Ateam2023
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so gyno isn't just specifically around the nipple area? I didnt know it could be anywhere in the pec region, or did i misunderstand?
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Slowww
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Yes that is where it is, the doctor was just noting that in my case, it is basically right under the bottom of the muscle belly to be clear about what to expect
Slowww
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So some updates on strength:
Basically holding steady. I’ve lost 5-10kg off big movements and if no weight has been lost I have lost some reps. Honestly I’m still really enjoying how much weight I can push after losing 8kg. Last time my training really felt like it was a bit of a drag because I was doing shit like 100kg inclines and shit like that and I had my lumbar spine injury which made some training fucking hurt and it was more stressful to train while healing it
Hack squat ATPR for 350kg/770lbs x 7
Incline is a little lower at 150kg/330lbs x 7
Dead stop Overhead machine 160kg/352 x 9
Dead stop Smith seated military 100kg/225lbs x 8
Ramping to Hip thrust 300kg/660lbs x 8, failing at 340kg/750 x 3
Ramping to RDL 180kg/400lbs x 8 and failing at 200kg/445lbs x 3 RDL
Leg press still at 300kg + on the ramps but I just go at this add plates until I can’t not worrying as much since I’m judging based on my hack
Basically holding steady. I’ve lost 5-10kg off big movements and if no weight has been lost I have lost some reps. Honestly I’m still really enjoying how much weight I can push after losing 8kg. Last time my training really felt like it was a bit of a drag because I was doing shit like 100kg inclines and shit like that and I had my lumbar spine injury which made some training fucking hurt and it was more stressful to train while healing it
Hack squat ATPR for 350kg/770lbs x 7
Incline is a little lower at 150kg/330lbs x 7
Dead stop Overhead machine 160kg/352 x 9
Dead stop Smith seated military 100kg/225lbs x 8
Ramping to Hip thrust 300kg/660lbs x 8, failing at 340kg/750 x 3
Ramping to RDL 180kg/400lbs x 8 and failing at 200kg/445lbs x 3 RDL
Leg press still at 300kg + on the ramps but I just go at this add plates until I can’t not worrying as much since I’m judging based on my hack
dinfar1337
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i can relate to this so hard, this is the worst part about losing weight right now for me. losing strength & size. but atleast we know we're going somewhere in the right direction.
the right direction with a very sour and foul taste in our mouths
Slowww
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Same here tbh, but there are always pros and cons, and you can’t be your strongest and your leanest haha. Just impossible. I always just remember that after when I rebound I will be setting PRs with like 300 test and more food from the muscle memory and then be on track to add a plate or more to each lift over the following half year and that makes it much easier. Then once you cut again you will still be as strong as your strongest several months ago. Have to focus on the positive way future performance will be impacted
Slowww
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Check in for this week
New low of 103.1kg/227lbs
Cutting test in half, upping masteron, and reducing carbs helped me drop a bit of water. Pretty close to leaning out. A few weeks and it will be much sharper. Honestly I’m not feeling any diet fatigue yet, so this rebound will probably also feel less challenging even though that is where I struggle with appetite being high.
Front and sides. Starting to practice quarter turns, I am very bad at them, and maybe they don’t suit my structure very well OR honestly I just need more muscle since I’m still small so it won’t look so shit.
Glute striations improving from behind, and can start to see in q-turn, but honestly I think it’s a bit much to post in a semi public place
If my weight stops at around 100 more or less dry, I’ll be on track to put more than 10kg muscle on this year. I’m hoping that will happen— but nothing can be forced, the body does as it will and I’ll take what I get and keep it moving.
New low of 103.1kg/227lbs
Cutting test in half, upping masteron, and reducing carbs helped me drop a bit of water. Pretty close to leaning out. A few weeks and it will be much sharper. Honestly I’m not feeling any diet fatigue yet, so this rebound will probably also feel less challenging even though that is where I struggle with appetite being high.
