MESO "Specialized" Testing Group Fund

[readalot]

EQ(200mg)/MastE(100mg)/TrenE(50mg)?
To turn orange with 50mg..that's one really dark tren lol

Labeled 150 mast e / 150 tren e.

I think you are right.

 

[readalot]

@kain was kind enough to get the raw data report (extra 20 bucks after the fact) for the HPLC test on the TRA raw used for our project.

@kain is eating the additional 20 USD charge for the HPLC raw data. Thanks for the additional contribution to this project.

 

[readalot]

Search up cloudy tren a

There were raws with alleged tren base in them.

Thanks for clarifying. The raws Kain used are just TRA from what we can measure using HPLC and GCMS. Wildly pure.

 

[readalot]

@Nixonnow99 has been holding on to this vial in case we wanted to test it. Very dark if we wanted to see if there are tren degradation compounds present. Any interest in sending it in as a positive control for very dark color?

https://steroidsourcetalk.cc/index.php?threads/moving-and-found-some-treasure-%F0%9F%A4%A3.26469/post-240975

 

[TallandSmall]

@Nixonnow99 has been holding on to this vial in case we wanted to test it. Very dark if we wanted to see if there are tren degradation compounds present. Any interest in sending it in as a positive control for very dark color?

https://steroidsourcetalk.cc/index.php?threads/moving-and-found-some-treasure-%F0%9F%A4%A3.26469/post-240975

I’m interested in uncovering what the difference is.

 

[readalot]

I’m interested in uncovering what the difference is.

Jano has also offered to better mix the stuff with air that's already over there. See if more entrained O2 makes a difference. Better simulates brewing setup.

Thanks for your vote.

 

[Stubb]

@Nixonnow99 has been holding on to this vial in case we wanted to test it. Very dark if we wanted to see if there are tren degradation compounds present. Any interest in sending it in as a positive control for very dark color?

https://steroidsourcetalk.cc/index.php?threads/moving-and-found-some-treasure-%F0%9F%A4%A3.26469/post-240975

Whilst it is a very dark colour, could the testing not be skewed by degradation of the tren (not related to the colour change perhaps) over the decade? I still think the results would be very interesting though.

 

[readalot]

Whilst it is a very dark colour, could the testing not be skewed by degradation of the tren (not related to the colour change perhaps) over the decade? I still think the results would be very interesting though.

Agreed. The age of the vial plus guaranteed rancidity of the GSO does make the vial a special case that wouldn't be representative of what most folks are injecting. Wanted to throw out the option to test it before it was thrown away.

 

[readalot]

Who wants a deeper dive on the GCMS TIC ratios?

How to tell we lost carrier oil mass.

Lol.

 

[TallandSmall]

plus guaranteed rancidity of the GSO

Good point. A “fresh” dark Tren makes more sense.

 

[readalot]

Good point. A “fresh” dark Tren makes more sense.

It's interesting though. Rancid guarantees high peroxide value. Oxidizing equivalents in the oil.

What makes a fresh tren dark? Just the raw? Heat plus O2?

We see above it aint just heat when the raw is pristine and oil is peroxide free.

So much to decouple here.

 

[Stubb]

It's interesting though. Rancid guarantees high peroxide value. Oxidizing equivalents in the oil.

What makes a fresh tren dark? Just the raw? Heat plus O2?

We see above it aint just heat when the raw is pristine and oil is peroxide free.

So much to decouple here.

How about testing some raws directly with hydrogen peroxide? Too harsh maybe?

 

[readalot]

How about testing some raws directly with hydrogen peroxide? Too harsh maybe?

Fun idea. Pitch it!!

We probably will only get support for conditions that simulate brewing conditions. I am thinking beaker with brew at temp and mag stirrer. Waiting to see what results Jano comes back with.

 

[Stubb]

Fun idea. Pitch it!!

We probably will only get support for conditions that simulate brewing conditions. I am thinking beaker with brew at temp and mag stirrer. Waiting to see what results Jano comes back with.

