Hello and thanks for the place to share my experience with my first cycle and learn from others. I speed read the sticky on posting cycle logs and tried to get all the info you would want. Pics will proceed the end of the cycle. I am self conscious and you don’t get my fat ass pics without the after ones
Please don’t tell me I need more time in the gym to grow naturally. Your to late. Also sorry for poor spelling. I do math not English.
First some background. I have spent many years in the gym since I was 14. On and off, depending on job, location and injuries. I have never been able to pass the 165 lean mass point. It seems to be my limit. Even with three years strait lifting while in the AF. Although getting big strong and fat seems to be. I got to 210lbs but was just strong and fat.
My stats. I am 36 years of age despite my screen name and am 5’6”. Beginning of my cycle I was 175lbs 15% body fat measured.
Week 8 195lbs 20% body fat. Same waist measurement as when I started.
-Problem areas, I don’t get bulky big. It’s just not in my genetics, fat ass is in there though. But the big weak areas are chest, biceps and shoulders, (I have a level three separation of the left clavicle and metal plates in the left forearm from a bike accident). They don’t want to grow at the same pace as the other side. I have gone to heavier drop sets and more volume and it’s helping. But bone on bone in the clavicle joint and poor contraction from the forearm makes this all harder. One last problem area is legs. They grow when I think about working them. Trying to keep them at or below 24” quad and 14” calve. Lots of matrix climber and walking.
-How much weight can I lift in a given lift? I have no idea and would need to guess. For me this is a stupid baseline question for younger lifters. I have old injuries that prevent me getting proper contractions in my left shoulder and arm, holding onto weight..... I see no reason to max out and risk injury. I can’t hold a 400lb dead lift with my left hand and need hooks. Nerve damage is a bitch.
Bench 225-250-285 incline-flat-decline
Squat 400lbs
Deadlift 400lbs
How I lift? Old school. My weight room is as basic as it gets with only a few machines. No hack squat, no Smith, no back cable pulls...... So old school is all I got. Land mines, bent rows........ I can drive across town to another In-Shape(there are three in my city) when I need new angles and some machine work. But let’s be honest old school is ok and all you need when your joints are still young and you have a clue in the weight room. I have started pre exhausting my larger heavy lift muscle groups so I need less weight for those movements and it’s much easier on the joints and seems to be working just as well as heave.
Diet- I An a sugar addiction so I try not to eat sugar at all. But my protein shake is loaded with natural sugars so I get my fix there. Honestly this is the hardest part to keep in check. I am seeing that most of the mental work is at the table and not the gym.
5000+ cal a day on a good day. 4000 on a bad one. 200+ grams protein,
I don’t eat raw sugar( when I can stop myself)or much wheat and no dairy.
I have three shakes a day with two to three meals.
My protein shake. 800+ calories 120 carbs, 50g protein. avocado oil for fat. Home made with fresh ingredients. No bullshit out of a tub.
-2.5 cups organic rice milk(water when cutting)
-2 organic bananas
-1tbsp organic avocado oil
-35grams egg white protein
-11 grams beef gelatin protein(remove this and it’s vegetarian)
-Fresh organic spinach
-Protease inzyme to cover the amount of protein. (Not to much gas problems)
-joint support
-creatine 10g post workout only
I am currently over half way through my first cycle(end of week 8) and things could not be going better. Zero sides at 800mg test and 450 deca. I mean zero sides at all I wish it was not the holidays. I have trouble resisting these chocolate cherries and I don’t do sugar damn it!
The gear I chose was all eurochem labs from muscle depot except for the hgh and Slin. Why? Because it’s an old company that’s been making it since The late 90s. I know lots of people on ec gear and all are happy. They also test good on Anaboliclabs.
-Megatest 450 (test e, test a, test undec)
-Decaject 250
-Hgh (it’s cheap China garbage but I was running 480+ IGF1 with blood test at 5iu at week 6)
-Humalog 8iu post workout(first 8 weeks, and during pct)
-HCG 125iu 3 times a week (starting week 7 ending last injection week)
My cycle.
-Weeks 1-14 letrozol 1.25mg eod for estrogen control. So far so good. I started at 2.5 and was a zombi. Backed off to 1.25 and energy came back.
-Weeks 1-3 -500mg test and 300mg deca mon, thurs. Hgh at 5iu ed. Slin 8iu post wo.
-Weeks 4-7 -600mg test and 375 deca. Hcg started week 7, 125iu 3x a week.
