Micro dosing Tren?

[EamonDeValera]

Don’t re-invent the wheel.

There is a reason people use higher doses.

They don’t just take 500mg of Trenbolone a week for the fun of it.

If you “micro-dosed” you’d probably just get all the side effects, shut down your endocrine system and receive minimal gains compared to if you just increased the dosage.

It’s one foot out the door mentality.

Just do what everyone else does and start with 350mg/pw

 

[Type-IIx]

Don’t re-invent the wheel.

There is a reason people use higher doses.

They don’t just take 500mg of Trenbolone a week for the fun of it.

If you “micro-dosed” you’d probably just get all the side effects, shut down your endocrine system and receive minimal gains compared to if you just increased the dosage.

It’s one foot out the door mentality.

Just do what everyone else does and start with 350mg/pw

"300mg trenbolone is VERY high dose because... reasons X, Y, ... & 100mg trenbolone is not micro-dosing because..."

"Bros have been doing this for years" (Bandwagon Fallacy), "more is better" (no consideration for actual diminishing returns and the dose-dependent increase in severity of side effects), and going below 350mg weekly (not micro-dosing; this is what is called a non-sequitur) will probably suppress HPG axis functioning without sufficient muscle mass increases (False Dilemma Fallacy)."

Bravo, genius. Bravo.

 

[MrGTO]

Don’t re-invent the wheel.

There is a reason people use higher doses.

They don’t just take 500mg of Trenbolone a week for the fun of it.

If you “micro-dosed” you’d probably just get all the side effects, shut down your endocrine system and receive minimal gains compared to if you just increased the dosage.

It’s one foot out the door mentality.

Just do what everyone else does and start with 350mg/pw

Have you ever used Tren?

 

[EamonDeValera]

Never

Have you ever used Tren?

 

[EamonDeValera]

I’ve no idea what you just said.

My reading isn’t the best, sorry mate.

 

[Type-IIx]

I’ve no idea what you just said.

My reading isn’t the best, sorry mate.

You're being thick. Your reading is fine, it's your reasoning that's lacking.

Put simply: a mistake repeated 1,000,000 times doesn't make it correct.

For evidence of these commonplace high tren doses perhaps being a bit problematic: see all the horror stories of Tren (e.g., the thread/article by Mair Underwood titled something along the lines of "Users say bad things about Trenbolone...")

As someone who has actually ran 350mg tren for his first tren cycle, I will tell you, this bro-science is worth a rethink.

 

[EamonDeValera]

You're being thick. Your reading is fine, it's your reasoning that's lacking.

Put simply: a mistake repeated 1,000,000 times doesn't make it correct.

For evidence of these commonplace high tren doses perhaps being a bit problematic: see all the horror stories of Tren (e.g., the thread/article by Mair Underwood titled something along the lines of "Users say bad things about Trenbolone...")

As someone who has actually ran 350mg tren for his first tren cycle, I will tell you, this bro-science is worth a rethink.

Not sure if agree with that.

I’ve heard multiple times 350mg is the recommended dosage

I’ve never tried it and I’ve no interest for now, so I’m not really entitled to make up other’s decisions.

Do what you want. Take 1000mg if it floats your boat

 

[Juicy AF]

Just do what everyone else does and start with 350mg/pw

Weren’t you just asking 100 very basic questions in another thread just this week?

But here you are recommending people just start with 350 mg/wk Tren? Don’t post shit like that, it’s irresponsible if you don’t know WTF you’re talking about.

 

[EamonDeValera]

I learn fast.

Also I ain’t recommending anything.

It’s basic guidelines I’ve seen from about 10 different sources.

I’m just being honest.

 

[TheRealJhon]

Not sure if agree with that.

I’ve heard multiple times 350mg is the recommended dosage

I’ve never tried it and I’ve no interest for now, so I’m not really entitled to make up other’s decisions.

Do what you want. Take 1000mg if it floats your boat

Not to nitpick but the thread is (or was originally) about micro dosing. 350 mg/week seems to be a bit high to be considered micro.

 

[Maktub]

Hows your lipids guys after a small run?
Last time did 200 x week
50 MG EOD schedule.
Really fuck up my lipids..
Now im back to normal .
No more tren for me .

 

[hometeam]

The sweating due to tren is IMO not likely due to increased RMR/REE, as would be implicit given your proposed mechanism. I say this because of the absence of any evidence (at least that I've seen, I think I would have seen it though) that tren increases RMR/REE.

Tren sweats are very real: apparently not a rapid nongenomic effect, but perhaps you are correct that this hypothetical effect is mediated by the AR (i.e., possibly tren IS so potent that your hypothesis is true, that there is increased REE due to increased metabolic processes in building muscle additive to the commitment of precursor cells to a non-adipogenic lineage; I can certainly accept this, but it's theoretical as I have not seen any published data to suggest that tren actually increases RMR/REE).

