MALDI-TOF-MS/HPLC-UV-VIS rHGH results

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The argument I typically see is from staunch steroid supporters saying it's the media and government trying to keep the steroid fear fresh in ppl's minds.

There's no question that that's happening too, and the scare tactics are probably doing more harm for the reason you mentioned; i.e., AAS users are rejecting all warnings about the dangers of AAS use, including the ones that might be real, because they see it as scare tactics.

 

[Docd187123]

There's no question that that's happening too, and the scare tactics are probably doing more harm for the reason you mentioned; i.e., AAS users are rejecting all warnings about the dangers of AAS use, including the ones that might be real, because they see it as scare tactics.

For sure. Its why I try to remain objective and not let my use and decision to continue to use steroids affect how I perceive the info. It's like the reefer madness videos from back in the day.

 

[Buck1973]

Absolutely. It is important that people are aware, even if they they didn't know Queefer.

This is posted in the public Forum "Post 20"
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...ting-undergroundsupps-com-ugpeptides-com.html
This is to pay respect and Grieve a Loss...

Heavenly Father we know and believe that our times are in Your hands, but Lord it’s so often such a shock to us when a dear loved one meets with a sudden or unexpected death - through an accident or perhaps due to some unforeseen tragedy, which takes the life of someone they loved - long before it would be expected.

Lord we bring before You today those who are having to go through such a tragic loss and pray that You would be very close to each one that is in mourning today over such a loss - and are perhaps confused or even angry that such a devastating occurrence has overtaken them - without any apparent warning.

You are the God of all comfort Who comforts us in time of need and we pray that for those that are facing such a difficult trial today. Uphold them we pray, and ask that You draw very close to them … raise up we pray, the right people to minister to them and to be a genuine comfort and support at this time of tragedy and grief.

Lord we don’t understand why our loved ones should suddenly be removed from us through a sudden, unexpected death – but Lord we trust You to soothe away the hurt in time - for shall not the God of all the earth do right…. In Jesus name we pray,

Peace

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Something that has always been in the back of my mind, is that even without factoring all the drugs in; just the fact that some of us are walking around with that much muscle weight is really hard on the body. Q was 300lbs and on a what looks like a really small-boned frame. That alone takes a toll on the heart and other organs. Our bodies weren't designed to carry that much muscle. Then factor in the drugs and we are all at risk somewhat. Thats why I take so many damn supplements, I want to keep the inside of my body as healthy as it can be.

Spot on, IMO. Even if the AAS aren't directly responsible, they're allowing users to carry more muscle than they could ever achieve naturally, and in many cases, far more weight than is healthy. And then you have the force feeding, altered lipid profiles, brutal workouts, etc. All that takes a toll on the body.

 

[korat]

The argument I typically see is from staunch steroid supporters saying it's the media and government trying to keep the steroid fear fresh in ppl's minds.

Gov't intervention on the supply side has created an insane amount dangerous ugl gear whether they admit or not. The supply has never been greater. I know bikini chicks using oxandrolona, t3, clen, primo etc. Bikini chicks! The guys, forget about it. Anyways even if the gov't said nothing, the stats are piling up, but I get what you are saying.

 

[heady muscle]

It is getting harder and harder to deny that high doses of AAS are at least partially responsible for these deaths. It seems someone who was way too young is dying every month or two now. I worry that it is going to get much worse. Maybe this will spur people to start reexamining their goals and AAS use. Hopefully it results in more people taking their health more seriously.

Very well said.

 

[Sampei]

Yeah true but what dosages? And what lenght? I believe we have to put everything in perspective.

200-220 lbs with not too low BF and a max of 1.5gr of total steroids per cycle. I don't think that would harm you much if Bw come ok etc.

300lbs and gh and insulin and 2-3grams even more of AAS no stop? That will kill you sooner or later. Especially with ppl cruising at 400-500 mg week... What the fuck that my blast lol

 

[brutus79]

Yeah true but what dosages? And what lenght? I believe we have to put everything in perspective.

200-220 lbs with not too low BF and a max of 1.5gr of total steroids per cycle. I don't think that would harm you much if Bw come ok etc.

300lbs and gh and insulin and 2-3grams even more of AAS no stop? That will kill you sooner or later. Especially with ppl cruising at 400-500 mg week... What the fuck that my blast lol

Completely arbitrary. What is important is getting bloodwork. Maintaining a healthy diet. Even 500mg wk could be too much for some, and then you have people putting drugs and alcohol on top of it. Suicide. And for what? To LOOK healthy? I say be healthy- and KNOW you are healthy and don't just hope.

 

[heady muscle]

Completely arbitrary. What is important is getting bloodwork. Maintaining a healthy diet. Even 500mg wk could be too much for some, and then you have people putting drugs and alcohol on top of it. Suicide. And for what? To LOOK healthy? I say be healthy- and KNOW you are healthy and don't just hope.

Exactly.

 

[glycomann]

Wow this is a great service. Very nice data.

 

[G.I. Bro]

Is this shit really going on? Absolute nonsense from the most intelligent individuals I've met on the boards.

JIM, CBS, Brutus,JB, MH have probably a collective IQ of over 750 and can't get shit accomplished.

I'm fucking done with this thread.