Mon, thurs. Hgh at 6iu ed. Slin 8iu post wo
-Weeks 8-11 -800mg test and 450 deca
Mon, thurs. Hgh at 6iu ed, hcg 125iu 3x a week
-Weeks 12-14 -900mg test and 500 deca
Mon, thurs. stanoject (injectable Winstrol) 25mg ed. Hgh at 6iu ed, hcg 125iu 3x a week. I may leave the test and deca dose down where it was and just add the win. I will see how I feel. But again these last weeks are still in limbo.
-PCT Starts two weeks after last injection. Continue letrozol during these two weeks at a reduced dose. Up hgh to 8iu and restart insulin post workout at 10iu. Nolva and clomid will be the pct. 6 weeks then have blood work.
I would like to be between 175 and 180 at 10% body fat so I have a ways to go if that can be achieved in this cycle. I doubt it but I am giving it the old college try.
My routine. 5 on 2 off. Mon-fri.
I am a morning person. I start the morning off at around 4am with my shot of hgh and a rip on my weed extract in my vape. Then wait until 6am to have coffee and my first protein shake with a few more rips on my weed extract. (I am a stoner and vape all day)
At 7ish I go workout. 1-1.25 hours depending on many factors.
On the way home I vape some more but once home I make another shake. Take my 8iu insulin and drink the shake. Then vape until One hour or so later when I have steak and eggs(30-50grams protein)
I then go home and sleep for 1.5 hours. I wake up and take my second shot of hgh. I vape some more. I then go and do 45-60 min of cardio and vape some more. Then have 10ounces chicken and 1/2 cup rice shortly after.
Sometimes I eat another meal and have another shake and sometimes I miss one or the other. It’s over 200 protein and 4000 cal on a bad day. My minimum was 3200cal to maintain. And lots of weed extract vaped ya I smoke to much weed but it’s not exactly against the law here and it may be why I have no aggression and can put down 5000cal a day.
Thanks for reading this novel and any suggestions are welcome as long as they are constructive.
Remember this is a cycle log for me and my experience may not be common. If you think this is a ridiculous first cycle with way to much and way to long then say so. I am aware 14 Weeks is a long first cycle, and a blended test is not always the best idea for a first cycle.....also that the test I am on should be shot three times a week due to the test a. But keep in mind it’s going great so far and I start week 9 come Monday the 20th. I can always back off if I see bad side effects. I have everything on hand so there is no danger of running out or not having pct.
I am taking this one week at a time and am willing to chance the cycle at any time if needed. Let’s just say it has changed a lot from it’s first planning.
Please don’t tell me I need more time in the gym to grow naturally. Your to late. Also sorry for poor spelling. I do math not English.
First some background. I have spent many years in the gym since I was 14. On and off, depending on job, location and injuries. I have never been able to pass the 165 lean mass point. It seems to be my limit. Even with three years strait lifting while in the AF. Although getting big strong and fat seems to be. I got to 210lbs but was just strong and fat.
My stats. I am 36 years of age despite my screen name and am 5’6”. Beginning of my cycle I was 175lbs 15% body fat measured.
Week 8 195lbs 20% body fat. Same waist measurement as when I started.
-Problem areas, I don’t get bulky big. It’s just not in my genetics, fat ass is in there though. But the big weak areas are chest, biceps and shoulders, (I have a level three separation of the left clavicle and metal plates in the left forearm from a bike accident). They don’t want to grow at the same pace as the other side. I have gone to heavier drop sets and more volume and it’s helping. But bone on bone in the clavicle joint and poor contraction from the forearm makes this all harder. One last problem area is legs. They grow when I think about working them. Trying to keep them at or below 24” quad and 14” calve. Lots of matrix climber and walking.
-How much weight can I lift in a given lift? I have no idea and would need to guess. For me this is a stupid baseline question for younger lifters. I have old injuries that prevent me getting proper contractions in my left shoulder and arm, holding onto weight..... I see no reason to max out and risk injury. I can’t hold a 400lb dead lift with my left hand and need hooks. Nerve damage is a bitch.
Bench 225-250-285 incline-flat-decline
Squat 400lbs
Deadlift 400lbs
How I lift? Old school. My weight room is as basic as it gets with only a few machines. No hack squat, no Smith, no back cable pulls...... So old school is all I got. Land mines, bent rows........ I can drive across town to another In-Shape(there are three in my city) when I need new angles and some machine work. But let’s be honest old school is ok and all you need when your joints are still young and you have a clue in the weight room. I have started pre exhausting my larger heavy lift muscle groups so I need less weight for those movements and it’s much easier on the joints and seems to be working just as well as heave.
