Lowest effective trenbolone dose.

[lukiss96]

100-200mg a week should give noticeable results.

Sides may vary.

I'd always have some kind of prolactin control when running a 19nor, even at lose dosages, but only use it as needed. I wouldn't be popping caber once a week just because someone on the internet said to. I think caber has unhealthy properties to it as well in terms of what it can do to the heart, so take only as needed. If prolactin sides to pop up, you're going to wish you had something to correct it with

Although it's important to note that on such dosages, side effects should be pretty tolerable. 19 nors also affect aromatization process, so maybe there will be a need to readjust your AI. I have never had prolactin issues even on high tren, but I never checked it either, I had no symptoms. I wouldn't be popping random caber without blood work confirming high prl. It's been quite a long time since my last run and now nothing really out of balance. Somehow I don't miss tren, but the results were awesome.

 

[nightprowler7]

100-200mg a week should give noticeable results.

Sides may vary.

I'd always have some kind of prolactin control when running a 19nor, even at lose dosages, but only use it as needed. I wouldn't be popping caber once a week just because someone on the internet said to. I think caber has unhealthy properties to it as well in terms of what it can do to the heart, so take only as needed. If prolactin sides pop up, you're going to wish you had something to correct it with

I also took caber preventively on my first deca cycle, I experienced nothing by "crashing my prolactin" besides I could cum in 4 seconds if my gf touched me.



I've never read anything about caber affecting the heart. People with hyperprolactinemia take 3-10mg or more a day every day.



"Cabergoline appears to be safe in patients with prolactinoma up to the cumulative dose of ~300 mg. The screening for valvulopathy should be restricted to those with higher cumulative cabergoline exposure"

Long-term cardiac (valvulopathy) safety of cabergoline in prolactinoma

Clinical relevance of association of cabergoline use for hyperprolactinemia and cardiac valvulopathy remains unclear.The aim of the study was to determine the prevalence of valvular heart abnormalities in patients taking cabergoline for the treatment ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[nightprowler7]

Most of the time if you control e2, prolactin won't rise. Mine rises because I like my e2 around 70-100pg. I feel best on that...Slowly my prolactin rises around 6-8weeks with high e2. I can definitely tell by breast pain but labs confirm it for me. So I take .5mg (half a mg) every 2 months

 

[TurtleTank]

What are you currently on and what are your goals?

Bill's steroid profile on this site corroborates 50mg as a good starter dose.

 

[lukiss96]

besides I could cum in 4 seconds if my gf touched me.

I embarrased myself once with newly met girl, never touched caber again. Took it for supposed sex benefits where you can go without a pause. Instead what happened is what you described. Took a good couple of months to fix, but really like a year to fully be confident and not worry for it to happen again. One of the worst shit ever.

 

[Mishka]

200 mg would be sufficient, yes.

 

[TurtleTank]

I embarrased myself once with newly met girl, never touched caber again. Took it for supposed sex benefits where you can go without a pause. Instead what happened is what you described. Took a good couple of months to fix, but really like a year to fully be confident and not worry for it to happen again. One of the worst shit ever.

This is the first I've heard of Caber causing this LOL I'm so sorry bro.

I've taken Caber many times. I actually had a prolactinoma (way before I ever took AAS) and had to take Caber for about 5 years straight. I couldn't even tell I was taking it, other than on labs my prolactin was near zero.

 

[egruberman]

What is the purported benefit of low-dose Tren over any other AAS?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

What is the purported benefit of low-dose Tren over any other AAS?

Muscle retention on a cut, strength, "tren look"

 

[lukiss96]

Muscle retention on a cut, strength, "tren look"

If those all what matters then inj stanozolol with high T wins. Never been so shredded and strong. Also sex drive is high and feel good. Underrated shit imo.