It's useless. Let me know when you guys wanna work together and I'll be back around.

mands

Disappointed in meso and some people I'd looked up to. I always thought absolute truth was the only end game goal here. But this thread made me reconsider that as I saw egos and "being right" and saving face trump the pursuit of truth or at least cooperation toward a unified agreement/understanding of what exactly occurred.

However, Jims more recent post on helping clarify and produce some data is a step in the right direction. Glad to see it!

 

[Dr JIM]

So what exactly went wrong, Jim?

It's presumptuous and biased for you or anyone else to assume something "went wrong" absent any evidence to support such an assertion. I should have all the info for you nonbelievers to scrutinize by weeks end, then what.

But I'll tell you and anyone else the same thing NOTHING WENT WRONG THE DATA IS ACCURATE. GOT IT!

Heck after the data is posted I'll even attempt to answer those questions which are sincere and insightful, but I won't play some juvenile game of "gotcha" based on typo's.

 

[Rick Kane]

It's presumptuous and biased for you or anyone else to assume something "went wrong" absent any evidence to support such an assertion. I should have all the info for you nonbelievers to scrutinize by weeks end, then what.

Presumptuous, maybe. Biased, not one bit. @Colt44 blood test showed his IGF levels at over 600 ng/l. That's not 3ius, that's 6ius and you know that.

But I'll tell you and anyone else the same thing NOTHING WENT WRONG THE DATA IS ACCURATE. GOT IT!

Tell that to the guy that just wasted 3ius everyday for the past month based on your recommendation. Colt has every right to be upset. Don't you think you at least owe him an apology. Better yet, maybe you can call his doctor and have a peer to peer to explain yourself. Colt just had neck surgery and was pinning way too much gh because YOU TOLD HIM TO! What if something had happened to Colt, Jim? What then!

Heck after the data is posted I'll even attempt to answer those questions which are sincere and insightful, but I won't play some juvenile game of "gotcha" based on typo's.

Jim, this is your testing, your thread and I'm don't with it. I'm sure you meant well but your inability to answer basic questions without flying off the handle and resorting to personal attacks has turned this thread into a CLOWN SHOW!
I have nothing more to add to this thread and attempting to engage you in anything resembling a productive Q&A is an exercise in futility.
I will not play chess against a pigeon. They will just knock over the pieces, shit all over the board then strut around victoriously. You win, Jim.

Peace, I'm out

And for fucks sake learn the difference between "your" and "you're".

 

[Dr JIM]

Classic bro science BULLSHIT and you should know that. Taking the results of A SINGLE IGF level and using it to determine the accuracy of 10 HPLCs conducted on UGL samples is about as ignorant as it gets.

Not biased my ass, well ok, your either biased or a fool that doesn't know crap about how to apply EVIDENCE based literature ""bro"!

And I apologize FOR NOTHING the data is accurate but your just to foolish to know that!

I can't wait to hear your excuses, like a few others when the standard data is posted, what will it be then, GH elves spiked the HPLC autoanlyzers.

Oh but how presumptuous of me to believe you possess the fund of knowledge to interpret the data once posted, LMAO!

 

[MisterBiggins]

Can you guys help me with this? I want to run some hgh and test having testing done. What panel should I be asking for and is the 10ius 3.5 hours later the go to for getting the HGH numer? Also how long after should I wait to come back to check the IGF numbers and on that day should I also use the 10ius 3.5 hours pre testing? Thank you

 

[mands]

Can you guys help me with this? I want to run some hgh and test having testing done. What panel should I be asking for and is the 10ius 3.5 hours later the go to for getting the HGH numer? Also how long after should I wait to come back to check the IGF numbers and on that day should I also use the 10ius 3.5 hours pre testing? Thank you

Gh serum level test. Protocol for the serum level you are suggesting will work.

IGF-1 should be fine to take at 4 weeks and no need to shoot 10 iu's again before IGF-1 testing.

mands

 

[MisterBiggins]

Gh serum level test. Protocol for the serum level you are suggesting will work.

IGF-1 should be fine to take at 4 weeks and no need to shoot 10 iu's again before IGF-1 testing.

mands

Thank you

 

[Colt44]

Can you guys help me with this? I want to run some hgh and test having testing done. What panel should I be asking for and is the 10ius 3.5 hours later the go to for getting the HGH numer? Also how long after should I wait to come back to check the IGF numbers and on that day should I also use the 10ius 3.5 hours pre testing? Thank you

Don't waste your time. It's half-dosed. Lol

 

[heady muscle]

Since I started Grey GH, I've been getting crazy ass cramps (mostly in my legs, but elsewhere also). Is this common?

 

[Cpriest88]

Man this thread was destined to be one of the greatest ... Set to settle the great debate on Chinese black market growth ...

But the saga continues ...

Some new favorable qualitative tests were posted to eroids yesterday on the angs and gods ... Independently tested by a user who is also active here...

And with countless members posting Gh serum/igf in the past few months on the angs, gods and greys... Most all with pretty consistent results. An increase of 80-100ng/ml igf1 per 1iu ...

What is your take on this Mands?

Why wasnt the standard ever posted ?

It's sad that the guy who was instrumental and finaced yiur testing turned out to be a stubborn megalomaniac who contributed greatly at first but de-evolved into just another assclown keyboard warrior with cbs stroking his dick as he typed.

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