MALDI-TOF-MS/HPLC-UV-VIS rHGH results

[ProfessorX]

Well, not to my benefit, no

Because of Saturation/Constant peak.....you need to do a "wash" and start from natty IGF1

So after getting back to "normal" (may take you over 2 weeks with such a high IGF1)...get an IGF1/GH Serum (IGF1 should be within range)

After that....just test how you would normally test your GH Serum to make it easy

That's it. Very simple yes?

 

[Buck1973]

Well, not to my benefit, no

Because of Saturation/Constant peak.....you need to do a "wash" and start from natty IGF1

So after getting back to "normal" (may take you over 2 weeks with such a high IGF1)...get an IGF1/GH Serum (IGF1 should be within range)

After that....just test how you would normally test your GH Serum to make it easy

That's it. Very simple yes?

So we are clear Sir I have been off that 30 dose for a month or so. Currently on Some Somas @ 3.33p/d and will have a draw on Sat. ( 1-2-16) then Off if we can come to an agreement.. My base is usually right around 110. I usually Serum test @ right around 2:15 As this is aprox. my peak time( Which I can provide documentation on ). I use 10 IU's IM. for my Serum testing.
So rethinking a little I think we should try and duplicate Yr test or yr info. so what and how did you double yr IGF-1 score @ about 2 hours? and what was the Dose. We know Sq... I can give a IGF-1 baseline at about a week off and if we are in agreement we can start.
I have plenty of generics I also Have a few Geno pens on hand I would be willing to use for this test. all products I have Serum tested and Most were IGF-1 tested and can provide that info also...
So lets lay out the protocol...
So far I have a Sq. Inject...
10 IU's? ?
Timing????

Peace in the New Year.....

 

[ProfessorX]

Just do this:

Make sure your IGF1 is back to natty (apprx 110)

Do an IGF1 Serum to show that

Do your GH Serum protocol the next day as you normally would....just add an IGF1 Serum

Just keep it simple

No need for "proof" or "documents", etc

Just your positive attitude and wanting to try something new is good enough for me

 

[Totolino]

I don't use or recommend the product

That's why I had an accredited lab test it
I purchased the kit anonymously (it wasn't sent to me)

I was mimicking what Jim and Mands were doing here...but using Accredited Labs

Just like another Generic sources samples 30,40,50 ng/mL yet underdosed

I really recommend the Lab Testing Muscle

All BS aside. It really is the way to go

Best of luck with it

Hey mate, did you post the result of the lab test anywhere or would you send it to me or at least tell the result.
Really curious because I´m going to send in one vial of godtropin to Simec in January now.

 

[Buck1973]

Just do this:

Make sure your IGF1 is back to natty (apprx 110)

Do an IGF1 Serum to show that

Do your GH Serum protocol the next day as you normally would....just add an IGF1 Serum

Just keep it simple

No need for "proof" or "documents", etc

Just your positive attitude and wanting to try something new is good enough for me

Yes Sir,
Just a matter of stakes then.
I belive my research of the science is good. That IGF-1 levels will not be affected or minimally affected.
Your beliefs are that a 5iu inject will double IGF-1 scores in aprox. 2 hours.post inject.
its fair we all pay for our education. If this test supports what I believe then Its a waste of 2 - IGF-1 tests and a Serum that were unnecessary. But you gain this Knowledge. If You are correct I gain Knowledge and am willing to pay that Bill.
So I will take a IGF-1 to try and establish a Baseline in about a week Off all HGH.
If all looks right I do the Serum and the IGF-1 together a few days later as described; 10 IU's, That double yr suggested 5 IU. so I should xpect a IGF-1 level > than double my base probably closer to Trips to win.
Who ever learns from this Xperiment Pays
Fair?

 

[ProfessorX]

I posted another BW result a few pages back

Doses I've used:
6ius
10ius
15ius

Times after inject:
2.5-3.5Hrs (apprx)

 

[muscle96ss]

Prof X - Why does he have to drop down to baseline? Can't he just draw a IGF-1 prior to injection and then a couple hours post injection? Shouldn't it have the same effect?

 

[muscle96ss]

By the way, here is a link to a thread by Meso member Colt44 where he did a serum GH test on Genotropin. He performed a baseline IGF-1 test at the same blood draw(and then did another IGF-1 test down the road after taking 6iu per day which came back 636). Based on what you are saying, Prof X, shouldn't his IGF-1 be much higher on 10iu pharm grade if his body is able to convert it as fast as you are saying?