 

[alpinism77]

I ran AI Pharma Tren Ace and I stand by that it's the strongest most insane transformative compound I ever ran.
I found it blew Syn and Paretos tren out of the park.
I guarantee at 30-50mg of that tren a week you would see great results with probably minimal sides, though I did find at that dose I was still experiencing some sleep troubles

Minimum effective dose I'm gonna say is dependent on Lab also. I am not of the mindset in the least that all labs are created equal, that test is test, tren is tren, etc.

 

[Xplicit]

What is the purported benefit of low-dose Tren over any other AAS?

The effect it has on IGF is very appealing, especially if running HGH. It pulls igf *into the muscle*. Type II has discussed this a few times, explained far better then I can. I just remember Tren + HGH = Good.

 

[amazonas]

I embarrased myself once with newly met girl, never touched caber again. Took it for supposed sex benefits where you can go without a pause. Instead what happened is what you described. Took a good couple of months to fix, but really like a year to fully be confident and not worry for it to happen again. One of the worst shit ever.

Lol its funny you mention it, i dont last long and always had low prolactin, both natural and on cycle... i was hoping this npp run would jack my prolactin up so i can "last forever" as some people complain about as side effect

 

[egruberman]

The effect it has on IGF is very appealing, especially if running HGH. It pulls igf *into the muscle*. Type II has discussed this a few times, explained far better then I can. I just remember Tren + HGH = Good.

Thanks, I’ll do a search for that. I’m curious to try it, but I’m also old, not gonna step on stage, and want to understand the expected benefit to weigh against the risk.

 

[lukiss96]

This is the first I've heard of Caber causing this LOL I'm so sorry bro.

I've taken Caber many times. I actually had a prolactinoma (way before I ever took AAS) and had to take Caber for about 5 years straight. I couldn't even tell I was taking it, other than on labs my prolactin was near zero.

Guy that I quoted wrote it first, that's why I replied. As you can see I'm not the only one.

There's also this:
prolactin is believed to influence the likelihood of orgasm in men; high prolactin levels have been associated with delayed orgasm, and low levels have been associated with premature ejaculation.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2050116116000076

If you have some basic knowledge, it's caber itself, but rather crashed prolactin that is causing PE and higher PRL is causing DE (delayed ejaculation).

I usually have somewhat delayed, but it's much better than premature.

 

[anabolicperro]

If those all what matters then inj stanozolol with high T wins. Never been so shredded and strong. Also sex drive is high and feel good. Underrated shit imo.

stick with whatever works for you

 

[anabolicperro]

Lol its funny you mention it, i dont last long and always had low prolactin, both natural and on cycle... i was hoping this npp run would jack my prolactin up so i can "last forever" as some people complain about as side effect

well high prolactin can cause erectile disfunction or can make your dick feel numb

 

[TurtleTank]

Guy that I quoted wrote it first, that's why I replied. As you can see I'm not the only one.

There's also this:
prolactin is believed to influence the likelihood of orgasm in men; high prolactin levels have been associated with delayed orgasm, and low levels have been associated with premature ejaculation.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2050116116000076

If you have some basic knowledge, it's caber itself, but rather crashed prolactin that is causing PE and higher PRL is causing DE (delayed ejaculation).

I usually have somewhat delayed, but it's much better than premature.

Great info on Caber. On your T+Winny, how’s your joint pain? Are you using anything to help with it?

 

[lukiss96]

Great info on Caber. On your T+Winny, how’s your joint pain? Are you using anything to help with it?

I didn't experience any issues with joints, I believe people who have problems or those older lifters usually complain about it. Excessive weight, constantly liftin heavy and high volume, low body fat, diet that lacks key elements, no supplements is what is truly is killing joints for many trainees.

 

[effswithtren]

200 is the lowest “worth” doing IMO. I also don’t think there’s much point in going above 350, which I consider a ‘full’ dose. Only time to go higher is if one is going balls to the wall but I feel the juice isn’t worth the squeeze in terms of effects:side effects save for the most extreme of use cases.