Looking for some advice on Test + Anavar cicle

[him222]

I will be doing my first "cicle" soon, I wanna be on a sports "TRT" with 250mg to 350mg (depending on how my body takes it.)

Been training for a long time but over the past 2 years after dealing with depression I gained a lot of weight. I was up to 113KG approx 30% BF (male 175cm 30yo)

Been back to lifting hitting the gym for 5 months and on a good diet and I'm down to 98KG but just a month ago my bloodwoork wasnt great, I was at 11.5 nmol/L total test and my Cholesterol was also not great

LDL at 4.40 mmol/L
HDL 0.88 mmol/L
Total Cholesterol 6.1 mmol/L

Everything else was good, blood pressure is excellent, sugars, heart, liver kidneys and all that is good.

Since I am now on a very healthy lifestyle working out 5x a week and on an excellent diet I believe with the test my cholesterol is improving and will continue to get better as I continue to lose weight - but as of now its likely still not good.

My question is... should I add 20mg Anavar for the first 6 weeks just to give it an extra "boost" and then cruise on Test only and how bad that could be to my health in your experience?

I'm trying to think about the cost/benefit of doing so I really want to put in some good results, and keep my lean mass while I continue to drop the weight but I'm not 100% sure on how big of an impact 20mg of anavar would do to my physique to make it worth the risks.

(PS: I know Primo would be a better option but it's just too pricey and hard to get for me atm - but if you have any other suggestions please feel free to share)

 

[BigDadd7]

No. You should add tirz.

 

[him222]

No. You should add tirz.

I appreciate the reply! I dont feel like I am struggling too much with my weight loss to need to add a drug for that, I am not doing an aggressive deficit on purpose to try and save as much lean mass as possible but I have no issues with being in a deficit and eating healthy, what I am focused on is gaining/mantaining as much muscle as possible in the coming months and was looking for something in that department

 

[BigDadd7]

I appreciate the reply! I dont feel like I am struggling too much with my weight loss to need to add a drug for that, I am not doing an aggressive deficit on purpose to try and save as much lean mass as possible but I have no issues with being in a deficit and eating healthy, what I am focused on is gaining/mantaining as much muscle as possible in the coming months and was looking for something in that department

But you're adding anavar?

 

[phenominal34]

I will be doing my first "cicle" soon, I wanna be on a sports "TRT" with 250mg to 350mg (depending on how my body takes it.)

Been training for a long time but over the past 2 years after dealing with depression I gained a lot of weight. I was up to 113KG approx 30% BF (male 175cm 30yo)

Been back to lifting hitting the gym for 5 months and on a good diet and I'm down to 98KG but just a month ago my bloodwoork wasnt great, I was at 11.5 nmol/L total test and my Cholesterol was also not great

LDL at 4.40 mmol/L
HDL 0.88 mmol/L
Total Cholesterol 6.1 mmol/L

Everything else was good, blood pressure is excellent, sugars, heart, liver kidneys and all that is good.

Since I am now on a very healthy lifestyle working out 5x a week and on an excellent diet I believe with the test my cholesterol is improving and will continue to get better as I continue to lose weight - but as of now its likely still not good.

My question is... should I add 20mg Anavar for the first 6 weeks just to give it an extra "boost" and then cruise on Test only and how bad that could be to my health in your experience?

I'm trying to think about the cost/benefit of doing so I really want to put in some good results, and keep my lean mass while I continue to drop the weight but I'm not 100% sure on how big of an impact 20mg of anavar would do to my physique to make it worth the risks.

(PS: I know Primo would be a better option but it's just too pricey and hard to get for me atm - but if you have any other suggestions please feel free to share)

You’re prob gonna aromatize a lot still st 5’8 216lbs if your not already jacked which I’m guessing after being 30% bf you’re likely not already.

I agree with @BigDadd7 but I’d go with 200 test and 3-5mgs Reta per week to start for 6-8 weeks and see what that does to body composition. Then maybe bump to 300 mgs test and 6-8 mgs Reta.

You gtta lean out first and your physique will look so much better when incorporating the extra gear.

 

[him222]

You’re prob gonna aromatize a lot still st 5’8 216lbs if your not already jacked which I’m guessing after being 30% bf you’re likely not already.

I agree with @BigDadd7 but I’d go with 200 test and 3-5mgs Reta per week to start for 6-8 weeks and see what that does to body composition. Then maybe bump to 300 mgs test and 6-8 mgs Reta.

You gtta lean out first and your physique will look so much better when incorporating the extra gear.

hmm I see. Yes I'm not jacked, I do have a fair amount of muscle from th years lifting and current PRs but I am likely 25 to 30% ish BF. Appreciate the advice!

 

[knucklesamich]

I'd use Testosterone Cyp or Test D for a first cycle. No other PEDs added, so that you can assess your tolerance. Have some form of AI purchased and ready to go, do that research first e.g. See how exemestane works. Some say, as you start your cycle, at the first sign of side effects, start adding in a small amount of your AI, so that you use the least amount of it to alleviate the side effect(s), if the amount used doesn't alleviate it, start adding in more. Don't worry, if it's stinging nipples, people panic, "OMG Bitch TITS!!11!! I'll have double Ds tomorrow when I wake up. How am I going to explain this to my coworkers?" First, gyno isn't that pronounced, and it takes quite some time to occur, as in friggin months for most people. So, up the dose of AI as necessary. Don't use Anavar on your cycle, even if it's a really cool ped. Check that out later, provided you stick around this part of society for awhile.

 

[phenominal34]

hmm I see. Yes I'm not jacked, I do have a fair amount of muscle from th years lifting and current PRs but I am likely 25 to 30% ish BF. Appreciate the advice!

So not trying to critique ya too much but you said you were 250lbs at 30% bf and you’re now 216lbs and still 25-30% bf ?

I thought you may have dropped to 20%ish bf.

Not good pal. Drop some lbs and low test if anything and a GLP

 

[Elektrobot]

should I add 20mg Anavar

I think you should address why you aren't growing on what you are already taking and why you think adding more drugs will change that.

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[adrenalytic]

why does everyone think anavar is the answer for a first cycle? it doesn't do what you think it does. Use it on a cut or as a PWO when you want an edge for PRs...or like I'm doing right now - as a stopgap while I try to crush my T levels and lipids at the same time (long story explained in another thread).

Var is great for holding onto muscle when your anabolic environment is less than ideal. Building muscle? not so much. And any gains you do get, you give back when you stop.

You really don't need another compound. Test only like everyone is saying, and keep the dose low.

approx 30% BF

which means you're more likely 35-40% bf unless you have a dexa. You really shouldn't be doing anything more than TRT at that comp. Lean out first if you want to have the most success.