Astro Labs Genotropin - GH Serum/IGF-1 2015-05 | MESO-Rx Forum

 

[ProfessorX]

I'm not sure I'm following you 100%

Are you saying if his IGF1 is at 400....he injects 6Ius....his IGF1 doubles (800) ?

If so, then no....absolutely not

I've always stated from baseline (natty)

It has to do with IGF1 elevation (saturation/constant peak)

Lower dose reaches saturation quicker than higher doses

I hope that makes sense.....sorry if I misunderstood the question

 

[ProfessorX]

By the way, here is a link to a thread by Meso member Colt44 where he did a serum GH test on Genotropin. He performed a baseline IGF-1 test at the same blood draw(and then did another IGF-1 test down the road after taking 6iu per day which came back 636). Based on what you are saying, Prof X, shouldn't his IGF-1 be much higher on 10iu pharm grade if his body is able to convert it as fast as you are

His IGF1 was at 224

I didn't see a baseline.....but when I did 6-15ius.....it only doubled my IGF from "natty" (apprx)

So his elevation seems about right I imagine (higher dose didn't raise IGF higher)

 

[muscle96ss]

I'm not sure I'm following you 100%

Are you saying if his IGF1 is at 400....he injects 6Ius....his IGF1 doubles (800) ?

If so, then no....absolutely not

I've always stated from baseline (natty)

It has to do with IGF1 elevation (saturation/constant peak)

Lower dose reaches saturation quicker than higher doses

I hope that makes sense.....sorry if I misunderstood the question

Please explain the bold as I am not sure I understand; especially the part about low dosages reaching saturation quicker than higher doses.

 

[ProfessorX]

Please explain the bold as I am not sure I understand; especially the part about low dosages reaching saturation quicker than higher doses.

5IUs should reach saturation apprx 8-10 days
10IUs 4 weeks appx
(can vary from individual to individual. Blood Serum is only a "marker"

 

[muscle96ss]

5IUs should reach saturation apprx 8-10 days
10IUs 4 weeks appx
(can vary from individual to individual. Blood Serum is only a "marker"

Define what you mean by "saturation"; I think that is where I am having a hard time understanding.

 

[muscle96ss]

Are you saying that on 5iu's it takes 8-10 days to get to your peak but with 10ius it will take 4 weeks to reach its peak level? In other words, different dosages, take different durations to hit their peak.

 

[ProfessorX]

Are you saying that on 5iu's it takes 8-10 days to get to your peak but with 10ius it will take 4 weeks to reach its peak level? In other words, different dosages, take different durations to hit their peak.

Stable levels or Peak Levels


Also, i see colt injected 10IUs IM 3.5Hrs and pulled bloods (IGF1 / GH Serum)

So that would not be his Baseline or "Natty" level if I'm reading all that info correctly

 

[muscle96ss]

Gotta get to bed, but I understand what you are saying and I see what you are saying about IGF-1 doubling now. The term doubling is misleading, because although from a technical aspect it doubles the number, it is only raising a fraction of what it will raise in 24 hours when the IGF-1 levels peak from that injection. I will explain more tomorrow when I have a chance, but I see what you are saying and it all now makes sense; but is still misleading with the word "doubling".

 

[ProfessorX]

All good Brutha

I see where 137 X 2 = 274 (IGF1 260) can be "misleading"

 

[ProfessorX]

Hey mate, did you post the result of the lab test anywhere or would you send it to me or at least tell the result.
Really curious because I´m going to send in one vial of godtropin to Simec in January now.

I had the very first batch tested

We have 3 newer batch samples being tested

Just waiting for results.

So, no....no new results to post (mg/IU and purity %) just yet

 

[Totolino]

I had the very first batch tested

We have 3 newer batch samples being tested

Just waiting for results.

So, no....no new results to post (mg/IU and purity %) just yet

Alright mate, found the first test meanwhile on eroids with the amino structure.
At least good to know the stuff is really gh.
Really looking forward to your results and even more to compare my Simec result with yours then.
Thanks for your efforts, already read a lot of your tests like Angtropin bust just did´nt know that this was you

 

[ProfessorX]

The 3 samples being tested now are from 2 different "batches". There seems to be some possible "issues" with some kits lately. Also, what I first tested was from the very first batch. I highly doubt what's being sold now is the same product that tested so well.

It's good to get great test results....but I think we can learn more from the samples with potential issues like the 3 samples being tested now.

Keep us updated with your samples results. Thanks