Diet- I An a sugar addiction so I try not to eat sugar at all. But my protein shake is loaded with natural sugars so I get my fix there. Honestly this is the hardest part to keep in check. I am seeing that most of the mental work is at the table and not the gym.
5000+ cal a day on a good day. 4000 on a bad one. 200+ grams protein,
I don’t eat raw sugar( when I can stop myself)or much wheat and no dairy.
I have three shakes a day with two to three meals.
My protein shake. 800+ calories 120 carbs, 50g protein. avocado oil for fat. Home made with fresh ingredients. No bullshit out of a tub.
-2.5 cups organic rice milk(water when cutting)
-2 organic bananas
-1tbsp organic avocado oil
-35grams egg white protein
-11 grams beef gelatin protein(remove this and it’s vegetarian)
-Fresh organic spinach
-Protease inzyme to cover the amount of protein. (Not to much gas problems)
-joint support
-creatine 10g post workout only
I am currently over half way through my first cycle(end of week 8) and things could not be going better. Zero sides at 800mg test and 450 deca. I mean zero sides at all I wish it was not the holidays. I have trouble resisting these chocolate cherries and I don’t do sugar damn it!
The gear I chose was all eurochem labs from muscle depot except for the hgh and Slin. Why? Because it’s an old company that’s been making it since The late 90s. I know lots of people on ec gear and all are happy. They also test good on Anaboliclabs.
-Megatest 450 (test e, test a, test undec)
-Decaject 250
-Hgh (it’s cheap China garbage but I was running 480+ IGF1 with blood test at 5iu at week 6)
-Humalog 8iu post workout(first 8 weeks, and during pct)
-HCG 125iu 3 times a week (starting week 7 ending last injection week)
My cycle.
-Weeks 1-14 letrozol 1.25mg eod for estrogen control. So far so good. I started at 2.5 and was a zombi. Backed off to 1.25 and energy came back.
-Weeks 1-3 -500mg test and 300mg deca mon, thurs. Hgh at 5iu ed. Slin 8iu post wo.
-Weeks 4-7 -600mg test and 375 deca. Hcg started week 7, 125iu 3x a week.
Mon, thurs. Hgh at 6iu ed. Slin 8iu post wo
-Weeks 8-11 -800mg test and 450 deca
Mon, thurs. Hgh at 6iu ed, hcg 125iu 3x a week
-Weeks 12-14 -900mg test and 500 deca
Mon, thurs. stanoject (injectable Winstrol) 25mg ed. Hgh at 6iu ed, hcg 125iu 3x a week. I may leave the test and deca dose down where it was and just add the win. I will see how I feel. But again these last weeks are still in limbo.
-PCT Starts two weeks after last injection. Continue letrozol during these two weeks at a reduced dose. Up hgh to 8iu and restart insulin post workout at 10iu. Nolva and clomid will be the pct. 6 weeks then have blood work.
I would like to be between 175 and 180 at 10% body fat so I have a ways to go if that can be achieved in this cycle. I doubt it but I am giving it the old college try.
My routine. 5 on 2 off. Mon-fri.
I am a morning person. I start the morning off at around 4am with my shot of hgh and a rip on my weed extract in my vape. Then wait until 6am to have coffee and my first protein shake with a few more rips on my weed extract. (I am a stoner and vape all day)
At 7ish I go workout. 1-1.25 hours depending on many factors.
On the way home I vape some more but once home I make another shake. Take my 8iu insulin and drink the shake. Then vape until One hour or so later when I have steak and eggs(30-50grams protein)
I then go home and sleep for 1.5 hours. I wake up and take my second shot of hgh. I vape some more. I then go and do 45-60 min of cardio and vape some more. Then have 10ounces chicken and 1/2 cup rice shortly after.
Sometimes I eat another meal and have another shake and sometimes I miss one or the other. It’s over 200 protein and 4000 cal on a bad day. My minimum was 3200cal to maintain. And lots of weed extract vaped ya I smoke to much weed but it’s not exactly against the law here and it may be why I have no aggression and can put down 5000cal a day.
Thanks for reading this novel and any suggestions are welcome as long as they are constructive.
Remember this is a cycle log for me and my experience may not be common. If you think this is a ridiculous first cycle with way to much and way to long then say so. I am aware 14 Weeks is a long first cycle, and a blended test is not always the best idea for a first cycle.....also that the test I am on should be shot three times a week due to the test a. But keep in mind it’s going great so far and I start week 9 come Monday the 20th. I can always back off if I see bad side effects. I have everything on hand so there is no danger of running out or not having pct.
I am taking this one week at a time and am willing to chance the cycle at any time if needed. Let’s just say it has changed a lot from it’s first planning.
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