Masteron as growth promoter

[Silentlemon1011]

I wasnt rapey but my shit was so sore. Like literally had rug burn and that motherfuker for 3 weeks straight and for a few weeks after until it healed up. I was relieved to not have to jerk off 3+ times of day when I gave up on that cycle lol

The 3 times is definitely tiresome
It's almost a chore after a month, not even really enjoying it

I think you guys need to always have a bottle of Shibari handy. Always smooth, never greasy!

Always handy LOL

 

[Test_Subject]

I don’t really think anyone stated masteron doesn’t promote muscle growth but at what rate or what percentage of lean muscle vs. total body weight gain, I have no idea.

The study percentages that these abstracts state are on rats and heifers. Not humans. I personally haven’t seen any studies on humans using masteron and lean muscle tissue growth. So the 32% number @MuscleFreak is irrelevant to the original author or whoever originally posted it.

mands

Exactly. You have to be wary of drawing cross-species correlations.

Grapes can cause kidney failure in dogs, therefore grapes are poisonous to humans.

 

[mands]

I'm from Canada. Poutine is breakfast lunch and dinner up here!!

Poutine > Masteron

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U would eat poutine for at least one snack a day if I could

mands

 

[RomanMVP]

The 3 times is definitely tiresome
It's almost a chore after a month, not even really enjoying it



Always handy LOL

Isn't Amazon great??

 

[Test_Subject]

On the subject of poutine: if any of you ever make it up to Quebec city, try a place called Le Chic Shack in the Place d'Armes.

Their poutine is boner-inducing.

 

[CrispyRockClimber]

I may try to cruise on hcg+Mast at some point and get some bloodwork. I’ll make a log of that.

 

[Eman]

Seriously wish I was smarter LOL
Same thing.
Tren is doing serious work, ok up about 10 lbs + and looking leaner and dry.

I was borderline rapist and I had to bust a nut minimum 3x a day while on JUST tren and test.

Now, I'm still horny with the Primo added but not rapey, Trensomnia is way down, even night sweats are better.

I need to give a shout out to @Eman to maybe explain this to me lol

I really don't know. My best guess is that primobolan is competing for some of the same receptors or decreasing gene expression from the tren. Basically, it's like you lowered your tren dose... Again, just my best guess.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

On the subject of poutine: if any of you ever make it up to Quebec city, try a place called Le Chic Shack in the Place d'Armes.

Their poutine is boner-inducing.

Definitely will give it a shot.

If you're in Toronto try Nom Nom Nom poutine.

It's a little stall that pumps out some serious Poutine eats, by Queen street if I remember correctly
Rated as the best Poutine house in TO.
Fucking crush some poutine at lunch there.... you're fuckes the rest of the day... may as well go home after Poutine #2

 

[Formsh1ft]

But thats just not how Mast works.

Its Anabolic rating is quite low.
Where it really shines is its effect on SHBG.

It's like having mashed potatoes and gravy...
But removing the test is like removing the mashed potatoes.
Drinking gravy doesnt sound like a good idea.

Mast can make your Testosterone go SO MUCH further, that's a reason it's such a great TRT add on, like the Anabolic Doc says.

Running Mast alone, although interesting, would completely handicap the compound.

I get your point, to test its muscle building properties... but we already know how it excels as a compound.

Testosterone itself already lowers SHBG to such a degree that masteron as well as proviron don't do much for SHBG anymore, so that brings me to the exact same point.

If you take testosterone and masteron together, how do you what effect masteron has on SHBG while SHBG is already lowered substantially by the exogenous testosterone itself?

 

[Test_Subject]

Definitely will give it a shot.

If you're in Toronto try Nom Nom Nom poutine.

It's a little stall that pumps out some serious Poutine eats, by Queen street if I remember correctly
Rated as the best Poutine house in TO.
Fucking crush some poutine at lunch there.... you're fuckes the rest of the day... may as well go home after Poutine #2

I'm not far away. Next time I head there on business I'll check it out.

I'm still sad about Dangerous Dan's closing

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Testosterone itself already lowers SHBG to such a degree that masteron as well as proviron don't do much for SHBG anymore, so that brings me to the exact same point.

If you take testosterone and masteron together, how do you what effect masteron has on SHBG while SHBG is already lowered substantially by the exogenous testosterone itself?

There was a bloodtest a member posted a short while back.
The difference in Free Testosterone on their TRT only Vs TRT plus Proviron was crazy
Like a 30+% jump in Free T, just from adding low dose Proviron
So I can't get behind the "It doesnt do anything for free Test"
As there is plenty of evidence to suggest otherwise.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

On the subject of poutine: if any of you ever make it up to Quebec city, try a place called Le Chic Shack in the Place d'Armes.

Their poutine is boner-inducing.

Nevermind Tren. Poutine (or even just gravy fries) makes me “rapey”

 

[Human_backhoe]

Nevermind Tren. Poutine (or even just gravy fries) makes me “rapey”

Hahahah! Today belongs to you sir!

 

[Avies48]

Currently running this now

400 T
600 MastE/TrenE blend
750 Primo

Dayum, some people are just lucky i guess, my blood would be tar..... Test alone on trt and my blood thickens.... Guess i wont get to try the nectar....

