Mass Spec Thread

Ive got raws and finished product and I would be willing to pay to have tested, both from widely used sources
 
I am in. Will pm shortly.

This is what we needed! There is no where to run now.

Thank you.
 
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Protect the lab that you are doing this at.....about 4 years ago a gambit of universities got in trouble for testing illegal compounds. Thanks for dong this though man, sorry I am unable to assist.
 
Mass specs give purity scores. Keep in mind that purity is often unrelated to potency. You can have a high potency product with poor purity.

Depending on the source/makeup of the impurity, lower scores can create problems, like pip.

Pip is, as a general rule is related to metal content. Usually metals are picked up in the manufacturing process if procedures are not tightly regulated.

Raws can also, obviously, contribute to impurities. I can't recall the details, but there are methods of misinterpreting mass spec assays. Th Chinese will often give the misleading data, showing 98% purity, when in reality it is much, much lower.

In reality, your average home brewer produces product that is around 55% pure.

60-70% is good-very good, 80% is excellent, and pharm is usually 90% or above.

My gear has tested 56% and 73% respectively. I am going to sever my relationship with my partner, unless these numbers move up. He is very serious about getting to the root of the issue. We use all glass, so the impurities are coming from somewhere else, most likely the powder. 73% is way above average, but 56% is bathtub brew. I am, to say the least, very unhappy with these numbers. There is no arguing over high quality science.

Lab max tells you that either the product is there, or not there. Purity % tell you about quality.

If you understand mass specs, and demand products scoring above 80%, they are out there. There are even a few over 90%. You will pay a premium, but IMO, it is worth it.
 
Nobody gives a shit about your so called raws. They're all impure. You're the worst kind of scum. Posting personal info and putting out bunk product? Blaming this "partner" now? You need to sever your head from your spine. Douche bag.
 
Mass specs give purity scores. Keep in mind that purity is often unrelated to potency. You can have a high potency product with poor purity.



Depending on the source/makeup of the impurity, lower scores can create problems, like pip.



Pip is, as a general rule is related to metal content. Usually metals are picked up in the manufacturing process if procedures are not tightly regulated.



Raws can also, obviously, contribute to impurities. I can't recall the details, but there are methods of misinterpreting mass spec assays. Th Chinese will often give the misleading data, showing 98% purity, when in reality it is much, much lower.



In reality, your average home brewer produces product that is around 55% pure.



60-70% is good-very good, 80% is excellent, and pharm is usually 90% or above.



My gear has tested 56% and 73% respectively. I am going to sever my relationship with my partner, unless these numbers move up. He is very serious about getting to the root of the issue. We use all glass, so the impurities are coming from somewhere else, most likely the powder. 73% is way above average, but 56% is bathtub brew. I am, to say the least, very unhappy with these numbers. There is no arguing over high quality science.



Lab max tells you that either the product is there, or not there. Purity % tell you about quality.



If you understand mass specs, and demand products scoring above 80%, they are out there. There are even a few over 90%. You will pay a premium, but IMO, it is worth it.


Holy shit, that's the only reason you'd consider getting out of this?? You have almost a death wish when it comes to your freedom..

I used to think you were a good guy PC, just weird.. Now that your "partner" has been shown selling fakes and contaminated gear you still want to be a part of it? You've been taking pain pills and having funds wired to your wife?! Wake up before it's too late, if it isn't already..
 
Mass specs give purity scores. Keep in mind that purity is often unrelated to potency. You can have a high potency product with poor purity.

Depending on the source/makeup of the impurity, lower scores can create problems, like pip.

Pip is, as a general rule is related to metal content. Usually metals are picked up in the manufacturing process if procedures are not tightly regulated.

Raws can also, obviously, contribute to impurities. I can't recall the details, but there are methods of misinterpreting mass spec assays. Th Chinese will often give the misleading data, showing 98% purity, when in reality it is much, much lower.

In reality, your average home brewer produces product that is around 55% pure.

60-70% is good-very good, 80% is excellent, and pharm is usually 90% or above.

My gear has tested 56% and 73% respectively. I am going to sever my relationship with my partner, unless these numbers move up. He is very serious about getting to the root of the issue. We use all glass, so the impurities are coming from somewhere else, most likely the powder. 73% is way above average, but 56% is bathtub brew. I am, to say the least, very unhappy with these numbers. There is no arguing over high quality science.

Lab max tells you that either the product is there, or not there. Purity % tell you about quality.

If you understand mass specs, and demand products scoring above 80%, they are out there. There are even a few over 90%. You will pay a premium, but IMO, it is worth it.


Really PC? You couldn't even wait 24 hours after getting banned from Eroids to slink back to Meso? I expected better. I knew you'd be back but I expected you to hold out a little longer than that. Ridiculous.
 
All that sage advice from a douchebag that never brewed a vial of gear in his life- and representing a company that sells products at 0% purity.
 
Not to mention half of what he said is just plain wrong.

And what kind of scammer uses the same screen name. We all know he isn't a good source, but he is also a terrible scammer. I mean how shitty do you have to be to suck at something like being a scammer? If I sucked that bad at life I would just end it.yep percilus pretty sure you should just end it, end it all.
 
how long will it take to get results from the tests normally?

That's the problem. Mass specs are very expensive. The way most get them done is through a publicly funded University lab. The government funding pays for most of the costs. TA for tests are maybe 10 days.

So, you are getting the government to pay for the test of a substance that the government deems illegal. Ironic.

However, mass specs will in all likelihood become cheaper and more accessible over time.
 
Really PC? You couldn't even wait 24 hours after getting banned from Eroids to slink back to Meso? I expected better. I knew you'd be back but I expected you to hold out a little longer than that. Ridiculous.

Someone PMed me. I have also become fascinated with Mass spec testing.
Kind of my hobby horse right now.

Picking up some 91-93% pure gear soon. There is one place that is proven to have that score. There are a few others that are well into the 80's. What other people think of me does not matter. Getting extremely pure gear is what really matters, IMO.

Mass specs are the future, and this is a great thing for consumers.
 
That's the problem. Mass specs are very expensive. The way most get them done is through a publicly funded University lab. The government funding pays for most of the costs. TA for tests are maybe 10 days.

So, you are getting the government to pay for the test of a substance that the government deems illegal. Ironic.

However, mass specs will in all likelihood become cheaper and more accessible over time.


PC, fuck off. Nobody is talking to you. More importantly, nobody wants to hear you expound on a subject you know nothing about.

How can you even come back to Meso and expect to be taken seriously? I can't say I'm surprised you came back. I fully expected it. I just don't understand why you would want to be on a forum you dislike. You made your feelings about Meso very clear. Yet without an ounce of shame, here you are. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. Pathetic.

Biologic1

Everyone knows MESO is a joke. Read what eroid vets like ROID NOID have to say: Steroids Forum: General/General Talk/Eroids vs Meso-RX (other boards too)

MESO is a dysfunctional forum made up of ignorant and clueless conspiracy theorists.
 
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