Masteron as growth promoter

[MuscleFreak]

More on Masteron as a Growth Promoter

Be careful you check your source of information

Here we can see the Patent Application of the application of Drostanalone as a Growth Promoter in Livestock ( what Trenbolone and Clenbuterol are perhaps best known for )

I mean come on now, who would have the audacity to first test Drostanalone as Growth Promoter in Rats and then Cattle, demonstrate its efficiency and then log a Patent to that effect ?

Don't those dumb arses know Masteron does not result in Tissue Growth ?

Don't they read the Steroid Websites ?

Some random Company called Syntex apparently whoever they are haha Dumarses..

PS for any that dont know Syntex are the Original Developers of many of the Drugs you use, including Masteron....

But what do they know, they just developed the Drug after all, the guy down your local Gym knows better than them, right ?

Drostanolone and its Ester Drostanolone Propionate were first described in 1959

Drostanolone Propionate was first introduced for medical use in 1961.

This patent was lodged in 1975..

 

[mands]

Body weight doesn’t always correlate to muscle tissue growth. Both abstracts state a increase in body weight. It also states that there were no body composition changes in the study group.

I would have to read the whole study but whoever wrote this probably has too much stock of masteron

mands

 

[MuscleFreak]

Body weight doesn’t always correlate to muscle tissue growth. Both abstracts state a increase in body weight. It also states that there were no body composition changes in the study group.

I would have to read the whole study but whoever wrote this probably has too much stock of masteron

mands

Body composition stay the same in both group but 32% more body weight so it means body fat stay the same but they gain weight and 32% is not small increase at all...was it water or muscle then? Hahaha logic says it all

 

[stone988]

All steroids that we use cause around the same amount of actual muscle growth. At then end of the day remove all the water ect and you will have around the same actual growth. Most people have no clue what muscle really is and go by weight, volume and strength. Remove the bloat, water and so forth they all have around the same effect to actual muscle. We all know that guy who weighs 260 and then competes at 198. What did he actually have? and what did he lose? Meanwhile another guy who is at 215 competes at 198. Who had more muscle? Answer they are about the same. Masteron builds muscle! its just not what most people want, or notice, they want weight and size, caused by carbohydrate storage, water retention, and fat. Masteron has little water retention and is very dry. Any AAS causes growth. On another note Clen causes muscle growth in live stock and has replaced Tren and other steroids, and yet in humans it really cant be compared to any steroid. The carry over from cattle to humans isnt as simple or as equal as people think or proclaim.

 

[Test_Subject]

Wait, who said that mast didn't promote growth?

 

[RomanMVP]

Wait, who said that mast didn't promote growth?

I think alot of BBs believe that mast has little to do with size, only used as a finishing product. But for those who actually have used it, damn right it promotes growth. And that growth is solid and lean.

 

[cmK9s33]

I think alot of BBs believe that mast has little to do with size, only used as a finishing product. But for those who actually have used it, damn right it promotes growth. And that growth is solid and lean.

Yeah, lots of anecdotes claiming “it’s just a cosmetic drug” or “just a hardener” etc.

While it’s not as potent a muscle builder (per mg) as many other aas, it definitely builds muscle and improves strength as well.

 

[MuscleFreak]

I think alot of BBs believe that mast has little to do with size, only used as a finishing product. But for those who actually have used it, damn right it promotes growth. And that growth is solid and lean.

100%!!!! That is so much bro science...all my off season cycles are test + mast or primo, sometimes mix of both and i am 230lbs lean at almost 5'7...all of my size is gained with them and not so called "bulking" drugs

 

[Avies48]

100%!!!! That is so much bro science...all my off season cycles are test + mast or primo, sometimes mix of both and i am 230lbs lean at almost 5'7...all of my size is gained with them and not so called "bulking" drugs

How does mast effect the blood markers? Worse, the same or less than test?

Same question about primo?? ^^^^^^

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Good study
I always wondered how anyone could say Mast doesnt cause growth.
Just the effect on free Testosterone would be enough for some growth.

it's hard to argue that having significantly more Free T will not lead to muscle being built!

 

[Formsh1ft]

Has anyone ever tried a masteron only cycle?

