling the truth, but neither have the right.
You want environmentalism, real environmentalism, try sodomy, nothing greener than that. Just don't fuck in the front hole anymore.
 
I don't like the dickheads on the left or right.

I'll admit though, the right scares the fuck out of me. These idiots are armed and I don't think they'd hesitate to kill. You don't do what they want and they'll blow your ass up.

The left are mostly pussies, barely any meat on their bones. People are hysterical these idiots are gonna take over and you know that's not true, I mean look at them, they look like they're starving.

As far as environmental laws crushing jobs in this country. The problem with the left environmentalism is that they think you can engineer yourself out of this problem and that is 100% horseshit. A windmill is almost 900,000 lbs of material, that's just one. Solar isn't too impressive either. All these so called green energy contraptions require huge amounts of mining and oceans of toxic chemicals. And even after that they would still force you to rely on oil and gas to take care of the peak energy hours.

The left have never been good at telling the truth, but neither have the right.
You want environmentalism, real environmentalism, try sodomy, nothing greener than that. Just don't fuck in the front hole anymore.

I really dont like Ultra Liberals.
I really dont like Ultra Conservatives.

If you're entire idealogy can be described by "Left" or "Right", you havnt thought enough about what you believe in

I may disagree with most of what you say, but at least you think.
Unlike the vast majority of Liberal and conservative hordes
 
Original post is cut and pasted propaganda. Not objective. Not accurate. Simply there to fuel some blog readership
 
Agreed
I dont like Modern Liberal values.

But pretending Conservatives are some sort of Living Saints... is quite inaccurate.
Modern liberal values while in the media all the time aren't the core of what liberals are.

Liberal values encourage questioning and doubting yourself and being open to what others have to offer. This is good because obviously we all have things to learn for the entire span of our lives.

Liberals used to be the safeguard against religious crap in our government. I didn't realize it, but growing up from the early 70's and 80's I never once heard any religious talk in school at all, never. And this is a time when we lived in a culture immersed in it. I find that completely amazing that there was actually a refuge from horseshit that people wanted to ram down my throat.

Liberals at least when I was growing up were respectful of difference, it wasn't fake respect. They looked for the person underneath the clown outfit.

Social Conservatives seem to demand that we live in a binary world, right or wrong. Closed minded, pigheaded, forceful. There is only one way to live and only one way. It's this sort of attitude that snuffs the joy out of life. Some of us are oddballs, we don't fit with the normies, my views are considered radical to most conservatives and they get pissed whenever I open my mouth.

People complain about Liberals being so regulated and guarded with their speech and this is true in extreme circles, but Social Conservatives have areas that you can never go and if you do they go berserk.

So I will always give the edge to the left because Conservatives over my almost 50 years have proven to me like talking to a brick wall, there are places debate can never go and so you have to delicately watch what you're saying and this allows the Conservatives to hold to these ideas because they won't allow us a chance to tear down their world view so we can open the cage and set them free.
 
Modern liberal values while in the media all the time aren't the core of what liberals are.

Liberal values encourage questioning and doubting yourself and being open to what others have to offer. This is good because obviously we all have things to learn for the entire span of our lives.

Liberals used to be the safeguard against religious crap in our government. I didn't realize it, but growing up from the early 70's and 80's I never once heard any religious talk in school at all, never. And this is a time when we lived in a culture immersed in it. I find that completely amazing that there was actually a refuge from horseshit that people wanted to ram down my throat.

Liberals at least when I was growing up were respectful of difference, it wasn't fake respect. They looked for the person underneath the clown outfit.

Social Conservatives seem to demand that we live in a binary world, right or wrong. Closed minded, pigheaded, forceful. There is only one way to live and only one way. It's this sort of attitude that snuffs the joy out of life. Some of us are oddballs, we don't fit with the normies, my views are considered radical to most conservatives and they get pissed whenever I open my mouth.

People complain about Liberals being so regulated and guarded with their speech and this is true in extreme circles, but Social Conservatives have areas that you can never go and if you do they go berserk.

So I will always give the edge to the left because Conservatives over my almost 50 years have proven to me like talking to a brick wall, there are places debate can never go and so you have to delicately watch what you're saying and this allows the Conservatives to hold to these ideas because they won't allow us a chance to tear down their world view so we can open the cage and set them free.
Thats my point exactly. There's little difference in the modern liberal ideology or the far religious right fanatics.

Liberalism, in the modern sense, is exactly like a religion. Absent a consistently applied moral code.
 
Jesus H.

This has to be a troll post.

If you're going to post an argument, at least make it cohesive. Give examples and references.

Half of the points you make could ve said about conservatives too. And I doubt they could be any more vague.