Front and sides. Starting to practice quarter turns, I am very bad at them, and maybe they don’t suit my structure very well OR honestly I just need more muscle since I’m still small so it won’t look so shit.
Glute striations improving from behind, and can start to see in q-turn, but honestly I think it’s a bit much to post in a semi public place
If my weight stops at around 100 more or less dry, I’ll be on track to put more than 10kg muscle on this year. I’m hoping that will happen— but nothing can be forced, the body does as it will and I’ll take what I get and keep it moving.
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Slowww
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Update: diet is the same, I lost a lot of weight so no need to change it, will push hard another week. I still have a good amount of carbs, so there is no need for a high day, whether it is psychologically or physiologically.
Starting this week though we will monitor micronutrient intake to consider some changes to my diet.
I need to monitor my salt intake, and potassium intake and I just realized I do very likely have a salt problem as I barely added any sodium to my food today outside of some tablespoons of soy sauce only add salt into my intra workout. Actually I need to get some table salt ASAP for my home, not just keep salt at my workplace for my intra workout drinks….
This is one of those things about being in Asia and living with my wife who is pretty traditional, some of my ingredient use has become very Asian, from what vegetables are used even to spices and condiments, and it barely even crossed my mind that I need fucking table salt lmfao
Starting this week though we will monitor micronutrient intake to consider some changes to my diet.
I need to monitor my salt intake, and potassium intake and I just realized I do very likely have a salt problem as I barely added any sodium to my food today outside of some tablespoons of soy sauce only add salt into my intra workout. Actually I need to get some table salt ASAP for my home, not just keep salt at my workplace for my intra workout drinks….
This is one of those things about being in Asia and living with my wife who is pretty traditional, some of my ingredient use has become very Asian, from what vegetables are used even to spices and condiments, and it barely even crossed my mind that I need fucking table salt lmfao
Slowww
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In regards to electrolytes: yes I had a problem, actually quite serious. If I were to continue with the current sodium to potassium ratio in my diet it would likely lead to complications/ negative outcomes with heart health. I’ve seen the info about cases where potassium leads to heart attacks during prep with clen dnp, statins and so on so really need to make sure this is correct.
This came up because I had really bad cramps outside of training on Tuesday morning in my hamstring connecting to my glute. I told my coach about the experience during the check ins. However actually the ratio was much worse than it should be and has been for a while. So I am thankful we got this sorted before anything bad were to happen.
So now I have to weigh out salt and balance out the ratio of salt to potassium.
Here is what my diet’s electrolyte composition came out to without adding salt.
To correct this in training days I need to add 21-22g table salt, rest days will be determined today.
So here is salt weighed out to be added to my daily meal prep and cooking. If I don’t use it all with food I will just drink the rest.
This came up because I had really bad cramps outside of training on Tuesday morning in my hamstring connecting to my glute. I told my coach about the experience during the check ins. However actually the ratio was much worse than it should be and has been for a while. So I am thankful we got this sorted before anything bad were to happen.
So now I have to weigh out salt and balance out the ratio of salt to potassium.
Here is what my diet’s electrolyte composition came out to without adding salt.
To correct this in training days I need to add 21-22g table salt, rest days will be determined today.
So here is salt weighed out to be added to my daily meal prep and cooking. If I don’t use it all with food I will just drink the rest.
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Slowww
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8 month of progress side by side: 10kg difference basically same level of body fat. This is the point in the cut where last time I don’t really lose so much weight off the scale but will start to get tighter, dry out and harden up for a couple weeks. If the scale goes down more I don’t really care anyways, solid amount of mass has been added. Feeling optimistic about my next off season push, but not in any rush to get there.
This is from September 2024, to may last week.
93kg vs 103kg-104.5
Peds the same, in each image.
This is from September 2024, to may last week.
93kg vs 103kg-104.5
Peds the same, in each image.
Ateam2023
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very good gains, EVERYTHING grew and conditioning is excellent in both photos, , Nice Work,,
Slowww
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So my weight stayed the same this week, but fat still came off. Still at 103-104kg
I now have to use the smallest length on my belt, which I had to modify it when I was 60kg, so still after another 10kg my waist is still the same, and I still have a couple inches I think I can lose.
