You get much from 400mg's deca, besides joint relief?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Meso Community Fall/Winter '16 Bulk
- Thread starter Wunderpus
- Start date
Monster cycle for a monster big boy
I'd like to hit 260# this cycle.... We SHALL see, we shall see.
Tell you the truth, i dont know. Its as high as Ive ever gone and I had good results last time. I figured if its not broke, dont fix it.
CAswole
New Member
Starting Aug 8th.
900mg Sustanon
900mg Deca
150mg Anadrol for 30 days
Humulin-R 10iu pre workout ; 5iu post workout
GHRP-6 throughout for appetite
Hexarelin 3xs a day for three weeks then switch to ipamorelin 3xs a day three weeks and alternate back and forth along with cjc 1295
Heavy powerlifting type routine base with body building assistance work.
Also adex 1mg eod and cialis daily ;-)
900mg Sustanon
900mg Deca
150mg Anadrol for 30 days
Humulin-R 10iu pre workout ; 5iu post workout
GHRP-6 throughout for appetite
Hexarelin 3xs a day for three weeks then switch to ipamorelin 3xs a day three weeks and alternate back and forth along with cjc 1295
Heavy powerlifting type routine base with body building assistance work.
Also adex 1mg eod and cialis daily ;-)
At about 220 right now.
Bradly
Member
so tempted to get in on this thread. officially started cruising this week. Im sitting on a gang of test p,npp and tren for my next blast. I got some dbol to play with too.
right now just enjoying not feeling like a pin cushion.
right now just enjoying not feeling like a pin cushion.
weighted chinup
Member
I'm in.
Drugs:
Started Monday
Test E 250mg / week
NPP 150mg EOD
Diet will be pretty generic stuff, red meat being a staple with plenty of carbs, fats freely mostly indirect from red meat or whatever else I eat. I like donuts and orange juice as well. Good shit.
I'm taking a break from my usual training. I've been doing my own programming for so long, at this point in my lifting career I want to deviate for the first time ever. Not due to lack of progress, simply to keep myself fresh mentally and so I can be more motivated to train the same movements when I return to them. Don't underestimate the mental component - I've literally been training the same movements since I started training without taking a break from them ever, unless I dropped a lift in place of something, which I've only done a few times lol.
I'll be returning to my program after this blast.
I will be doing JM's Annihilation Wave as well this blast. It's a lot of fun so far!
Drugs:
Started Monday
Test E 250mg / week
NPP 150mg EOD
Diet will be pretty generic stuff, red meat being a staple with plenty of carbs, fats freely mostly indirect from red meat or whatever else I eat. I like donuts and orange juice as well. Good shit.
I'm taking a break from my usual training. I've been doing my own programming for so long, at this point in my lifting career I want to deviate for the first time ever. Not due to lack of progress, simply to keep myself fresh mentally and so I can be more motivated to train the same movements when I return to them. Don't underestimate the mental component - I've literally been training the same movements since I started training without taking a break from them ever, unless I dropped a lift in place of something, which I've only done a few times lol.
I'll be returning to my program after this blast.
I will be doing JM's Annihilation Wave as well this blast. It's a lot of fun so far!
Alright, I'll play 
Mid blast as we speak
1500mg test c
800mg tren e
100mg tren a EOD (1st 6 weeks)
100mg anadrol workout days (1st 6 weeks)
100mg winny (last 5 weeks)
The anadrol was unbelievable during the first 6 weeks. Been off about a week now. Just riding on the long esters now. This is my first BIG cycle I would say (this many compounds and over a gram of test). Seeing for myself if more is better.
Take adex once in a great while. Don't need it most of the time. Taking walgreens generic prilosec for the tren induced heartburn. Got a new BP machine to keep track of the vitals. I was shocked how bad anadrol and tren is for the blood pressure! Seriously dangerous stuff! Feel better now that the anadrol and tren A is outta my system.
Eating cleaner this time than I have in past bulks and for the first time I don't mind it. Which makes it easy
GOALS:
405X5 3sets front squat
405 incline barbell ( I want 5 reps. But gotta get 1 first )
315x5 3 sets bent barbell row
Each cycle has a method to my madness. I like to spend precious cycling time bulking and cut on a cruise. I'm getting quite close to being a lean mother fucking 260. I bulk to just shy of 285. Been cruising at 350mg test c a week. Which helps maintain how much muscle I keep since I'm past my genetic potential
Just 6000 cals a day. Which is a little on the light end for me. Keeping dairy minimal this go round. Save it for around bed time. I take 1000mg vitamin c a day and one shake post workout with Metamucil in it. My biggest issue? Getting adequate fiber. Literally a pain in the ass
Mid blast as we speak
1500mg test c
800mg tren e
100mg tren a EOD (1st 6 weeks)
100mg anadrol workout days (1st 6 weeks)
100mg winny (last 5 weeks)
The anadrol was unbelievable during the first 6 weeks. Been off about a week now. Just riding on the long esters now. This is my first BIG cycle I would say (this many compounds and over a gram of test). Seeing for myself if more is better.
Take adex once in a great while. Don't need it most of the time. Taking walgreens generic prilosec for the tren induced heartburn. Got a new BP machine to keep track of the vitals. I was shocked how bad anadrol and tren is for the blood pressure! Seriously dangerous stuff! Feel better now that the anadrol and tren A is outta my system.