Whether I agree with you or not is beside the point. Your logic and presentation of this side of the debate is a joke.
Explain then exactly, what you have a problem understanding. I'd be happy to explain
 
Modern liberal values while in the media all the time aren't the core of what liberals are.

Liberal values encourage questioning and doubting yourself and being open to what others have to offer. This is good because obviously we all have things to learn for the entire span of our lives.

Liberals used to be the safeguard against religious crap in our government. I didn't realize it, but growing up from the early 70's and 80's I never once heard any religious talk in school at all, never. And this is a time when we lived in a culture immersed in it. I find that completely amazing that there was actually a refuge from horseshit that people wanted to ram down my throat.

Liberals at least when I was growing up were respectful of difference, it wasn't fake respect. They looked for the person underneath the clown outfit.

Social Conservatives seem to demand that we live in a binary world, right or wrong. Closed minded, pigheaded, forceful. There is only one way to live and only one way. It's this sort of attitude that snuffs the joy out of life. Some of us are oddballs, we don't fit with the normies, my views are considered radical to most conservatives and they get pissed whenever I open my mouth.

People complain about Liberals being so regulated and guarded with their speech and this is true in extreme circles, but Social Conservatives have areas that you can never go and if you do they go berserk.

So I will always give the edge to the left because Conservatives over my almost 50 years have proven to me like talking to a brick wall, there are places debate can never go and so you have to delicately watch what you're saying and this allows the Conservatives to hold to these ideas because they won't allow us a chance to tear down their world view so we can open the cage and set them free.
Liberals used to distrust government and authority. Liberals used to uphold freedom of speech whether they agreed with it or not.
Liberals used to be against wealth and priveledged.

None of it so anymore

Liberals weild government authority

Liberals are happy to suppresses any speech they don't agree with. Look at silicon Valley

Liberals are now representing wealth and privilege.

Liberals preach that we all must look different , but liberals demand that everyone must think the same. Liberals call that "diversity "
 
Tribalism at it's finest.... Truly one of the most cringe worthy posts I've ever read on the forum, and that's saying something. I'm not even a liberal... Disturbing post, 0/10, would not read again.
Maybe so mr. Fancy but ur a LIBERtarian. So only half of u wants to be offended. The other half is fiscally conservative :)
 
Liberals used to distrust government and authority. Liberals used to uphold freedom of speech whether they agreed with it or not.
Liberals used to be against wealth and priveledged.

None of it so anymore

Liberals weild government authority

Liberals are happy to suppresses any speech they don't agree with. Look at silicon Valley

Liberals are now representing wealth and privilege.

Liberals preach that we all must look different , but liberals demand that everyone must think the same. Liberals call that "diversity "

Although I will agree, modern Liberalism is an issue.
I'd say pointing out ONLY liberalism as an issue is incorrect.

One could argue the fanatiscm of the 90s conservatives led us to the place where Liberals have gone off the rails.
Even actions from G Bush starting Iraq and all that ensued for no reason, could help lead us to modern Liberalism.

Or the way at risk populations were treated, transformed qual opportunity to Equal outcomes and the issues we are having.

To say that either the Left or the Right are solely to blame, is covering up a lot of the issue
 
The issue isn't liberalism or conservatism, it's the all-or-nothing mentality that pervades politics. As soon as you refuse to believe that your "team" can be wrong and support them unconditionally, you're essentially sending your ability to reason up the rapids with no paddle.

Both sides of the debate have good ideas and both have terrible ideas. Unfortunately, moderation in politics doesn't appeal to many people because they prefer the spectacle of shit-flinging monkeys shrieking at each other.

As I often say, these politicians would burn your entire family alive if it would guarantee their election. They are not your friends. I don't understand the slovenly devotion toward them. It's sad to see people duped like they are.
 
The issue isn't liberalism or conservatism, it's the all-or-nothing mentality that pervades politics. As soon as you refuse to believe that your "team" can be wrong and support them unconditionally, you're essentially sending your ability to reason up the rapids with no paddle.

Both sides of the debate have good ideas and both have terrible ideas. Unfortunately, moderation in politics doesn't appeal to many people because they prefer the spectacle of shit-flinging monkeys shrieking at each other.

As I often say, these politicians would burn your entire family alive if it would guarantee their election. They are not your friends. I don't understand the slovenly devotion toward them. It's sad to see people duped like they are.
Great Post.

How about abolishing the two party system, removing party labels. Removing money from campaigning.

Have candidates sit down and debate, create a space where these debates can be streamed on tv, net, radio for free, flesh out their ideas, but get rid of all the parties, just ban that shit. If we detect you're going down an ideological path that links to a party then we eliminate you from the pool of candidates.

This produces a person that is rational, that has eliminated his/her bias and hopefully any extreme views.
 
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