Interestingly, at 200mg tren I get the night sweats but at 50-75 I don't. I mean now and then I wake up a little sweaty, but not like at 200mg where I'd have to change shirts and sheets.

I knew someone who had a hysterectomy, went on HRT because her ovaries are gone, and she had horrible night sweats too for awhile with the midnight shirt and sheets changing. I guess it can happen with menopause too. So I wonder if part of this is due to tren's ability to shut you down so hard.

But also testosterone and other anabolic hormones have been shown to increase metabolic rate. And corticoid steroids decrease it. Etiocholanolone, a metabolite of testosterone, will actually cause a fever from the release of interleukin-1 and thermogenesis. Women getting the progesterone birth control shot can get a mild noninfectious fever too. 7-keto-dhea is being marketed as a fat burner.

I found this article on Steroids and Thermogenesis" which was kind of interesting:

https://www.biomed.cas.cz/physiolres/pdf/55/55_123.pdf

 

[phenominal34]

Not sure if agree with that.

I’ve heard multiple times 350mg is the recommended dosage

I’ve never tried it and I’ve no interest for now, so I’m not really entitled to make up other’s decisions.

Do what you want. Take 1000mg if it floats your boat

Another clown giving advice on something that he’s never done !!

 

[RomanMVP]

"There's a difference between recognizing the effects of something (any dipshit, even you, is capable of this) and fully understanding the reasons for it. Most recognize tren's potent recomping effects (increasing fat-free mass and concomitantly reducing adipose tissue stores). Instead of rolling your eyes at me, you could learn"
Oh sure, asshole, you're one of those elite Aryan gods with a thin skin. Take a Midol, punk and get over yourself. You sound like a woman, very sensitive. Gee, I'm sorry I set off your feminine alarm. Do you also get upset at male sexual advances? You could take it to a judge.

 

[MrGTO]

I learn fast.

Also I ain’t recommending anything.

It’s basic guidelines I’ve seen from about 10 different sources.

I’m just being honest.

Unless you have ran it, my advice would be keep your mouth shut with any advice.

 

[EamonDeValera]

"There's a difference between recognizing the effects of something (any dipshit, even you, is capable of this) and fully understanding the reasons for it. Most recognize tren's potent recomping effects (increasing fat-free mass and concomitantly reducing adipose tissue stores). Instead of rolling your eyes at me, you could learn"
Oh sure, asshole, you're one of those elite Aryan gods with a thin skin. Take a Midol, punk and get over yourself. You sound like a woman, very sensitive. Gee, I'm sorry I set off your feminine alarm. Do you also get upset at male sexual advances? You could take it to a judge.

Jesus fucking Christ my brain after reading that....

 

[RomanMVP]

Jesus fucking Christ my brain after reading that....

Nah, you'll be ok. Just tell yourself, "it's only a movie.....it's only a movie......it's only a movie."

 

[TheRealJhon]

Jesus fucking Christ my brain after reading that....

Eamon, nice name…so you’re the 3rd president of Ireland? Nice.

Seriously though, do you use any gear at all or are you just here as a disrupter?

 

[Type-IIx]

Interestingly, at 200mg tren I get the night sweats but at 50-75 I don't. I mean now and then I wake up a little sweaty, but not like at 200mg where I'd have to change shirts and sheets.

I knew someone who had a hysterectomy, went on HRT because her ovaries are gone, and she had horrible night sweats too for awhile with the midnight shirt and sheets changing. I guess it can happen with menopause too. So I wonder if part of this is due to tren's ability to shut you down so hard.

But also testosterone and other anabolic hormones have been shown to increase metabolic rate. And corticoid steroids decrease it. Etiocholanolone, a metabolite of testosterone, will actually cause a fever from the release of interleukin-1 and thermogenesis. Women getting the progesterone birth control shot can get a mild noninfectious fever too. 7-keto-dhea is being marketed as a fat burner.

I found this article on Steroids and Thermogenesis" which was kind of interesting:

https://www.biomed.cas.cz/physiolres/pdf/55/55_123.pdf

Hah you must think I am a real moron, conflating steroids with androgens here. Sure, thyroid hormone boosts thermogenesis, OK, estrogens and progesterone may have a minor role in thermoregulation. There's absolutely zero human evidence that androgens stimulate thermogenesis.

 

[hometeam]

Hah you must think I am a real moron, conflating steroids with androgens here. Sure, thyroid hormone boosts thermogenesis, OK, estrogens and progesterone may have a minor role in thermoregulation. There's absolutely zero human evidence that androgens stimulate thermogenesis.

You kidding?