 

[Blange89]

Awesome
Keep us posted

It is weird, but it seems like Primo crushes my Tren sides.
When I added 400 Primo to my T and 350 tren, sides started to disappear.
I wish I was smarter and could figure it out lol.

Would love to try that combo in the future, but I just dint think my physique or numbers in PL are good enough to justify running Tren, other than my one experiment.
Maybe in a year or so I'll run a similar stack with lower MG
So long as I can continue my trend of 20lbs muscle growth per year for just ONE MORE time lol

You may be on to something. Tren always makes me a sexually maniac. I was told taking it with mast and proviron like I am now that I would be insanely horny. Thing is, I’m not. Doesn’t even feel like a tren cycle. Wonder if like you say, the primo is effecting the tren? Idk. Still seeing what I should be from the tren like the vascularity and my cardio has went to shit so I’m definitely not complaining as it’s doing it’s thing.

I'm im primo right now and its totally crushed my test sides. I think maybe primo helps me metabolise estrogen faster.

 

[Formsh1ft]

I'm im primo right now and its totally crushed my test sides. I think maybe primo helps me metabolise estrogen faster.

DHT derivatives can cause a better androgenic to estrogenic ratio and this can eliminate a lot of side effects, like gyno and dick/libido problems. Primo, mast, proviron, winstrol etc etc.

There was a bloodtest a member posted a short while back.
The difference in Free Testosterone on their TRT only Vs TRT plus Proviron was crazy
Like a 30+% jump in Free T, just from adding low dose Proviron
So I can't get behind the "It doesnt do anything for free Test"
As there is plenty of evidence to suggest otherwise.

He could have also upped the test and have the same results.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

DHT derivatives can cause a better androgenic to estrogenic ratio and this can eliminate a lot of side effects, like gyno and dick/libido problems. Primo, mast, proviron, winstrol etc etc.


He could have also upped the test and have the same results.

Upping the Test, may as well jump on cycle.
Obviously depending on the individual, but if I up my TRT test, it means my lipids start to creep up/down respective of LDL/HDL

It also means I have to re-dial in Aromasin.

It's also no longer TRT if Test is upped.
Onviously there is a place for these excellent DHT Derivatives.
Upping the Test is not always the solution.

Staying at a good controlled and dialed in dosage that a person is comfortable with, then adding Primo/Mast or Proviron is vastly preferable and will yield different benefits.
With less sides in many cases (Individually dependant)

I'm just not understanding your logic here?
Why not flush Mast/Primo/Proviron down the drain and just either SuperCruise and/or Just run a tonne of Test.

Test only is a great cycle, but a lot of guys cant run a huge amount of Test without nasty sides.

There is a situation for every compound, Mast is great and does a great job especially with Nandrolone.

Not too sure what you're trying to say TBH

 

[EazyE]

Upping the Test, may as well jump on cycle.
Obviously depending on the individual, but if I up my TRT test, it means my lipids start to creep up/down respective of LDL/HDL

It also means I have to re-dial in Aromasin.

It's also no longer TRT if Test is upped.
Onviously there is a place for these excellent DHT Derivatives.
Upping the Test is not always the solution.

Staying at a good controlled and dialed in dosage that a person is comfortable with, then adding Primo/Mast or Proviron is vastly preferable and will yield different benefits.
With less sides in many cases (Individually dependant)

I'm just not understanding your logic here?
Why not flush Mast/Primo/Proviron down the drain and just either SuperCruise and/or Just run a tonne of Test.

Test only is a great cycle, but a lot of guys cant run a huge amount of Test without nasty sides.

There is a situation for every compound, Mast is great and does a great job especially with Nandrolone.

Not too sure what you're trying to say TBH

100% Bro.

 

[B Ware]

Dayum, some people are just lucky i guess, my blood would be tar..... Test alone on trt and my blood thickens.... Guess i wont get to try the nectar....

I’m the same way. I’m on doc trt. Doc actually signed a form where I can donate as often as every two weeks. I don’t of course but do donate every 1.5-2 months. Well covid had me slacking but I’m back donating often again. Just donated 5 weeks ago and will do so again in a few weeks after I do mid cycle labs. Just my trt alone puts my hemo border line high. Also taking IP-6 recommended by Dante as it’s an iron chelator.

 

[Avies48]

I’m the same way. I’m on doc trt. Doc actually signed a form where I can donate as often as every two weeks. I don’t of course but do donate every 1.5-2 months. Well covid had me slacking but I’m back donating often again. Just donated 5 weeks ago and will do so again in a few weeks after I do mid cycle labs. Just my trt alone puts my hemo border line high. Also taking IP-6 recommended by Dante as it’s an iron chelator.

Yeah i was on mandatory phlems every damn week, and it still staid above 51 hematocrit, hemo was always like 16-17.5 and doc didnt like it, i finally told him to f off as repeated phlems has a negatory effect and u eventually get rebound iron and thickness.... maybe if i started more cardio? Dunno? I will have to go back soon, and re start trt asap as the downside has not been good at all...

Eventually want to jump into primo, gh and prolly just proviron, as im not sure my body could handle mast also haha