That's what I suspect from the way you talk up TP, but I have no proof, so we'll leave it at that
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muscle96ss
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BAAAAAAHaaaaaa!!
SQUIRREL!! Hey buddy....Happy New Year
(Prof X is not a Real X-MAN either....but I'm a real HAILRAZOR)
TP posted his concern about diminishing IGF1 from a product he was selling. (High Impurities) GH Serums never diminish he says (High Impurities do not effect GH Serum)... You can't fight that comment buddy. More focus should be on IGF1.....not GH Serums......BIG OLE SCAMM A ROOSKIE......YOU''RE TREATING PM MEMBERS LIKE FOOLS......THEY SHOULD BE PISSED
First of all, impurities have no effect on serums; you are correct. I am not sure what that has to do with anything. Secondly, buck explained a page or so back where the drawback is with IGF-1's and I have mentioned it before as well. Thirdly, I have stated before in this thread that IGF-1's ARE more important and a better indicator than serums(damn, you need to pay attention more). Fourthly, how am I treating PM members like fools?? It is comments like this that are really going to piss me off because they are complete bullshit and unfounded!!! You are the fool who doesn't even have a clue right now what we are debating, and who has posted NOTHING to substantiate any argument!! You are the fool who is so fucking delusional that you think that people can double their IGF-1's by taking one subq injection and drawing blood 2 hours later. I mean seriously, come on folks. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand how fucked up that claim is.
muscle96ss
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Thats funny, the people on this board said the exact same thing recently about Karl and I. In fact its almost comical that you are posting here on Meso and standing up for Karl while I am on the other side with the opposing view point against Karl's tactics. CBS if you are reading, you have to admit that is funny.
"You are the fool who is so fucking delusional that you think that people can double their IGF-1's by taking one subq injection and drawing blood 2hours later"
BaaaaaaHssaaaa!!
Matt from GodTropin had his "test subject" double from baseline 3hrs after SubQ
(this had been done many times over...I've been doing this for over a year now. Readn dem clinical studies....not google info from BBing forums 10IU IM 3.5hrs)
WE SO 3008!
YOU SO 2000 AND LATE!!
See how we are working together ( members, sources, etc)
GH Serums RULE!! (For Selling Generics)
You guys juss piss in wind at PM with all that bullshit
BaaaaaaHssaaaa!!
Matt from GodTropin had his "test subject" double from baseline 3hrs after SubQ
(this had been done many times over...I've been doing this for over a year now. Readn dem clinical studies....not google info from BBing forums 10IU IM 3.5hrs)
WE SO 3008!
YOU SO 2000 AND LATE!!
See how we are working together ( members, sources, etc)
GH Serums RULE!! (For Selling Generics)
You guys juss piss in wind at PM with all that bullshit
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muscle96ss
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How does what we are doing sell a lot of GH? That doesn't make any sense at all.
Also, one of the reasons that RP is trying to keep sponsors out of the thread, is the thread was never intended to be a platform for sales and he did not want it to turn into a pissing fest between sponsors. Its for the members to post their tests results of any kind and for us to learn from them. And that includes both generic and pharm GH. Its also to keep the sponsors honest as they know we are testing the GH.
muscle96ss
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Once again, you don't even know what we are debating. What does generic have to do with it? We have tested a shitload of pharma as well.
Oh, and now its 3 hours after injection not 2. Must be the new breed of GH, it magically converts to IGF-1 before it even is absorbed into your blood. And people talk about the Chinese manufacturing mystery peptides to increase serums and trick people. I guess the pharma companies caught on and are manufacturing peptides that increase your IGF-1 immediately to trick you into thinking its real GH. If you want real GH, you gotta go generic; lol!! This thread is getting stupider by the minute!
Why if so inlove with Meso that there is any intrest at all in the goons and how they are serum testing @ PM? Theres alot of talk here about PM and guys stating they are there everyday and have read every post in the testing thread,... If this is just a place to criticize others so be it. Not everyone believes everything they read onthe web. some actually participate in trying to prove or disprove the bro science that abounds these forums. Question everything believe no one. Thats fine and Most will agree but put in a little research If ya question were RP gets his products, or his tests for that matter Question him up. post your concerns, on forum or PM , I will tell you from xperience there isnt a better, fairer,legit guy around. But I will admit I am Biased. he will answer the best he can, draw your conclusions from there no issue. But to view a few posts and come running back here and question a guy doesn't seem fair but judge for yourself.
The Rips story as M96SS stated is solid believe that.
