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Yes, sir....It's on its way, for what that's worth...


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mercury said:
Sorry Astro, I have not done testing on your powder so I cannot speak about the testing done by somebody else.

I have seen too many GC/MS results posted all over the place which were faked. I have been around long to take somebody word that the gear is gtg.

I have been using labmax test for some time and I trust it more that any statement made here.
It proved to me to be very reliable and it save me a lot on bunk gear. If you try to discredit labmax then you give me another reason to believe that you have bunk gear.

There is a lot of fake gear and everybody knows this, 50% on the black marked is bunk and the rest barely meets any standards.
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The fact stands labmax failed. Is labmax useless? No im not saying that. Is it 100%? Immposible I have proof. I understand you support it but unfortunatly its not full proof. Is mass spec? Yes. Flenser tested it he could have saved the primo I sent him so why the hell would I fake something he could prove? I don't need to lie if raws are bunk I expose the supplier I take care of the issue and move on.
 
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the more it gets around to well known members the better, id love the smoke to clear, and we all want answers.. im not discounting them yet. Ive googled them, and it seems there are similiar threads from years ago, saying it may be underdosed, but i doubt faked completly..
 
I have the labmax and use it also Mercury but it has been proven that sometimes the results are not conclusive with them. Especially with the specialty gear such as primo. In time they will finalize their efforts and it will be more fail safe. And you are correct in that I will no longer ever buy anything without testing it with my labmax kit. That is just part one though. I still want to know what purity is the gear I am using. Am I paying for 100 mg of tren but only getting 45? Only one way to get that answered and that is via mass spec.

I am sure in the end GETM will make everything right on their gear. I have never bought from them or had any dealings with them but just following the thread for so long I feel like they have an interest in being in it for the long haul.



mercury said:
Sorry Astro, I have not done testing on your powder so I cannot speak about the testing done by somebody else.

I have seen too many GC/MS results posted all over the place which were faked. I have been around long to take somebody word that the gear is gtg.

I have been using labmax test for some time and I trust it more that any statement made here.
It proved to me to be very reliable and it save me a lot on bunk gear. If you try to discredit labmax then you give me another reason to believe that you have bunk gear.

There is a lot of fake gear and everybody knows this, 50% on the black marked is bunk and the rest barely meets any standards.
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I hate this new fuckin setup..

That's all I need is to spend more time trying to figure more new shit out..
I might not be on here much longer..
 
whodatnation said:
I have the labmax and use it also Mercury but it has been proven that sometimes the results are not conclusive with them. Especially with the specialty gear such as primo. In time they will finalize their efforts and it will be more fail safe.
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Labmax is not the same comparing to GC/MS but it helped me to find a lot of good gear. It takes time to learn the colorimetric test but I have noticed if you have good gear it will show you it. I wish GC/MS testing would be available on every corner for $10.
 
No doubt but if you get a fail on labmax from a reputable source that has earned trust I will send to mass spec to be sure. I have had bad vials from labmax that just didn't test right. Maybe not enough crystals were in it or whatever. I use the labmax also bro and like I said I just did Astro test e last night. I also did his var a month ago. It is a very useful tool but just not 100 percent conclusive all the time.


mercury said:
Labmax is not the same comparing to GC/MS but it helped me to find a lot of good gear. It takes time to learn the colorimetric test but I have noticed if you have good gear it will show you it. I wish GC/MS testing would be available on every corner for $10.
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Astro Labs said:
The fact stands labmax failed. Is labmax useless? No im not saying that. Is it 100%? Immposible I have proof. I understand you support it but unfortunatly its not full proof. Is mass spec? Yes. Flenser tested it he could have saved the primo I sent him so why the hell would I fake something he could prove? I don't need to lie if raws are bunk I expose the supplier I take care of the issue and move on.
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Interesting. If I remember right, you sent me primo raws? According to labmax the UV will be the same for raws as for oil, but this is the second one that came up wrong. The Test C from HTP had a similar issue. Anyway, here's the UV from that test. It's definitely not the Yello-orange called for in the labmax results chart.

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ItalianMuscle27 said:
I had Strango Primo Enanthate 200 Mass Spec tested. Here are the results.. PDF attached as well.

SUMMARY:

• Methenolone Enanthate is present in 200mg/ml for Italian Muscle

sample,

• The purity is 21.3%,

• The concentration is at 51 mg/ml, not 100 mg/ml.
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Good thing they are not on this forum or you would be a liar and the test was no good as you "skewed" the numbers...


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flenser said:
Interesting. If I remember right, you sent me primo raws? According to labmax the UV will be the same for raws as for oil, but this is the second one that came up wrong. The Test C from HTP had a similar issue. Anyway, here's the UV from that test. It's definitely not the Yello-orange called for in the labmax results chart.

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I hate to say it but it's true. If you have any of the raws left I'd pay for it to be tested and you'll see the same exact results I had from the Mass Spec.

Seems like they have some ironing out to do with these tests is all. I don't think they are useless though just not 100% dependable YET
 
Astro Labs said:
I hate to say it but it's true. If you have any of the raws left I'd pay for it to be tested and you'll see the same exact results I had from the Mass Spec.

Seems like they have some ironing out to do with these tests is all. I don't think they are useless though just not 100% dependable YET
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Also depends on the user as well..


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whodatnation said:
No doubt but if you get a fail on labmax from a reputable source that has earned trust I will send to mass spec to be sure. I have had bad vials from labmax that just didn't test right. Maybe not enough crystals were in it or whatever. I use the labmax also bro and like I said I just did Astro test e last night. I also did his var a month ago. It is a very useful tool but just not 100 percent conclusive all the time.
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Those reputable sources make me to laugh always. I have done a lot of testing, if something was not conclusive I throw it out. I have only used gear which came out conclusive.
 
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