Great I guess I now am allowed ONE YEAR to rebut with my standard.
Then MH will argue over standards.
Next up pecker sizes, LOL
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MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
MALDI-TOF-MS/HPLC-UV-VIS rHGH results
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Great I guess I now am allowed ONE YEAR to rebut with my standard.
Then MH will argue over standards.
Next up pecker sizes, LOL
muscle96ss
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And JB, you ask why I come across as a jerk and a motherfucker.
MANDS with deference THERE WAS NO OVERSIGHT ON THE CONCENTRATION, period.
We can go round and round with this nonsense bc MH only NEEDS there to be an oversight on the concentration for PM vendors.
No matter what I post MH will attempt to discredit it and he has said that already.
Why would I continue you this song and dance that being the case.
For MH this has been a game and I wish for once YOU would call him out on that fact!
muscle96ss
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Jim, why don't you call me out on it, all you have to do is post the standard as you promised and game over.
I would have won that one, hands down. Unfortunately, I had to have a reduction last year. It was just too much, and the constant shrieks were taking a toll in the way of high frequency hearing loss. I did opt to remain well above average, though - just not outrageous as before.
johnnyBALLZ
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Don't act like you don't play a pretty big role in it!! And it's jerk motherfucker, not "jerk and a motherfucker"..
If someone came into PM like you came into Meso making claims against someone who is considered an "authority" of sorts on GH testing they'd be banned within minutes!! We don't ban people here but how you act is directly tied to how you're treated during your stay..
I've gotten to know Jim over the years and bless the man but he can be a stubborn S.O.B. at times. You already knew that from the Western Bio thread so why would you go about things the same way you did last time when it did absolutely no good?? Now he doesn't want to post the standard and I can't say I blame him.
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For those doubting Members who are wondering "why is Jim being difficult rather than posting his standard"?
The answer is simple,
Once I post the HT standard that WILL show the the concentrations are correct, then what?
MH will walk away satisfied, LMFAO!
I want there to be a conclusion to this thread about the "concentrations" and what is required to show they are accurate bc absent that it's a waste on my time bc I KNOW THEY ARE!
The answer is simple,
Once I post the HT standard that WILL show the the concentrations are correct, then what?
MH will walk away satisfied, LMFAO!
I want there to be a conclusion to this thread about the "concentrations" and what is required to show they are accurate bc absent that it's a waste on my time bc I KNOW THEY ARE!
muscle96ss
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JB, CBS, and others who actually believe that there is only 4iu GH in the various Chinese GH's tested thus far, I have a serious question. How do you account for the fact that there is a lot of data that has been posted on PM of both serum GH's and IGF-1's; with the majority of them being very good scores? If there were only 4iu's in each vial, then the numbers reported would have been much lower. I am just curious at what your explanation or theory is for this since it contradicts whats being reported in Jim's report.
muscle96ss
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Then Jim, you win and you can continue with your testing without any distractions or interference. Its really that simple!
Oh I WANT to post the standard but I'm also insisting that after I DO that this BS about "the concentration is off" will cease!
See Meat Head hasn't the faintest idea about how to even use a standard.
He posted his Nor std but how the Fuck did that clown determine if it's purity and concentration are accurate?
See post up MEAT HEAD and tell us what your looking for in my HT std.
What you think all that is required is an HPLC and MS of a std?
So ONLY when MH COMMITS to what he requires as PROOF a std is legit will I post the HT standard otherwise he's a fool talking out his ASS!
See Meat Head hasn't the faintest idea about how to even use a standard.
He posted his Nor std but how the Fuck did that clown determine if it's purity and concentration are accurate?
See post up MEAT HEAD and tell us what your looking for in my HT std.
What you think all that is required is an HPLC and MS of a std?
So ONLY when MH COMMITS to what he requires as PROOF a std is legit will I post the HT standard otherwise he's a fool talking out his ASS!
Don't act like you don't play a pretty big role in it!! And it's jerk motherfucker, not "jerk and a motherfucker"..
If someone came into PM like you came into Meso making claims against someone who is considered an "authority" of sorts on GH testing they'd be banned within minutes!! We don't ban people here but how you act is directly tied to how you're treated during your stay..
I've gotten to know Jim over the years and bless the man but he can be a stubborn S.O.B. at times. You already knew that from the Western Bio thread so why would you go about things the same way you did last time when it did absolutely no good?? Now he doesn't want to post the standard and I can't say I blame him.
Yep I'm a obstinate SOB and can even be a "jerk" or ass according to some but one thing I would NEVER do is post ANY data that was not PROVEN legit.
The simple FACT IS I have no vested interest in the outcome of these assays, NONE, and I'd love for someone to
post any evidence to the contrary!
Hey Meat Head let's see your criteria of a legit standard. Come on post it big boy!
Hint; electron microscopy is NOT required, lol!
Hint; electron microscopy is NOT required, lol!
muscle96ss
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Jim, here is the only information I am looking for:
1.) What was the original concentration and form of the Humatrope sample you tested. In other words was it a 5mg vial with 1 ml of bac water, was it a 10mg cartridge or pen with 1.2ml of water, etc..?
2.) I would like to see the lab test that shows that the sample was named AS1625-2 and shows how its concentration was determined to be 3.72mg/ml(or whatever concentration you are claiming it to be).
Thats it!!
muscle96ss
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Posted, gotta go make some nam sod for my son, he turns 11 today, be back in a couple hours and hopefully we can wrap this up.
Ok MH I'm being to hard on you, so I'll give you a legit hint.
Try to determine how Avagadros number could be used to "certify" a standard.
(Oh I KNOW Karl did not do what is required but I won't make that an issue, Scouts honor, hehe!)
Try to determine how Avagadros number could be used to "certify" a standard.
(Oh I KNOW Karl did not do what is required but I won't make that an issue, Scouts honor, hehe!)
muscle96ss
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Jim, these tests are useless when you hide data and play little games. For them to be meaningful, the online community needs to be able to understand and decipher them. Maybe it makes you feel superior and like your better than everyone else, but it makes you look like you are hiding something and not being straight up. Just because you understand the chemistry involved, doesn't make you any better of a person than anyone else in this thread, nor does it give you the right to act like a pomous ass. This isn't high school, so why can't we act and communicate like adults.
Jim for damn sake, please post the data. All of it. So we can end this discussion and you prove him wrong. We are all happy and done.
Your about as irrelevant as MH bc neither one of you know the difference bt what is required to certify a standard and what is NOT!
I could post an HPLC is that enough? Oh let's add a Mass Spec how about then. What did you say you needed a calibration curve or how about a LC/MS too?
I want this crap to END and the only way that will happen is for people like you to shut the Fuck up and allow people who know WTF they are talking about to finish this thread.
You got it !
Now FUCK OFF and GET LOST!
I could post an HPLC is that enough? Oh let's add a Mass Spec how about then. What did you say you needed a calibration curve or how about a LC/MS too?
I want this crap to END and the only way that will happen is for people like you to shut the Fuck up and allow people who know WTF they are talking about to finish this thread.
You got it !
Now FUCK OFF and GET LOST!
You sure are such a sweet person. Are you on tren? By the way this shit is not ending because you are a prideful prick that can't post whatever the fuck
You should post.
You should post.
muscle96ss
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Jim you are such a great person because of your chemistry knowledge and we are just peons and losers who don't deserve to know and understand this stuff. Oh immortal one, how can you ever forgive me for questioning you. I am sorry for asking you to take 5 minutes out of your day to post up this information. I realize how inconvenient that would be for someone of your stature and would hate to see you waste such valuable time that would be taken away from you saving the world.
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