So far everybody on here has used it together with a testosterone base so it's very hard to contribute X amount of growth to the masteron.

 

[cmK9s33]

How does mast effect the blood markers? Worse, the same or less than test?

Same question about primo?? ^^^^^^

It's gonna be somewhat individual but generally (and I found this to be true) mast was a little less bad on hdl/ldl than test and primo was effectively neutral on lipids. Granted, the most I ever used was 500mg mast and 600mg primo. None of them did anything of significance to my liver markers.

 

[Human_backhoe]

Has anyone ever tried a masteron only cycle?

So far everybody on here has used it together with a testosterone base so it's very hard to contribute X amount of growth to the masteron.

Not smart to run a cycle solely off something that does aromatise..... Great way to crash you e2 and feel like shit.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Not smart to run a cycle solely off something that does aromatise..... Great way to crash you e2 and feel like shit.

Yup
I'd be worried about even running 200T with 400 Mast personally
depending on how you aromatise, you could even POSSIBLY crash e2 with a low Test base

 

[Silentlemon1011]

It's gonna be somewhat individual but generally (and I found this to be true) mast was a little less bad on hdl/ldl than test and primo was effectively neutral on lipids. Granted, the most I ever used was 500mg mast and 600mg primo. None of them did anything of significance to my liver markers.

Seems like a nice cycle

I want to run
500 T
500 Mast
500 Primo
One day, nice and clean

 

[Formsh1ft]

Not smart to run a cycle solely off something that does aromatise..... Great way to crash you e2 and feel like shit.

While true, that was not the point I was trying to make.

If you take masteron with other compounds you simply can't say that masteron is a musclebuilder. You can only make that claim if someone would do a mast only cycle, which nobody does.

That's the same as taking paracetamol with 500mg testosterone and then claim that paracetamol builds muscle lol.

Ergo, stop talking bullshit.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

While true, that was not the point I was trying to make.

If you take masteron with other compounds you simply can't say that masteron is a musclebuilder. You can only make that claim if someone would do a mast only cycle, which nobody does.

That's the same as taking paracetamol with 500mg testosterone and then claim that paracetamol builds muscle lol.

Ergo, stop talking bullshit.

But thats just not how Mast works.

Its Anabolic rating is quite low.
Where it really shines is its effect on SHBG.

It's like having mashed potatoes and gravy...
But removing the test is like removing the mashed potatoes.
Drinking gravy doesnt sound like a good idea.

Mast can make your Testosterone go SO MUCH further, that's a reason it's such a great TRT add on, like the Anabolic Doc says.

Running Mast alone, although interesting, would completely handicap the compound.

I get your point, to test its muscle building properties... but we already know how it excels as a compound.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

But thats just not how Mast works.

Its Anabolic rating is quite low.
Where it really shines is its effect on SHBG.

It's like having mashed potatoes and gravy...
But removing the test is like removing the mashed potatoes.
Drinking gravy doesnt sound like a good idea.

Mast can make your Testosterone go SO MUCH further, that's a reason it's such a great TRT add on, like the Anabolic Doc says.

Running Mast alone, although interesting, would completely handicap the compound.

I get your point, to test its muscle building properties... but we already know how it excels as a compound.

STFU! Gravy is WAY better than the mashed potatoes! You’re fucked up if you aren’t drinking gravy! Lol.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

STFU! Gravy is WAY better than the mashed potatoes! You’re fucked up if you aren’t drinking gravy! Lol.

If we are being 100% honest here.
There is 0 point in mashed potatoes without fuxking gravy.

Honestly, what kind of fucking psychotic person just eats STRAIGHT UP mashed potatoes.

Brah, need that green peppercorn gravy on the GARLIC mashed potatoes (Skin on potatoes for texture)

Fuck, now I'm hungry.... fuck my macros for today

 

[Human_backhoe]

If we are being 100% honest here.
There is 0 point in mashed potatoes without fuxking gravy.

Honestly, what kind of fucking psychotic person just eats STRAIGHT UP mashed potatoes.

Brah, need that green peppercorn gravy on the GARLIC mashed potatoes (Skin on potatoes for texture)

Fuck, now I'm hungry.... fuck my macros for today

I don't give a fuck. I still build a mashed potatoes bowl for my gravy!