Mass Spec Thread

Saw that on AB Italian and that is very disturbing especially since whoever bought that is paying for 200 mg and only getting 1/4 th of what they paid for.


I had Strango Primo Enanthate 200 Mass Spec tested. Here are the results.. PDF attached as well.

SUMMARY:

• Methenolone Enanthate is present in 200mg/ml for Italian Muscle

sample,

• The purity is 21.3%,

• The concentration is at 51 mg/ml, not 100 mg/ml.
 
I hate to say it but it's true. If you have any of the raws left I'd pay for it to be tested and you'll see the same exact results I had from the Mass Spec.

Seems like they have some ironing out to do with these tests is all. I don't think they are useless though just not 100% dependable YET

why pay, send to labmax, they have GC/MS and the can do testing for free I am sure they will take a look at it if you claim that their test it failing. As far as I know they do not have chart for primo powder and they will be happy to check it.

and we will have the mistery solved

or are you afraid to send ? you are sending samples to big reputable lab, sorry but I do not have to much faith in your testing.
 
If you read above on flenser post Mercury this isn't the first time Lab max was wrong. HTP powder failed Lab max but come out at 80% purity on mass spec. I have full faith in Myth and Flenser on this. Sounds like Primo may end up like the Mast E where only Alp had Mast E pure enough for them to make a test out of twenty or so samples. We are here to work together in this and make the days of getting bunk shit gone forever.
 
Interesting. If I remember right, you sent me primo raws? According to labmax the UV will be the same for raws as for oil, but this is the second one that came up wrong. The Test C from HTP had a similar issue. Anyway, here's the UV from that test. It's definitely not the Yello-orange called for in the labmax results chart.

HTP has had an issue?
... nevermind... just saw this last post come in.
 
If you read above on flenser post Mercury this isn't the first time Lab max was wrong. HTP powder failed Lab max but come out at 80% purity on mass spec. I have full faith in Myth and Flenser on this. Sounds like Primo may end up like the Mast E where only Alp had Mast E pure enough for them to make a test out of twenty or so samples. We are here to work together in this and make the days of getting bunk shit gone forever.

there is no chart for mast powder on labmax page, if you have powder I would send it to labmax they will test it for free and update the chart
 
So the htp test c and astro's primo were tested in raw form right? It seems like testing raws is where the problem is with lab max, correct?

I don't want to see labmax discredited if this is indeed the issue, UGLs will start pointing to this on all failed tests on FINISHED product if you keep harping on it Astro.. Thanks for pointing all this out but you've been talking about how lab max can't be trusted since yesterday and that's not the case..
 
So the htp test c and astro's primo were tested in raw form right? It seems like testing raws is where the problem is with lab max, correct?

I do not see color coding for raws on labmax page, except test and tren, deca, bold

and I think very high concentration and very low concentration of final product can make difference how it looks like under UV.

If you guys send they raws to labmax for testing I am sure that they will update it and you will have free GC/MS testing.

they actually explained it with test enan, that there is difference uderdosed and potent under UV.
 
So the htp test c and astro's primo were tested in raw form right? It seems like testing raws is where the problem is with lab max, correct?

I don't want to see labmax discredited if this is indeed the issue, UGLs will start pointing to this on all failed tests on FINISHED product if you keep harping on it Astro.. Thanks for pointing all this out but you've been talking about how lab max can't be trusted since yesterday and that's not the case..
I never said that it is no good. I said its not 100% accurate because its not. Now if we sold 100 vials of a failed labmax compound I would be getting crucified. So I am pointing out a fault. I am in no way saying its completely inaccurate.

Not to mention I only came here because some ass wants to make up stories so I had no choice but to point it out. The last thing I want is for another src to use this as leverage but I can not nor will I not point it out as it needs to be noted. There's mass spec available for any second opinion needed so in reality a source really cant use it as reference for long.
 
I never said that it is no good. I said its not 100% accurate because its not.

you still do not get it, there is no chart for mast raw powder on labmax page, I told you send a sample to labmax, they will update the chart and you will get free GC/MS testing.

and then you can walk around and say that it is good because it passed labmax test.

Nobody can claim that your raw powder failed labmax, because there is no test for it, no color coding for this.
 
you still do not get it, there is no chart for mast raw powder on labmax page, I told you send a sample to labmax, they will update the chart and you will get free GC/MS testing.

and then you can walk around and say that it is good because it passed labmax test.

Nobody can claim that your raw powder failed labmax, because there is no test for it, no color coding for this.

I have mast e powder now I could send that I know is 100% Mast E. Send me his ingrown I will email him sonthe foul have real mast e powder.
 
I do not drink beer with labmax, I am just their customer like most people here and I like the product.

Use their contact page and basically tell what the problem is, they will do this. They have already did testing like this before. If there is a problem with the test, they will take serious look at this. They have very good customer support and they are serious about their product.
 
I hate to say it but it's true. If you have any of the raws left I'd pay for it to be tested and you'll see the same exact results I had from the Mass Spec.

Seems like they have some ironing out to do with these tests is all. I don't think they are useless though just not 100% dependable YET

I agree with you. I was told the ONLY determining factor for UV color was the steroid, and that the UV for raws would always be the same as for oil. Maybe I didn't add enough powder or something. I would test it again, but I'm pretty sure I tossed the sample. I will check when I get home.

I'll email you the labmax address. He would love to get legit samples of both the primo and mast e raws.

I'm glad you didn't just take my labmax results at face value and toss your primo!
 
Hey Astro, off topic but I have been reading through the site a bit and you seem to have the best HGH that actually works. How is that for mass speculation lol. What do you think is the best bang for your buck with the pharma grade that you carry? Also, which one gives you energy as well? I tried messaging you but couldn't..
 
Good thing they are not on this forum or you would be a liar and the test was no good as you "skewed" the numbers...


-Myth-

I get what your saying, but I have no reason to lie or falsify documents. Strango himself urged me to get it tested, so I did. He also wants to get a few exotics mass spec tested now, so I am sure he might join the thread or get in contact with you.
 
FYI, if you are not a vet on this board, I will not test for you, recent events have changed my mind on helping people...Seems there is another board that likes to see people get ripped off instead of helping them...


-Myth-

I knew somebody would eventually screw it up myth, will you still test dgs stuff for me
 
FYI, if you are not a vet on this board, I will not test for you, recent events have changed my mind on helping people...Seems there is another board that likes to see people get ripped off instead of helping them...


-Myth-


God damn it, thus pisses me off. I dont understand why people have to question others integrity when its clear they have nothing to gain.

Myth do you care to elaborate on the board?
 
MYTH,

I was going to get some spec's done through you. Punish those who messed up, not those who did nothing wrong. If not thought I understand and respect that.
 
God damn it, thus pisses me off. I dont understand why people have to question others integrity when its clear they have nothing to gain.

Myth do you care to elaborate on the board?
Agreed, I've looked around but I don't think I've seen the full story.

Also what makes someone a vet? Just curious

thanks
 
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