Johnny442
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KingAlfred
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You know, I personally never liked AA/NA because It's like, if you've quit drinking or drugs then get on with your life! Don't keep talking about it you are not a drug addict anymore. That's how you need to think. You might slip up but just move on. I know it's the only thing that works for some people and it has helped a LOT of people but for those who believe in the all powerful God, you should know He has the power to make you not an addict, it doesn't have to be an incurable disease. I was an alcoholic in my 20's by any definition. In my worst times I was the worst. I don't count how long I've been sober It's been years, I just rarely feel like drinking now. I am not an alcoholic at all I rarely drink and If I do once every couple months or so after a few beers I just don't want any more. The great part is when I do drink now, I can drink the good stuff! $12 for a 6 pack don't seem like a lot when you only get one once every couple months. I think a big part is I don't suffer from depression and anxiety any more which probably was the whole cause of the drinking. Plus my 5 day a week workout regime takes up a lot of free time. AA is just so weird to me. A weird vibe, people say weird stuff, idk. I just think, move on with your life.
cflow69
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@KingAlfred ..Im with u on that one ..ive had maybe 4 slip ups in the last 6 years ...Im to busy to be getting messed up all the time ..I work as a carpenter by day and train people at night and have 2 kids and a wife to please ..Now if i plan to party its becauae i feel i have earned it not because i need it .After that party i move on once again .doesnt bother me at all anymore .
viking23
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The biggest thing for recovering addicts is to fill their free time. Free time allows the mind to wonder, which can be used for good or bad. You can create ideas, but typically you just feel "bored." Well when someone is bored they fit something in to take up that space.
Using a drug/drink will land you back in a similar boat on the same shitty River. I believe the best thing for addicts is to start working on bettering themselves, or picking up a hobby, to focusing on a talent, etc. You see once you start to rebuild yourself and you regain self worth through YOUR own EYES will you be more likely to avoid slips because you now created something that you shouldn't risk losing.
Writing is a great tool also! Write some bad memories that you felt when you were on, as well as good memories that you couldn't have felt or created unless you were sober. Like maybe you got married, or a great job off the drugs, yet on the drugs you could barely scrape by.
The point is everytime youget that urge or little doubt you look at that list and ask yourself which time was better?
Using a drug/drink will land you back in a similar boat on the same shitty River. I believe the best thing for addicts is to start working on bettering themselves, or picking up a hobby, to focusing on a talent, etc. You see once you start to rebuild yourself and you regain self worth through YOUR own EYES will you be more likely to avoid slips because you now created something that you shouldn't risk losing.
Writing is a great tool also! Write some bad memories that you felt when you were on, as well as good memories that you couldn't have felt or created unless you were sober. Like maybe you got married, or a great job off the drugs, yet on the drugs you could barely scrape by.
The point is everytime youget that urge or little doubt you look at that list and ask yourself which time was better?
viking23
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Although I've had two accidents this year that both involved medical intervention. And after the second one a trigger has flipped. So please be safe brother's when it comes to treatments. By all means if you need them great, but if not then move on. Mad respect to all my homies still lurking meso, hope to catch up with you all soon!
I'm with you
Biggest thing for me....yes.
I don't have much to offer in terms of drug addiction recovery. I did want to post this for some reason. Pathetic imo. Feeding off low hanging fruit is for the weak. Not saying anything about an addicts personal choices but to use someone's issues as a way to commit fraud is fucking pathetic.
Patient brokering: a festering wound for recovery community
Patient brokering: a festering wound for recovery community
3 yrs and a few months ago, I ended a long love affair with heroin.
1 yr to the day was my last drop of alcohol.
I dont do meetings. People ask me how. I cant say for sure. Even after several runs down state, rehabs; even after completing 15 months in the toughest TC in my state, i had a needle in my arm within 4 days.