RDL still holding steady at 3 work sets and failure at 190kg/420lbs so I’m happy about this. My back feels much better now. Today before my back session, I felt the best I have in ages since my disc slipped and I sustained my spinal injury. I’m really excited and I am now much more confident I can It felt really good just to have a back that felt absolutely perfect and gave me no stress about deadlifting, and I could finally twist the spine in poses to practice.
here are some back poses. I’m getting lean enough to start practicing twisting shots and have the taper. I think once I get my back shredded and the waist fat off they will look much better. And I will also start ground posing practice again soon. Weekends I am doing 30 minutes per day after my cardio sessions.
Also fuck it here are the glute striations from last week might as well to compare in the future
Rear double 2 lighting
Twisting shots
I now have to use the smallest length on my belt, which I had to modify it when I was 60kg, so still after another 10kg my waist is still the same, and I still have a couple inches I think I can lose.
RDL still holding steady at 3 work sets and failure at 190kg/420lbs so I’m happy about this. My back feels much better now. Today before my back session, I felt the best I have in ages since my disc slipped and I sustained my spinal injury. I’m really excited and I am now much more confident I can It felt really good just to have a back that felt absolutely perfect and gave me no stress about deadlifting, and I could finally twist the spine in poses to practice.
here are some back poses. I’m getting lean enough to start practicing twisting shots and have the taper. I think once I get my back shredded and the waist fat off they will look much better. And I will also start ground posing practice again soon. Weekends I am doing 30 minutes per day after my cardio sessions.
Also fuck it here are the glute striations from last week might as well to compare in the future
Rear double 2 lighting
Twisting shots
Slowww
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103.4kg proportions getting a bit better as body fat gets lower. A little bit of a welt on lower gut from bad injection
Slowww
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Keeping cycle the same, diet the same. This week I didn’t lose weight but fat clearly is still coming off, and my strength actually improved a bit so my body is working with the carbs even though I feel like I’m more tired, working harder.
Since we’re not working towards a show now, it’s ok if we just take it slow and just let the body do as it will while leaning out. When I am not burning more fat here, since my carbs and calories are still pretty high for my weight we will keep it comfortable until we really need to push.
Today I hit a hack squat pr
350kg/771lbs x 8 reps and then was also able to do heavier back downs (added 40kg) for my second big group work set. After that my lifts lost like 40kg though just as quick as I added it haha.
Anyways the masteron and tren are for sure working but my sleep is getting a little silly.
Feel like I am getting a bit leaner by the day.
Since we’re not working towards a show now, it’s ok if we just take it slow and just let the body do as it will while leaning out. When I am not burning more fat here, since my carbs and calories are still pretty high for my weight we will keep it comfortable until we really need to push.
Today I hit a hack squat pr
350kg/771lbs x 8 reps and then was also able to do heavier back downs (added 40kg) for my second big group work set. After that my lifts lost like 40kg though just as quick as I added it haha.
Anyways the masteron and tren are for sure working but my sleep is getting a little silly.
Feel like I am getting a bit leaner by the day.
Slowww
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1 & 1/2 years around same body fat comparison
This is +15kg, from 87 to 103
This is + 37lbs from 190lbs to 227lbs
Honestly looking back at these I feel like I looked so small and like even the 300 test I was on was too much for my physique lol. Anyways i hope I can keep up this rate I really feel like I can build something respectable and meet my goals with this rate even though looking back I must have been totally delusional to think I could be a body builder hahahaha. Also it is so weird seeing that my body in that condition could squat over 500lbs, and deadlift over 600. It looks like it should not be able to do those things
This is +15kg, from 87 to 103
This is + 37lbs from 190lbs to 227lbs
Honestly looking back at these I feel like I looked so small and like even the 300 test I was on was too much for my physique lol. Anyways i hope I can keep up this rate I really feel like I can build something respectable and meet my goals with this rate even though looking back I must have been totally delusional to think I could be a body builder hahahaha. Also it is so weird seeing that my body in that condition could squat over 500lbs, and deadlift over 600. It looks like it should not be able to do those things
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Slowww
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Check ins for this week. 103.3kg, about 228lbs still.
