No I don't care to explain, I have nothing to do with the tests and have never analyzed them myself. To me, coming from the manufacturer, they don't hold the same weight as a true independent unbiased test. The only reason I posted them is that when Jim was going off on one of his ego trip saturday night; he stated that if I would post the tests Karl promised to post many moons ago, he would post the information on the standard. While I completely disagree that one should be dependent upon the other, I have given him the information requested. What you guys do with that information, I could care less, I just want to get the issue of the standard resolved. Now if I truly believe that all these generics were 4iu and am just acting as a "hired gun" as Ben has said(and CBS, Jim, and JB have implied); then why would I goto all this trouble to get something posted, that when posted would prove me wrong? As long as Jim continues to INTENTIONALLY withhold the information, he is only proving me right!! Hopefully he is at least a man of his word and will adhere to his end of the agreement so that we can move forward!!