However, my last arrest was different. Kicking in county, yet again and facing another parole violation, ENOUGH WAS ENOUGH. This was at a time, when the state was changing guidelines on opiate related charges, etc. I was resentenced to another 3 years. I took that opportunity and made a change.
Living this lifestyle coupled with working my goddam ass off everyday has given me the focus and direction i need to stay alive. The fact that i am alive is truly a miracle.
My parole was completed/terminated a few weeks ago also.
1 yr to the day was my last drop of alcohol.
I dont do meetings. People ask me how. I cant say for sure. Even after several runs down state, rehabs; even after completing 15 months in the toughest TC in my state, i had a needle in my arm within 4 days.
However, my last arrest was different. Kicking in county, yet again and facing another parole violation, ENOUGH WAS ENOUGH. This was at a time, when the state was changing guidelines on opiate related charges, etc. I was resentenced to another 3 years. I took that opportunity and made a change.
Living this lifestyle coupled with working my goddam ass off everyday has given me the focus and direction i need to stay alive. The fact that i am alive is truly a miracle.
My parole was completed/terminated a few weeks ago also.
valuum
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I had some time and recently got 2 months again. I'm with you too, I was using in prison, in violator camp, as soon as I would get out, etc. Congrats on getting off parole! I was sentenced to 5 years of probo at age 18, made it 4/5, went to prison, completed parole, then caught a new case and got another 5 on felony paper, I'm about 1 year in now.
Resentencing sucks! That's what sent me to the joint. I did 3 years over a fuckin' dirty!
When you say tc you mean treatment center right? Like state run, DOC run, or real rehab? Michigan has one called "teen challenge" that is 18 months, super religious, retarded hard. I've done real rehabs and parole violator programs.
Talking about drinking flint water, I was shooting up with that shit lmao
valuum
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I've actually got a lot of input on this. I've done the gauntlet or rehabs and most people that work in recovery are such great people, like just an incredibly high percentage. The problem comes from the fact rehab is set up SO fucking scammy that the small percentage of bad people that work the trade can cause absolute havoc.
There is NO proof that fancy rehab is anymore helpful than jail, AA/NA, or quitting on your own. They can pad their statistics all they want, a lot of it comes from who they're treating in the first place, rich people who had enough means to never really get that addicted or face true consequences. If you took true homeless junkies off the street that fancy acupuncture rehab bullshit doesn't work.
Then they charge insurance absolutely ridiculous rates, coupled with the fact that chronic relapse and failure is an accepted fact in recovery and you get all these kids on their parents insurance going into rehab multiple times a year for tens of thousands of insurance $$$ a piece.
It just creates a situation that begs to be taken advantage of.
Definitely a tough road. TC here stands for Therapeutic Community 1. DOC runs a few and outsources parolees to other ones as well as overcrowding is a severe issue. Its like a boot camp for junkies is the only way i can describe it. I learned alot from it and was confident going through but towards the end of it, I was preppin my next run. Good luck man
valuum
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Sounds like something they have around me, actually also called TC, but it stands for TriCap.
It's "treatment" but its basically jail without locks. Everyone there is DOC, you can smoke and wear your own clothes. The door isn't locked and you can leave at any time, but you're gonna have a warrant.
It's "treatment" but its basically jail without locks. Everyone there is DOC, you can smoke and wear your own clothes. The door isn't locked and you can leave at any time, but you're gonna have a warrant.
All good? Any luck getting a DL Corona tattoo?
Yea all good bro. Tired of this stagnation. Can only watch so much netflix and organize the garbage and basement so many times lol. And no luck but have a a small covid piece I decided on...girl with mask on, crying biomechanical corona tears as shes bout to pull the trigger under her chin. Thinking maybe put the words "when will this end" coming out like a thought bubble...not 100 on that yet tho
I'd get it haha. I'm pretty fucking bored too. Pornhub has lost its luster...
Lauderdaleboy
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For what this is worth, microdosing shrooms helped me get of subs. It wasn't easy but it wasn't as bad as previous attempts.
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