Eating cleaner this time than I have in past bulks and for the first time I don't mind it. Which makes it easy
GOALS:
405X5 3sets front squat
405 incline barbell ( I want 5 reps. But gotta get 1 first
)315x5 3 sets bent barbell row
Each cycle has a method to my madness. I like to spend precious cycling time bulking and cut on a cruise. I'm getting quite close to being a lean mother fucking 260. I bulk to just shy of 285. Been cruising at 350mg test c a week. Which helps maintain how much muscle I keep since I'm past my genetic potential
Just 6000 cals a day. Which is a little on the light end for me. Keeping dairy minimal this go round. Save it for around bed time. I take 1000mg vitamin c a day and one shake post workout with Metamucil in it. My biggest issue? Getting adequate fiber. Literally a pain in the ass
That is a kick ass stack and plan to go with it. Just planting a seed...when you go into your next cruise, consider T3/T4 if you wanna drop some BF. I was always hesitant to mess with my thyroid but I did it for the second 4 weeks of my current cut and let me tell ya it's a game changer. I'm off now and both transitions were flawless. If your cruising at 350mg you won't have to worry about losing any muscle mass. Just a thought.Alright, I'll play
Mid blast as we speak
1500mg test c
800mg tren e
100mg tren a EOD (1st 6 weeks)
100mg anadrol workout days (1st 6 weeks)
100mg winny (last 5 weeks)
The anadrol was unbelievable during the first 6 weeks. Been off about a week now. Just riding on the long esters now. This is my first BIG cycle I would say (this many compounds and over a gram of test). Seeing for myself if more is better.
Take adex once in a great while. Don't need it most of the time. Taking walgreens generic prilosec for the tren induced heartburn. Got a new BP machine to keep track of the vitals. I was shocked how bad anadrol and tren is for the blood pressure! Seriously dangerous stuff! Feel better now that the anadrol and tren A is outta my system.
Eating cleaner this time than I have in past bulks and for the first time I don't mind it. Which makes it easy
GOALS:
405X5 3sets front squat
405 incline barbell ( I want 5 reps. But gotta get 1 first
315x5 3 sets bent barbell row
Each cycle has a method to my madness. I like to spend precious cycling time bulking and cut on a cruise. I'm getting quite close to being a lean mother fucking 260. I bulk to just shy of 285. Been cruising at 350mg test c a week. Which helps maintain how much muscle I keep since I'm past my genetic potential
Just 6000 cals a day. Which is a little on the light end for me. Keeping dairy minimal this go round. Save it for around bed time. I take 1000mg vitamin c a day and one shake post workout with Metamucil in it. My biggest issue? Getting adequate fiber. Literally a pain in the ass
I honestly don't know much about it
GearGodess
Member
(don't waste your money on T4 - your body will convert it to T3 and not significant amount to help with anything not even fat burning)
Running T3 with Tren helps a lot as tren is known to reduce your natural T3 so supplementing with it has many benefits and highly recommended.
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I have some cool ideas for your program that would keep things fresh.
Still adheres to all the principles and frequency but there are quite a few ways to shake it up without having to scratch it for some thing different entirely.
Ideas like:
Made pairs of exercises and perform them with preexhaustion
Example: take away the daily inclines and flats and add say for day
A)dumbbell flyes superset with a pressing movement
Nautilus pullovers superset with a row
B)cable flyes superset with hammer strength inclines
Straight arm pulldowns superset with nautilus rows
Could form any concoction using these supersets with our already awesome program!
@gr8whitetrukker getting enough fiber is a SOB when eating at that type of volume
LC turned me on to an herbal supplement called slippery elm
Well see how it goes...
Had to go to a vitamin shoppe for it
50 percent less sugar cranberries...10 g of fiber for a 1/4 cup. But only that kind, the regular only has 2 g. Its ocean spray
Thats what Ive been using lately. Dried fruits w/ lil added sugar. Everythings been flowing right.
weighted chinup
Member
This would be the next step. An 'advanced' program if you will. I think a lot of guys will see benefits even at that stage if they plan their training out for an entire year and have mesocycles where training is based around getting stronger like the routine I have out and the other mesocycle has the lifter doing modalities like the ones you mention. They are effective if the goal is just size, it would be stubborn to ignore that. The trick is doing a maintenance amount of work for all qualities so nothing regresses too much or goes backwards while focusing on that kind of training.
If nothing else, its fun to do that kind of stuff for a while. The mental component is huge, and staying fresh will absolutely help progress.
The principles of high frequency dual factor training can be applied to just about anything really, you can have a high frequency program that makes use of methods like super-sets or pre-exhaustion, rest pause, etc. I think it would be most suited for advanced guys or those who have already built the majority of their strength and are at a point where getting stronger is occurring at a snails pace, or guys just looking to try something different for a while. Both reasons can prove to be beneficial to a lifters progress really.
Change is good but not as much as most people swap in and out programs. I don't buy in to this certain level you gotta reach to start adding in more advanced techniques. It's just another way of adding stress to the muscle. And bring it out of its comfort zone. Progressive resistance is key but it's not the only factor. I won't call it muscle confusion but this is a reality. Also I don't think maintenance work would be required. All the same working sets are there just by way of supersets, pre exhaustion sets, 21's, heavy negatives, rest pause to name a few. Because your incorporating supersets you wouldn't by nature have as many sets per week as you do now but it would be extremely effective at breaking plateaus.
