LMC Tren E/Anavar Mass Spec/HPLC

nice graphs but the point is it can be anything.

let me give advice that those are fakes

oxadrolone mass is about 306 g/mol
trenbolone enan 382 g/mol

so the retention time for tren enan would be about 1.2 longer but on the graph it is 2 longer (50 min)

so it is fake, somebody knows how to use photoshop.

Yup, you are right, it's fake! Nobody buy from LMC, they sell all bunk crap powders. More for me! I have LMC powders right now, tren a and var is what I got. And let me say, they are just as potent/maybe better than any ugl I have tried...

Meso vets will always be skeptical little whiners... If they are going to post crap like that than I am glad they don't trust a single source because they do not deserve potent gear.

You all like to ask for mass spec from sources as if it's so so simple to obtain a mass spec on anything, but when a mass spec is released from a long-term reddit member who has no connection whatsoever and has no reason to lie, you call it fake? If anything, a source is more likely to fake a mass spec because their incentive is earning the trust of members so they will buy!

Anybody, and I say ANYBODY you purchase from could be selling low purity powders and finished products at any time. This is a game of chance you have to throw your money at some source if you want powders! It's not as if there are many reviews out there for powder sources. You have to take a shot somewhere...
 
Since I never said it "was a fake" define what you mean.

What I did say I'll stand by, which is the data posted is inconsistent with existing analytical lab standards.

Now that distinction is very important bc when done in accordance with contemporary laboratory practice the results are said to be "consistent with the substance listed".

See there really is no way for a bystander to determine if the sample that was tested is the same as that which is to be sold BUT red flags should arise whenever an UGL posts lab data that deviates from the accepted standard and as a consequence I'm skeptical of the results.

Why?

Bc damn near anyone with half a brain and a willingness to cheat others can locate this form of MS and/or HPLC info on several internet data banks, BUT what is rarely included is the complete data set I've mentioned!
 
Yup, you are right, it's fake! Nobody buy from LMC, they sell all bunk crap powders. More for me! I have LMC powders right now, tren a and var is what I got. And let me say, they are just as potent/maybe better than any ugl I have tried...

Meso vets will always be skeptical little whiners... If they are going to post crap like that than I am glad they don't trust a single source because they do not deserve potent gear.

You all like to ask for mass spec from sources as if it's so so simple to obtain a mass spec on anything, but when a mass spec is released from a long-term reddit member who has no connection whatsoever and has no reason to lie, you call it fake? If anything, a source is more likely to fake a mass spec because their incentive is earning the trust of members so they will buy!

Anybody, and I say ANYBODY you purchase from could be selling low purity powders and finished products at any time. This is a game of chance you have to throw your money at some source if you want powders! It's not as if there are many reviews out there for powder sources. You have to take a shot somewhere...


Just bc sources "roll the dice" does not mean consumers should.

The fact is the ONLY way to KNOW the concentration or content of a raw is thru analytical testing.

Absent a VERY WELL established business relationship between the raw supplier and a UGL, I personally believe any UGL that buys raws absent confirmation of the AAS contained therein or it's concentration is just plain STUPID.

You want to buy from idiots, it's a free country fella!

FYI I don't believe any Meso member was doubting anything but the HPLC / MS results themselves, rather than the veracity of some Reddit member.
 
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Forgive my ignorance, but who is LMT?
LMC Landmark Chem. They are supposedly manufacturers, but they hail from a province in China known for another manufacturer that definitely makes poor quality raws.
 
Yup, you are right, it's fake! Nobody buy from LMC, they sell all bunk crap powders. More for me! I have LMC powders right now, tren a and var is what I got. And let me say, they are just as potent/maybe better than any ugl I have tried...
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just get a clue, somebody is posting some graphs and I am supposed to believe like stupid naïve kid.

and who is this LMC powders guy ? If I had a sample to test myself then I could believe the results, I have seen too many fake lab tests to trust anybody.
 
Are you asking who LMC is (believe not since it has been answered above) or who tested LMC? A guy on reddit I believe had a fundraiser for labtesting a few labs like Honda chem, LMC and another chinese lab I have no clue of english name 廖丹. Haven't followed closely on his posts but I think he is legit, check MPCompetitor on reddit for yourself if needed.
 
Are you asking who LMC is (believe not since it has been answered above) or who tested LMC? A guy on reddit I believe had a fundraiser for labtesting a few labs like Honda chem, LMC and another chinese lab I have no clue of english name 廖丹. Haven't followed closely on his posts but I think he is legit, check MPCompetitor on reddit for yourself if needed.

a lot of the lab tests are scammer trick
 
I get it but I thought you were interested in who performed the lab tests and I explained cheers I like your robocop avatar :)
 
One thing about good labs is they don't need to spam, and LMC spams the living shit out of my email. Desperation is never a good sign.
 
One thing about good labs is they don't need to spam, and LMC spams the living shit out of my email. Desperation is never a good sign.
Damn, I learned that the first day I got in on these forums.. That if they truly are reputable then they don't need to blow your shit up.. I even said this to the LMC guy that hollered at me.. But at the time I saw other reviews that were good, although maybe they were all in on it.. I know this is old but I put a damn order in with LMC, wasn't much just a trial but still.. Has there been any update on this shitness yet?? I mean....
 
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