Masteron as growth promoter

[Formsh1ft]

Upping the Test, may as well jump on cycle.
Obviously depending on the individual, but if I up my TRT test, it means my lipids start to creep up/down respective of LDL/HDL

It also means I have to re-dial in Aromasin.

It's also no longer TRT if Test is upped.
Onviously there is a place for these excellent DHT Derivatives.
Upping the Test is not always the solution.

Staying at a good controlled and dialed in dosage that a person is comfortable with, then adding Primo/Mast or Proviron is vastly preferable and will yield different benefits.
With less sides in many cases (Individually dependant)

I'm just not understanding your logic here?
Why not flush Mast/Primo/Proviron down the drain and just either SuperCruise and/or Just run a tonne of Test.

Test only is a great cycle, but a lot of guys cant run a huge amount of Test without nasty sides.

There is a situation for every compound, Mast is great and does a great job especially with Nandrolone.

Not too sure what you're trying to say TBH

How is a TRT dose with added proviron not cycling?

125mg test a week + 50mg proviron every day is still 475mg AAS a week though. I personally wouldn't call that TRT as well....

 

[RomanMVP]

I’m the same way. I’m on doc trt. Doc actually signed a form where I can donate as often as every two weeks. I don’t of course but do donate every 1.5-2 months. Well covid had me slacking but I’m back donating often again. Just donated 5 weeks ago and will do so again in a few weeks after I do mid cycle labs. Just my trt alone puts my hemo border line high. Also taking IP-6 recommended by Dante as it’s an iron chelator.

I just gave double reds a week ago, that's really the way to go.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

How is a TRT dose with added proviron not cycling?

125mg test a week + 50mg proviron every day is still 475mg AAS a week though. I personally wouldn't call that TRT as well....

Because doctors will even prescribe that........

If you think a little Proviron is bad, you should see the Deca some places provide.

But either way, your just talking semantics at this point and seem to be arguing for the sake of argument.

I'm all down for discussions, but I really, truly... dont know the point your trying to make or perspective you're trying to convey.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

While true, that was not the point I was trying to make.

If you take masteron with other compounds you simply can't say that masteron is a musclebuilder. You can only make that claim if someone would do a mast only cycle, which nobody does.

That's the same as taking paracetamol with 500mg testosterone and then claim that paracetamol builds muscle lol.

Ergo, stop talking bullshit.

Well if you already how much you can gain from x amount of test than it shouldn't be a problem. Like say you ran 400test for 3-6 months then added masteron. One could hypothesize that any gains after the added masteron could be measured alone. Ergo stop getting butt hurt cause you misspoke haha

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Mashed potatoes suck. That’s like baby food. Have you ever had french fries smothered in beef gravy?

Dooood Texas toast, fries on top of that smothered in cheese! Heart eyes for daaayyzz

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Well if you already how much you can gain from x amount of test than it shouldn't be a problem. Like say you ran 400test for 3-6 months then added masteron. One could hypothesize that any gains after the added masteron could be measured alone. Ergo stop getting butt hurt cause you misspoke haha

Unless I'm mistaken
Mast has an Anabolic rating of around 50ish
So we can expect APPROXIMATELY half the gains per mg of Testosterone (Pretty shitty way of measuring, I know.. considering the thousands of mitigating factors like Amount of test being run, the persons response to a particular compound amongst many others)

There isnt a lot of "Guesswork" when 8t comes to Mast, its s heavily researched compound.

Unlike something like Tren or DHB that are/were not highly studied in a medical scenario.

I'll just say this, Mast is awesome
But not as awesome as fucking Poutine

Gainz are temporary
Poutine is forever, it is eternal
Poutine is legion

 

[cmK9s33]

Unless I'm mistaken
Mast has an Anabolic rating of around 50ish
So we can expect APPROXIMATELY half the gains per mg of Testosterone (Pretty shitty way of measuring, I know.. considering the thousands of mitigating factors like Amount of test being run, the persons response to a particular compound amongst many others)

There isnt a lot of "Guesswork" when 8t comes to Mast, its s heavily researched compound.

Unlike something like Tren or DHB that are/were not highly studied in a medical scenario.