Very true. Theres no point testing the residue of chasing the dragon with tren when thats not how most people take it. Most.

 

[Photon]

I think whats needed is a different test.
Not GCMS.

It is unlikely we will have another opportunity like this where we have a combination of (1) funding and (2) 3 vials of different color.

The go to for everything we have now is GCMS, but GCMS..doesn't show alot of stuff..

 

[readalot]

Most

You shotgun your tren with a h2o2 chaser. Tell more more!!

 

[Stubb]

You shotgun your tren with a h2o2 chaser. Tell more more!!

Its how I combat tren cough. Fight fire with fire.

 

[readalot]

 

[readalot]

@Nixonnow99 has been holding on to this vial in case we wanted to test it. Very dark if we wanted to see if there are tren degradation compounds present. Any interest in sending it in as a positive control for very dark color?

https://steroidsourcetalk.cc/index.php?threads/moving-and-found-some-treasure-%F0%9F%A4%A3.26469/post-240975

Ok, I realize I did not put this up for a vote clearly.

Almost 10 year old vial of Tren E in GSO. Oil should be not G2G. Sitting in a drawer at room temp for 10 years.

Please vote if we should send off for HPLC plus GCMS testing.

Cost: 240 USD + 5 USD for HPLC raw data so we get the LC chromatogram traces. Plus shipping plus whatever time @Nixonnow99 wants to charge to get it packaged and sent if he is willing.

It is plenty dark. Anything in there?

Please cast your vote:

Like: yes I will support with under 20 bucks

Love: yes I will support with over 20 bucks

Funny: are you joking?

Wow: I support but won't donate

Sad: this whole effort hurts my soul

Dislike: no don't send to jano

Angry: give up readalot you waste of time

Let's let @Nixonnow99 know whether to toss the vial or give it a good final home for science.

Thank you!

P.S. those that already donated should vote too. There is still 400 USD leftover in the fund. Make your vote heard.

 

[readalot]

Ok, I realize I did not put this up for a vote clearly.

Almost 10 year old vial of Tren E in GSO. Oil should be not G2G. Sitting in a drawer at room temp for 10 years.

Please vote if we should send off for HPLC plus GCMS testing.

Cost: 240 USD + 5 USD for HPLC raw data so we get the LC chromatogram traces. Plus shipping plus whatever time @Nixonnow99 wants to charge to get it packaged and sent if he is willing.

It is plenty dark. Anything in there?

Please cast your vote:

Like: yes I will support with under 20 bucks

Love: yes I will support with over 20 bucks

Funny: are you joking?

Wow: I support but won't donate

Sad: this whole effort hurts my soul

Dislike: no don't send to jano

Angry: give up readalot you waste of time

Let's let @Nixonnow99 know whether to toss the vial or give it a good final home for science.

Thank you!

P.S. those that already donated should vote too. There is still 400 USD leftover in the fund. Make your vote heard.

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Ok we got our first vote of "hell no don't waste our time and money".

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we did the original test on fresh oil from same batch to avoid false positives.

after 10 years with gso polyunsatured fats we dont even have much tren content left behind to compare significant side effects without being sure its from the tren and not the rancid oil.

its much better to stress test new oil to make sure its the tren.

this will be a complete waste of money and almost completely be a failure showing false negatives/positives. we will surely get useless peaks.


the same sample vials from kains batch is almost like hgh ich stability studies.

we are gonna catch any differences from baseline and reveal all trenbolones weakpoints the way we have done it now. atleast it will tell us wether it be the steroid ring or ester bond thats significantly affected by color at worst. at best we will get good results of the oxidiationzion itself and get a huge breakthrough in your study you have made.

dont get too excited and go around test every dark tren vial you find, this test you've done already is super impressive, you're drawing attention from every corner of gymbros hearts

Thanks very much for dinfar hitting me up and providing the feedback.

Thank you dinfar1337.