So the gym I go to randomly closed, owners basically stole membership fees and sold machines without warning so, I was forced to change gyms. Members are now waiting to start a law suit. Wonderful. Luckily I only had 1 month left on the membership. Actually new gym is fucking cool. I’m extremely happy to move. Star trac smith and other machines, nautilus for back and chest, some leg machines, and some precor for legs. really a great work out session today, I really like this selection. Also a small 1 person posing room. So take check ins there.
I need to practice engaging my back leg now.
So the gym I go to randomly closed, owners basically stole membership fees and sold machines without warning so, I was forced to change gyms. Members are now waiting to start a law suit. Wonderful. Luckily I only had 1 month left on the membership. Actually new gym is fucking cool. I’m extremely happy to move. Star trac smith and other machines, nautilus for back and chest, some leg machines, and some precor for legs. really a great work out session today, I really like this selection. Also a small 1 person posing room. So take check ins there.
I need to practice engaging my back leg now.
malfeasance
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Your gym has mirrors in the ceiling?
Slowww
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This is the posing room, you can look up and see another mirror in the reflection which shows back and hamstrings. It is very helpful for feedback with posing I think
Ryu82
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The same thing happned to me last year. I had 2 years left on a 5 year card.
Nothing came of the lawsuit. The gym has now re-opened with "new" owners and a new name. On the bright side, like you, I was forced to find a new gym that ended up being a nice upgrade. Everything is Matrix as fear as equipment, which is mostly good (ironically I know the owner of the Matrix equipment factory just outside of Shanghai)
Looking solid btw man. Cant wait to see your your competitive season looks next year.
Slowww
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Damn that sucks. Honestly it’s so normal here. This is the second time it has happened, but the first time I got the membership at a different place super cheap so I didn’t mind. Definitely got my money’s worth.
I assume that will happen here too. So they are trying to go the social media route since the guy makes the majority of his money in the fitness industry doing online coaching/ personal training. New gym also has a lot of matrix equipment for the machines such as pec fly, etc. pretty solid stuff, good quality as far as machines that are usually here go.
Thanks man, and same. I am looking forward to finishing this cut up and pushing to my weight cap in the next 8 months or so
Slowww
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For plan update; very big changes in diet. Carb cycling model has been altered significantly, fats have changed and are now extremely low all around. I have absolutely no problem with satiation and dealing with hunger so we don’t need fat to slow digestion. I get hungry but it’s really not as serious as before. Because I was losing weight on a 4000+ calories up until this point my experience of a weight cut has really changed since last year due to the new muscle mass.
My cramping issue has been resolved since adding a significant amount of salt to my diet, with no blood pressure changes or anything of this nature.
We want to get my metabolism and so on as high as possible, and maximize carbohydrate intake. We also have cut protein to a smaller extent since we really want to use carbs to preserve the training quality and maintain muscle as we start into the “hard push” of the cut.
Calories more or less 2500 rest days, 3500 training days.
We have increased clen dosage and also added a new fat burner. Yohimbine. We are not at the point that I will use t3 yet. I have no idea if we will need it since this will be the last 3-4 weeks in a hard cut.
My cramping issue has been resolved since adding a significant amount of salt to my diet, with no blood pressure changes or anything of this nature.
We want to get my metabolism and so on as high as possible, and maximize carbohydrate intake. We also have cut protein to a smaller extent since we really want to use carbs to preserve the training quality and maintain muscle as we start into the “hard push” of the cut.
Calories more or less 2500 rest days, 3500 training days.
We have increased clen dosage and also added a new fat burner. Yohimbine. We are not at the point that I will use t3 yet. I have no idea if we will need it since this will be the last 3-4 weeks in a hard cut.