I'll just say this, Mast is awesome
But not as awesome as fucking Poutine

Gainz are temporary
Poutine is forever, it is eternal
Poutine is legion

Well, the ratio varies from 60-100:25-40 depending on source. But there's SO many examples of those ratios being outright non-applicable in humans that we know only to use them as a rough starting point. Some of the examples I mean are winstrol (320:30), proviron (150:40) and anavar (600:20).

As you said, other factors will have a lot to say about what someone actually yields in terms of gains from use of mast.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Well, the ratio varies from 60-100:25-40 depending on source. But there's SO many examples of those ratios being outright non-applicable in humans that we know only to use them as a rough starting point. Some of the examples I mean are winstrol (320:30), proviron (150:40) and anavar (600:20).

As you said, other factors will have a lot to say about what someone actually yields in terms of gains from use of mast.

This is EXTREMELY accurate.

A LOT of crazy variables.

 

[Test_Subject]

Masteron doesn't promote muscle growth. Don't let the fact that it's an anabolic substance fool you into thinking that it's anabolic substance.

Next, we can discuss if anti-estrogens actually manage estrogen levels.

 

[Human_backhoe]

Masteron doesn't promote muscle growth. Don't let the fact that it's an anabolic substance fool you into thinking that it's anabolic substance.

Next, we can discuss if anti-estrogens actually manage estrogen levels.

Let the argument begin lol!!!!!

 

[cmK9s33]

Masteron doesn't promote muscle growth. Don't let the fact that it's an anabolic substance fool you into thinking that it's anabolic substance.

Next, we can discuss if anti-estrogens actually manage estrogen levels.

 

[Formsh1ft]

Because doctors will even prescribe that........

If you think a little Proviron is bad, you should see the Deca some places provide.

But either way, your just talking semantics at this point and seem to be arguing for the sake of argument.

I'm all down for discussions, but I really, truly... dont know the point your trying to make or perspective you're trying to convey.

Sorry, I didn't mean to. We all have different views on the subject and our own way of interpreting things. I didn't want to undermine yours

Masteron has it's place, no doubt about that, but for me personally it always was a complimentary compound to let's say test, deca and even tren.

 

[Whopperflopper]

STFU! Gravy is WAY better than the mashed potatoes! You’re fucked up if you aren’t drinking gravy! Lol.

I love gravy, especially that Salisbury steak gravy in the TV dinner family pack.
The wife also doesn't like a lot of fat on her Ribeyes, so I'll trim it so she just gets the center cut, I get the rest.
Sorry, nothing derails a thread faster than Gravy, and Fat on the tracks.
My only opinion on Mast is I want to try it with my next blast. Until then, just Cruising on the Gravy Train.

 

[SILVERBACK1910]

100%!!!! That is so much bro science...all my off season cycles are test + mast or primo, sometimes mix of both and i am 230lbs lean at almost 5'7...all of my size is gained with them and not so called "bulking" drugs

Was looking for a thread and feedback like this, I will start my summer/autumn blast of test cyp/mast en at 300mg/200 mg for 20 weeks hopefully by August and can't wait, the heat helps me eat more and drink more and I am gunning for a cartload of clean food to base this bulk on (occasional threats or cheat will happen but not going overboard with those)

 

[MuscleFreak]

Was looking for a thread and feedback like this, I will start my summer/autumn blast of test cyp/mast en at 300mg/200 mg for 20 weeks hopefully by August and can't wait, the heat helps me eat more and drink more and I am gunning for a cartload of clean food to base this bulk on (occasional threats or cheat will happen but not going overboard with those)

That's a good way to start,but later u Will need up the mast e to 400mg to get all the benefits from it

 

[Para_33]

Wrong we could use estrogen+Mast like they do in cattle, but no man wants to knowingly inject estrogen for and experiment.

I’m doing it. Never taken masteron though.

I’m actually decided to do Tren only with injectable Estradiol Valerate. I’m just about cleared out of the 175mg testosterone propionate I was using on this combo.

I still have like quite a bit of Deca in my system though. So right now it’s Deca/Tren only with injectable E2

 

[VenomYo]

mast made my lats hairy