Edit: As a matter of fact Mr. RP just addressed those that may question him check and gives discloser for wat its worth post #4195
Peace
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"And people talk about the Chinese manufacturing mysterypeptides to increase serums and trick people"
That's why I had the 2 generics tested (protein characterization) (Contained GH only)
U.S. Accredited Lab
Followed by GH Serum/IGF1 Serum
One was tested mg/IU (SIMEC)
(All from the same kit(s))
Maybe try that at PM
All my info is posted. Check it out. You might learn sumpthin
IGF1 elevates immediately after Exo GH administration
Peps (GHRP) do not
Your IGF1 elevation comment is showing your BBForum knowledge
(BroScience at it's finest)
That's why I had the 2 generics tested (protein characterization) (Contained GH only)
U.S. Accredited Lab
Followed by GH Serum/IGF1 Serum
One was tested mg/IU (SIMEC)
(All from the same kit(s))
Maybe try that at PM
All my info is posted. Check it out. You might learn sumpthin
IGF1 elevates immediately after Exo GH administration
Peps (GHRP) do not
Your IGF1 elevation comment is showing your BBForum knowledge
(BroScience at it's finest)
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muscle96ss
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Backwards my firend, we have already posted real scientific studies showing that your IGF-1 doubling comment is just that, broscience. You on other hand have posted no real science showing its capable of doubling after 1 sq injection.
BaaaaaaHaaaaaaa!!
Was it a fancy color chart n Graph?!
Was it the 2.5Hr or the 3.75Hr peak?!!
Aww mane.... You a funny guy!!!
So Again......SQUIRREL!
No mention of the real testing by accredited labs I've done!
WELL DONE MY FRIEND....WELL DONE.
YOU'RE GOOD!!
Was it a fancy color chart n Graph?!
Was it the 2.5Hr or the 3.75Hr peak?!!
Aww mane.... You a funny guy!!!
So Again......SQUIRREL!
No mention of the real testing by accredited labs I've done!
WELL DONE MY FRIEND....WELL DONE.
YOU'RE GOOD!!
muscle96ss
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You are definitely delusional, please look at post# 1241 in this thread. There its in black and white and not color and shows nothing but the opposite of what you claim.
muscle96ss
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The study was done by Tanaka et al., I don't see any studies done by Prof X!! So, once again, who is talking about real science and who is talking about broscience?
I'm not even gunna look at buddy
It's just laughable
The real response ( instead of your normal knee jerk OUR STUDIES SHOW Blah Zah Blah Zah Blah) should be ... Oh really? We should try that at PM and add that to our "DATA"
You learn lots more that way
TANAKA SMANAKA
Omnitrope (true Generic) How else would I have learned this. Certainly not at PM
I guess my high IGF1 in 5,8,10 days is impossible says Ole Tanaka
muscle96ss
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Of course your not going to look at it(after you already looked and saw you were wrong). Just ignore everything that proves you are wrong and you will always be right. What an ignorant method.
Oh, and yeah, we will waste money and time at PM trying to prove a scientific study wrong. Good idea! Lets forget about learning the things we don't know and instead try to prove wrong the things we already know. That way we can learn so much, blah blah blah.
So it's safe to say you won't be trying to double your IGF1 from baseline with one SubQ inject to add to your DATA?
Proves me wrong?
Dude....fa realz?
You a funny guy
I wonder why GodTropin was able to do it? Hmmmmm
See, again....sources and members working together to try to bring a more consistent product and a better testing method
muscle96ss
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Because its Godtropin!! Come on, with a name like that; I really can't take anything you say seriously anymore. If you hadn't lost credibility before, you are way gone now.
I don't use or recommend the product
That's why I had an accredited lab test it
I purchased the kit anonymously (it wasn't sent to me)
I was mimicking what Jim and Mands were doing here...but using Accredited Labs
Just like another Generic sources samples 30,40,50 ng/mL yet underdosed
I really recommend the Lab Testing Muscle
All BS aside. It really is the way to go
Best of luck with it
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Mr. Professor Sir,
I'll take some of that action....
for the sake of testing i will do it to the xtreme...
heres my proposal...
I will do 50 iu's my choice of generic.... I say 50 as to take it to a xtreme so there will be no question about a few points here or there raise in IGF-1 levels.
I do the 50 iu's , wait 2 - 3 hours (Yr Choice you pick the number.). And to show that I am legit on the dose I will do a serum at the same time, so my serum will be I guess based on my previous serums and them being linear 75-100 this will show I am on a huge dose of hgh or something that has my serum high... the results come in, Igf-1 and the serum on the SAME Paper, and we read them. yr science tells you my IGF-1 should be through the roof at this time. Mine says not bloody likely... I already know my IGF-1 on 30 iu's P/D for a week is >800. so on 50iu's a few hours later according to your science it should b noticable to say the least.
If you can think of a way i could fake this or alter these results lets llook at them.
This would be in the interest of true real world results as they relate to Us . I think as my science is not that of a full lab study I think it is not bro science and has a solid Footing if there are flaws I would like to hear them...
Now the stakes well lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet.....
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See.....now this is the response that moves things forward in the right direction
Wow.....why are you doing 30ius now?
Dont answer that. I don't wanna know
You don't need 50ius....but it's your test...IM or SubQ...doesn't matter
So cool...you just need to get your IGF1 back to normal first
Actually if i did not get the IGF-1 level back to normal that would be to yr benefit But good to see that you want to b fair in this respect.....
I was just on the 30 for testin purposes and that was a week only.
Better idea I will replicate Yr test and try and double down i think was yr claim...
Well you choose the Parameters...
not sure what the dose was?
You tested Sq than Sq it is....
Lets hear the details
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